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Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

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Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

I'm pretty sure that the only thing impacting the Right/Left indicator are the economic questions. The only reason I can think of as to why that this was done to avoid confusion in terminology between social libertarian and economic libertarian (social libert. & right), as well as social authoritarian and economic authoritarian (social auth. & left).
 
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June 2014: Left Social Libertarian
Left: 6.02, Libertarian: 3.64
Foreign Policy: -7.15
Culture: -6.8
 
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This same quiz, or one that's worded very similarly, with the quadrant output, used to be on one of the Libertarian Party's websites. I'm not sure if it's still there or not. I read the quiz and got the impression that they make it very appealing to choose the libertarian point of view on many of these issues, more so than most people are likely to answer when/if they're discussing amongst friends.

It used to be called "the world's smallest political quiz." It was obviously loaded to push the capital L Libertarian position. You basically had to be Karl Marx or Vlad the Impaler not to get the answer, "it turns out you're a Libertarian!"
 
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I am f*ed. I'm hardcore hawk and economy, but socially very liberal. I have no home. ... now who do I vote for? Hillary? or some right wing whack job that the Republicans run?
Sounds like you're a Christie voter; if he gets nominated you should have no trouble backing him. There are also some blue dog Dems you might like. Not sure what Evan Bayh is doing these days.

Really, that combination (fiscally conservative, foreign policy hawk, socially tolerant) is not unusual among northeastern or PNW state and/or urban local Republicans, or deep southern suburban Democrats.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

It used to be called "the world's smallest political quiz." It was obviously loaded to push the capital L Libertarian position. You basically had to be Karl Marx or Vlad the Impaler not to get the answer, "it turns out you're a Libertarian!"

Yeah, I remember when that quiz was cool in 2003. *rattles false teeth*
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

<b>My Political Views</b><br>I am a center-right social libertarian<br>Right: 2.2, Libertarian: 4.15<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/24x28.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

<b>My Foreign Policy Views</b><br>Score: -0.98<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n45.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>

<b>My Culture War Stance</b><br>Score: -2.23<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c39.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Are there any foreign policy hawks under the age of 70 anymore? I'm not sure how you'd judge that question but in context of the two most recent wars it seems very few people would to still be there, or even think the wars were worthwhile. On the other hand, asking if we should defend Canada if Putin invades it or something like that will get a high positive response but doesn't necessary make you Dick Cheney if you answer in the affirmative....
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Apparently my views have swung opposite of what I expected...
Ever so slightly more to the right (puzzling)
My views have become less libertarian (also puzzling)
I'm less of a non-interventionalist (baffling)
More culturally conservative (very baffling)

Not sure why these have swung the way they did. Everything but my politics score shifted more towards the center while the politics swung to the right.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Apparently my views have swung opposite of what I expected...
Ever so slightly more to the right (puzzling)
My views have become less libertarian (also puzzling)
I'm less of a non-interventionalist (baffling)
More culturally conservative (very baffling)

Not sure why these have swung the way they did. Everything but my politics score shifted more towards the center while the politics swung to the right.

It's likely the importance of the various items on the list. If you rated it as very important in the past, but only as important now (perhaps because things have improved in that area, in your opinion), that will move your score more towards the center than last time. Or, of course, the opposite would be true if you're moving further from center on a rating. Now, if you've moved from somewhere on the left to being on the right, then you've got other considerations, but that's not something we've seen out of people reporting their results here.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

I don't generally discuss politics on the internet, but the quiz is interesting.

<b>My Political Views</b><br>I am a center-left social libertarian<br>Left: 1.13, Libertarian: 4.59<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/18x29.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>
<b>My Foreign Policy Views</b><br>Score: -4.91<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n25.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>
<b>My Culture War Stance</b><br>Score: -7.39<br><img src="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c13.gif"><br><a href="http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html">Political Spectrum Quiz</a><br>
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

I'm pretty sure that the only thing impacting the Right/Left indicator are the economic questions. The only reason I can think of as to why that this was done to avoid confusion in terminology between social libertarian and economic libertarian (social libert. & right), as well as social authoritarian and economic authoritarian (social auth. & left).



I had developed a similar grid a few years ago without using the "left-right" concept at all. I had a similar vertical axis of Centralized Control on top and Individual Liberty on the bottom (their Authoritarian / Libertarian axis), but the horizontal axis was Radical - Conservative ("left" / Radical was "don't trust your elders, invent new things" and "right" / Conservative was "we've tested these ideas for a long time and empirically we generally have found them to be pretty effective over time").

In this grid, "progressives" would be upper left, "monarchists" would be upper right, "liberals" would be lower right, and "anarchists" would be lower left.

It was surprising to me to see liberals and progressives as polar opposites in this terminology since so many people use the two words interchangeably.

To me a "liberal" was individual liberty and (mostly) free markets while a "progressive" is all about government control and "we are smarter than anyone who ever lived" superiority.

If you want to place a "classic" thinker on each axis, you'd have Hobbes or Plato on the top, Marx on the left, Burke on the right, and Jefferson or Adam Smith on the bottom.
 
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Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

It's likely the importance of the various items on the list. If you rated it as very important in the past, but only as important now (perhaps because things have improved in that area, in your opinion), that will move your score more towards the center than last time. Or, of course, the opposite would be true if you're moving further from center on a rating. Now, if you've moved from somewhere on the left to being on the right, then you've got other considerations, but that's not something we've seen out of people reporting their results here.

My thoughts as well.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

It's likely the importance of the various items on the list.

Easy to test it. Set up two tests with identical answers, keep one as a control, then start moving individual answers around, either the answer or its weighting. The algorithm should be pretty obvious after a few manipulations.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Easy to test it. Set up two tests with identical answers, keep one as a control, then start moving individual answers around, either the answer or its weighting. The algorithm should be pretty obvious after a few manipulations.

Yeah, but this is an internet thing that's only somewhat interesting. I'm not putting that much effort into it.
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Yeah, but this is an internet thing that's only somewhat interesting. I'm not putting that much effort into it.

I've always thought it would be neat to try to design "critical test" questions that both left and right (and statist-ish and anarchist-ish) people could agree on. Too often, these tests are transparently trying to frame thinking to produce the "correct" answer ("Should the FDA control heroin or should 6-year-olds be permitted to shoot smack at recess?"). We would need a diverse panel of honest hard-left, soft-left, middle of the road, soft-right, and hard-right people to design non-leading questions. Then, the calibration of the answer space (the place where you put the origin) would also have to be non-leading. Is "middle of the road"ness operationally defined as the centerpoint of all answers, or is it theoretically pre-determined and then let the answers fall where they may -- perhaps predominantly in one sector?
 
Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

centrist social moderate.
Left: 0.59
authoritarian 0.96
foreign policy: -0.96
culture: 2.8


so, slightly non-interventionist and somewhat socially conservative. Sounds about right.


lol!
 
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