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Year One of the Nacho--Likes & Dislikes?

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Your conference sounds delicious. Also, I would like to see some OOC set up between you Colorado teams and RIT... for purely selfish reasons. That is all.

It is delicious. It's so great it gives WCHA fans heartburn. Which is where they got the joke about calling us Nachos from.
 
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Worst part? WCHA fans whining about the conference and beating a dead horse when talking about it's formation.

And we aren't supposed to be tired of you continually beating your chest about it and doing a lame job of trolling in general? :D :p
 
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It is delicious. It's so great it gives WCHA fans heartburn. Which is where they got the joke about calling us Nachos from.
However you need to rationalize things in order to delude yourself that your team/school wasn't butthurt when it's two biggest financial supporters decided to bail and leave you behind.
 
However you need to rationalize things in order to delude yourself that your team/school wasn't butthurt when it's two biggest financial supporters decided to bail and leave you behind.

The king of temper tantrums is calling someone else butthurt?
 
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Butthurt because the WCHA landed just as many teams in the Tourney as the NCHC? Nah... ****ty nonconference w/l will do that to you...

And, wow, had UAA taken Ferris down, and gotten MSU on a 'bad' night(not likely), the WCHA has 3 teams going and ND might not have made it at all...
 
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Re: Year One of the Nacho--Likes & Dislikes?

Likes and Dislikes, eh?

Likes: Miami chokes on their own spittle for five solid months.

Dislikes: Miami gets healthy, hot and nearly runs the table clear to the NCAAs.

Purely an outsider's point of view, so I don't expect anybody to care what I've got to say.

I just hate Miami, and make no apologies for it.
 
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You know you should quit when Jan fans are getting the best of you.

#neverhappenedtome
 
However you need to rationalize things in order to delude yourself that your team/school wasn't butthurt when it's two biggest financial supporters decided to bail and leave you behind.

I'm rationalizing anything, it's the truth!
 
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Butthurt because the WCHA landed just as many teams in the Tourney as the NCHC? Nah... ****ty nonconference w/l will do that to you...

And, wow, had UAA taken Ferris down, and gotten MSU on a 'bad' night(not likely), the WCHA has 3 teams going and ND might not have made it at all...

foot meet mouth...
 
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You must not be able to count.
NCHC got 3 in, WCHA 2.

Butthurt because the WCHA landed just as many teams in the Tourney as the NCHC? Nah... ****ty nonconference w/l will do that to you...

And, wow, had UAA taken Ferris down, and gotten MSU on a 'bad' night(not likely), the WCHA has 3 teams going and ND might not have made it at all...

Yeah, if you really want to go down the "woulda coulda shoulda" road, here we go. Had the WCHA not suffered the realignment that just went down, Minnesota, Wisconsin, St.Cloud, North Dakota and Mankato would have fought it out for the championship. UNO and UMD fighting somewhere in the middle of that. So all of the great nWCHA teams outside of Mankato would have been on the road in the first round and likely lost.

Put the NCHC and nWCHA together and you would have had SCSU, North Dakota, Ferris and Mankato battling for the top spot. And again, UNO and UMD close behind. And in a normal year, Miami is up there right on top as well. Once again leaving the rest of the nWCHA on the road in the first round of the conference playoffs and irrelevant as usual.

And yes, I know SCSU wasn't on the original invite list for the NCHC. That's fine, drop us into the nWCHA and they are in a three way fight with Ferris and Mankato. I would have liked their odds in that. What would have held them back would be long-term recruiting in the smaller league vs. what they can bring in being associated with the NCHC schools.

FWIW, I've been watching all three leagues that have come out of the realignment, particularly the NCHC and nWCHA as the two team B1G is of the least interest. NCHC was tight from top to bottom as expected. And it was really fun watching the nWCHA as the parity in that league brought excitement to a bunch of schools that hadn't seen much success recently. Really don't see Mankato fans complaining about realignment, just the rest of the perennial cellar dwellers of the oWCHA. Want to talk ****ty non-conference W/L? How does nWCHA's 4-14-6 against the NCHC grab you?

I'd say schedule a tournament between the NCHC and the nWCHA but that wouldn't do anything for NCHC schools PWR outside of the ones who would get to play Ferris and Mankato.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming in the real world.
 
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I'd say schedule a tournament between the NCHC and the nWCHA but that wouldn't do anything for NCHC schools PWR outside of the ones who would get to play Ferris and Mankato.

While I will never love the Nacho (sorry, Ferris fan) I reserve most of my hate for the Hockey Death Star which was the formation of the B$10, which kind of kills me because I am a Michigan State graduate. However whining is not going to change anything. And truth be told I doubt this is the last realignment we'll see over the next 10 years (although hopefully nothing as drastic as this was).

That said I would like to see some more good non-conferance games. Playing a variety of teams would be good for everyone and is part of the reason I enjoy the holiday tournaments.

Random question, how has travel been for fans? I know at the start of all this that a big concern was fans not being able to travel to games being that the teams were geographically so far apart. How much effect has this really had?
 
Re: Year One of the Nacho--Likes & Dislikes?

While I will never love the Nacho (sorry, Ferris fan) I reserve most of my hate for the Hockey Death Star which was the formation of the B$10, which kind of kills me because I am a Michigan State graduate. However whining is not going to change anything. And truth be told I doubt this is the last realignment we'll see over the next 10 years (although hopefully nothing as drastic as this was).

That said I would like to see some more good non-conferance games. Playing a variety of teams would be good for everyone and is part of the reason I enjoy the holiday tournaments.

Random question, how has travel been for fans? I know at the start of all this that a big concern was fans not being able to travel to games being that the teams were geographically so far apart. How much effect has this really had?

As a UMD fan who lives in the Twin Cities it hasn't affected me much. There are less conference games I can make because the team is in Michigan or Ohio but there's no Alaska trip and we play our Minnesota rivals in nonconference. I'm sure the story is much different for Western or Miami fans.

All in all there are still teams relatively close to me: SCSU, UNO, UND.
 
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In their old conferences, the nWCHA teams each made the NCAA tournament or won conference hardware once every 6-10 years. For the life of me I can't figure out why their fans can't take an optimistic view of things and be happy about the fact that now their team has a chance to win something instead of mostly being a punching bag for the NCHC/B1G schools.
 
Re: Year One of the Nacho--Likes & Dislikes?

Random question, how has travel been for fans? I know at the start of all this that a big concern was fans not being able to travel to games being that the teams were geographically so far apart. How much effect has this really had?

I know this thread is directed at NCHC folks, but I feel compelled to answer this question from my own perspective.

The travel sucks, and has put a severe damper on our ability to see games away from home. I live about 20 miles south of BG, so back in the CCHA days trips to Columbus (1:30) and Ann Arbor(2:00) were like HOME games for us, and we went almost ALL the time. East Lansing, Oxford, South Bend, and Kalamazoo were all in the 3 hour range, so we did at least a couple of those every year. Ferris is about 4:30 for us, so we didn't make that trip on a regular basis, but maybe every second or third time. Lake State and Northern are hauls, and require taking off work all day on Friday, so they were only occasional trips, and then only if it was very early in the season.

Its rarely a problem for us to get away from our jobs at lunch time on Friday, but we can't burn full days of vacation time for each of 5 or 6 trips...PLUS those long drives are exhausting. Now, our CLOSEST conference mate is Ferris. That's the ONLY trip we can make without burning a full day off work. I'm NOT pleased to report that we didn't make one, single road trip this season...for the first time in at least 20 years. I hope that next year's schedule fits better with our work and family schedules, but the bottom line is: there are simply lots fewer, realistic travel opportunities for us...and I don't believe we are alone in that regard.
 
Re: Year One of the Nacho--Likes & Dislikes?

As a UMD fan who lives in the Twin Cities it hasn't affected me much. There are less conference games I can make because the team is in Michigan or Ohio but there's no Alaska trip and we play our Minnesota rivals in nonconference. I'm sure the story is much different for Western or Miami fans.

All in all there are still teams relatively close to me: SCSU, UNO, UND.

Same except for trade out SCSU for UMD. Still have UMD, UND and UNO relatively close. Wasn't likely to go to Colorado so that hasn't changed and wasn't likely to go out to Tech or Alaska, so put Miami and Western in the same situation there.

I do miss the easy drive to Mankato and of course the games with the Gophers. The North Star Cup was a nice consolation prize there. But if I heard correctly, SCSU is the odd man out next year. Might still go but less likely without my dog in the fight.

My alumni group's roadtrip didn't happen this year due to the UNO series being over and us not having our sh*t together for the UND away series. And then I was out in Scottsdale the weekend of the home series with UND. Not a great year for attending Huskies games so far. But I did get the group together to head to the games this weekend. $100 for the three regional games doesn't seem so bad. Pretty sure that is less than what I paid for the one where we lost to Bucky a few years back. Could be wrong.

Would love to see them drop a few conference games to allow for a couple more OOC games. Wasn't super excited about Union and Colgate from the ECAC this year but clearly were good teams and good for PWR. Drop one of the home and away pairings to allow one more OOC weekend. Get a HE team scheduled instead if possible.
 
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For the life of me I can't figure out why their fans can't take an optimistic view of things and be happy about the fact that now their team has a chance to win something instead of mostly being a punching bag for the NCHC/B1G schools.

that's an easy one.
because win or lose, rivalries matter. Miami State and Western may have you all bamboozled into thinking they're nachos, but we know who they really are: MAC schools with pretension.
nothing against Bemidji or Mankato, but the nWCHA rivalries are a snooze. no history, no blood. it's a shotgun marriage, and we know how those usually work out. ;)
Oh well. In the meantime, we've got both Oxford State and OSU on the schedule next year, almost like old times in Ohio!
 
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