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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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Kepler said:
If I get rid of cable how will I keep my internet?, says this Fios customer.

I'm not even kidding, I am that uneducated.
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You just pay for the internet. You lose the bundled price but you save on not paying for the cable tv part. You should be able to get reasonable internet in most metro areas for between $60-$100/month, possibly cheaper if you bundle a phone with it (which I would assume you would if you're verizon customers). I pay $75/month plus taxes and fees for 500 mb internet service with no bundling. It'd be about $60/month for 100 mb speeds.

If you're going to be streaming video regularly, especially if you and the dr. mrs. do so simultaneously, you'll want a speed of 100 mb minimum.
 
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JF_Gophers said:
Get rid of cable. Unless there is something you watch that is nowhere else. Or you are getting the internet bundled with it for a discount still.

Even if you pay $100 just for internet. Its only another $50 and you can have 10 different streaming services.
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We’ve thought of it but my wife doesn’t think it would move the needle enough and I tend to agree. I do like cable and there’s no good way to get the local sports teams by streaming only.
 
The MLS Season Pass is absolutely worth it on picture quality alone. 1080p with a high bit rate, it absolutely destroys anything ESPN or Fox ever did. Plus there’s a bunch of other content available as well. The most notable being the Redzone style whip around show MLS 360.

That said, Apple does offer at least one game a week for free and there’s supposed others available if you’re an AppleTV+ subscriber.

AFAIK all the games are free this weekend if you want to check them out but it’s absolutely worth the $79 IMO.
 
As someone without an MLS team I probably won't be subscribing, but checking out the free weekend I gotta say this is a very clean graphics package and the presentation is great. For now I'll still be sticking with the Premier League mornings and late night Liga MX.

This is an innovative choice by MLS, but I wonder what it'll do for growth of the league. They're now just showing one a game a week outside of Apple. This certainly isn't something new in the world, as stuff like F1 is subscriber only in some European countries, and ESPN is holding basically every other soccer league in the world behind the ESPN+ paywall, but if there's one thing that all of America gripes about it's paywalls for sports content. On the other hand, with Bally going into bankruptcy and now AT&T wanting out, MLS may just be ahead of the game here on the non-NFL leagues.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
As someone without an MLS team I probably won't be subscribing, but checking out the free weekend I gotta say this is a very clean graphics package and the presentation is great. For now I'll still be sticking with the Premier League mornings and late night Liga MX.

This is an innovative choice by MLS, but I wonder what it'll do for growth of the league. They're now just showing one a game a week outside of Apple. This certainly isn't something new in the world, as stuff like F1 is subscriber only in some European countries, and ESPN is holding basically every other soccer league in the world behind the ESPN+ paywall, but if there's one thing that all of America gripes about it's paywalls for sports content. On the other hand, with Bally going into bankruptcy and now AT&T wanting out, MLS may just be ahead of the game here on the non-NFL leagues.
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I'm not worried about growth because Apple has done more promoting the league in a week than ESPN or Fox did for 25+ years.
 
unofan said:
You just pay for the internet. You lose the bundled price but you save on not paying for the cable tv part. You should be able to get reasonable internet in most metro areas for between $60-$100/month, possibly cheaper if you bundle a phone with it (which I would assume you would if you're verizon customers). I pay $75/month plus taxes and fees for 500 mb internet service with no bundling. It'd be about $60/month for 100 mb speeds.

If you're going to be streaming video regularly, especially if you and the dr. mrs. do so simultaneously, you'll want a speed of 100 mb minimum.
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Thanks.

Right now I pay, monthly:
  • $210 Verizon Wireless. This is just phone, right, it won't change?
  • $254 Verizon Fios. This is for cable and internet.
  • Whatever I pay for streaming services, and however I pay for them (I'm not sure. How am I paying for Netflix for example?)
So, if I kill cable, I still have internet. I lose everything I use my cable box for, but everything I use my Roku box upstairs for and my smart TV downstairs, I keep. You think I'll save $150/month for that? That sounds... good.

The only thing I use cable for are TCM (all the time), some crap tv I'll bet I can get through streaming services, and sports events that are blocked on internet.

According to the internet:

Can I watch Turner Classic Movies on my computer?

Yes. Subscribers to Sling TV, DIRECTV STREAM, YouTube TV, and Hulu Live TV can watch TCM from a web browser on a PC, laptop or Mac computer.
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OK, so I have Hulu and YouTube on streaming. So presumably that means I can already watch TCM by bringing it up on my computer and then casting to my smart TV? Is that right?

I guess before cord cutting I can just try everything via streaming and see that it all works.

I am highly attracted to the idea of starving the Fox Nazis f my basic cable fee.
 
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Kepler said:
Thanks.

Right now I pay, monthly:
  • $210 Verizon Wireless. This is just phone, right, it won't change?
  • $254 Verizon Fios. This is for cable and internet.
  • Whatever I pay for streaming services, and however I pay for them (I'm not sure. How am I paying for Netflix for example?)
So, if I kill cable, I still have internet. I lose everything I use my cable box for, but everything I use my Roku box upstairs for and my smart TV downstairs, I keep. You think I'll save $150/month for that? That sounds... good.

The only thing I use cable for are TCM (all the time), some crap tv I'll bet I can get through streaming services, and sports events that are blocked on internet.

According to the internet:



OK, so I have Hulu and YouTube on streaming. So presumably that means I can already watch TCM by bringing it up on my computer and then casting to my smart TV? Is that right?

I guess before cord cutting I can just try everything via streaming and see that it all works.

I am highly attracted to the idea of starving the Fox Nazis f my basic cable fee.
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Yeah, the wireless bill would be your cellphones (hopefully that's for more than 2 lines and you have a kid or two on there still. If it's just you and Dr. Mrs., $210 for two lines seems a bit high. Though I know Verizon is able to charge a premium because they honestly do have the biggest and best network in the country).

Fios would be your cable and internet (and landline, if you have one). Without knowing details, I would assume probably $150 of that is cable, easy.

Re: TCM. when they talk about Youtube TV or Hulu Live TV, those are their equivalent of cable subscriptions. So not the $10/month regular Hulu subscription that gets you access to their normal shows and day after broadcast streaming or the free YouTube streaming.

Netflix presumably you pay for separately, though some cable companies will bundle a subscription into their package. So it's possible you're paying indirectly through Verizon. It's easy enough to sign up on your own, though.
 
JF_Gophers said:
TCM is on HBO Max
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I thought that was just their collection, not their station. But yes, that will work, I can do my own programming.

I'm going to have to learn how to do real searches, though. Being mediated in any way by their interfaces makes me want to dynamite their offices. I do not need their short bus "suggestions." I just want full access to the db with some sql command line. I will be fine.
 
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MLS 360 needs some work (why they ads?) but it's got potential, especially after some of the endings today.
 
Couple of news notes:

Seattle beat Colorado last night 4-0. That’s not huge news but I wanted y’all to know.

US U17s lost to Mexico in the final of the CONCACAF U17 so no clean sweep of the CONCACAF titles for the US. Boo.

Jurgen Klinsmann has been hired as the manager of South Korea.
 
Meanwhile, in Canada.

Canada Soccer president Nick Bontis agreed to resign his position Monday, hours after the 13 presidents of Canada’s provincial and territorial soccer federations, a group known collectively as the Presidents’ Forum, sent a letter requesting his resignation.
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I learned a few interesting things about Canada Soccer while I was at Arctic Winter Games. Needless to say, things aren’t that bad with the USSF.
 
Kepler said:
"I acknowledge this moment requires change" is carrying so much weight it should be wearing a truss.
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Well, “I now have a position at CONCACAF so I can skim money from them instead of you suckers” doesn’t carry the same weight.
 
It’s funny seeing a lot of MLS/US Soccer writers heaping praise on MLS and Apple after they spent the last six months predicting doom and gloom. And the twelve months before that working with the TV networks trying to sabotage the league’s efforts at a deal.

Objective soccer journalism in this country died with Grant Wahl.
 
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