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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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Kepler said:
Who was the Serie A power that actually had to start all the way back from like the third tier, because they basically got a death penalty? I thought it was Juve but it might have been AC Milan.
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I presume you are referring to the Calciopoli scandal. Juventus got relegated to Serie B, along with a point deduction in Serie B. AC Milan (along with a few others) were also punished, but I believe Juventus was the only one that got relegated.
 
Kepler said:
Who was the Serie A power that actually had to start all the way back from like the third tier, because they basically got a death penalty? I thought it was Juve but it might have been AC Milan.
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There were a couple of teams that were relegated to Serie B. The punishment should have been more severe but money talks. Their fans are a real piece of work, too. They celebrated the Hillsborough Disaster during a match against Liverpool. I transfer them to Rest of World and place all their players on random teams in China before I start a save in FIFA.

ESPN reports McBride is out after three years as GM of the USMNT. Still no word on Berhalter.
 
ticapnews said:
There were a couple of teams that were relegated to Serie B. The punishment should have been more severe but money talks. Their fans are a real piece of work, too. They celebrated the Hillsborough Disaster during a match against Liverpool. I transfer them to Rest of World and place all their players on random teams in China before I start a save in FIFA.

ESPN reports McBride is out after three years as GM of the USMNT. Still no word on Berhalter.
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Not defending the Juventus fans for the Hillsborough stuff but, Liverpool fans were responsible (though not totally) killing 39 Juventus fans at Heysel so they’re not doing it without cause.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I presume you are referring to the Calciopoli scandal. Juventus got relegated to Serie B, along with a point deduction in Serie B. AC Milan (along with a few others) were also punished, but I believe Juventus was the only one that got relegated.
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Somehow I thought it was much worse. Was it supposed to be but then they weaseled out of it?
 
Kepler said:
Somehow I thought it was much worse. Was it supposed to be but then they weaseled out of it?
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IIRC, a few other teams were also supposed to be relegated, but appealed and got to stay in Serie A. I believe Juventus was originally supposed to be relegated to Serie B AND docked like 30 points (which would have made it difficult for them to stay in Serie B--which may be where you are getting the relegation to third tier), but it was reduced to a relegation to Serie B and docked like 10 points after appeal.

So, yes. The original punishments were more severe, and then those were reduced after appeals.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
IIRC, a few other teams were also supposed to be relegated, but appealed and got to stay in Serie A. I believe Juventus was originally supposed to be relegated to Serie B AND docked like 30 points (which would have made it difficult for them to stay in Serie B--which may be where you are getting the relegation to third tier), but it was reduced to a relegation to Serie B and docked like 10 points after appeal.

So, yes. The original punishments were more severe, and then those were reduced after appeals.
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Not only that, Italy won the World Cup that year with five players for Juventus playing (and three for France).
 
SonofSouthie said:
USA with another match from the(cue Rod Serling monologue)'Relegation Zone'.
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There aren't many options. None of the 3pm games are that attractive to an American audience. LFC-CHE was on already and Cinderella plays later. USA have the City game tomorrow morning.

Who would have thought a week 21 matchup between LFC and Chelsea would be the midtable clash and Arsenal v United would be the top four battle.
 
ticapnews said:
There aren't many options. None of the 3pm games are that attractive to an American audience. LFC-CHE was on already and Cinderella plays later. USA have the City game tomorrow morning.

Who would have thought a week 21 matchup between LFC and Chelsea would be the midtable clash and Arsenal v United would be the top four battle.
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I had a terrible thought. Did Villa get relegated? I swear I have not seen them on US TV all year.

They are one of the teams which, though I have no connection, I always root to stay up. They are foundational to me, like Liverpool, Newcastle, Tottenham, Man U (and Sunderland, QPR, and Wolves, but we don't like to talk about that).
 
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