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Yale - The best team in the country?

Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

nope, UMDuluth Bullgods get my vote for #1. Last I checked Yale had played 4 fewer games than everyone else in the top 5.
 
Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

MAVFANJEFF said:
nope, UMDuluth Bullgods get my vote for #1. Last I checked Yale had played 4 fewer games than everyone else in the top 5.
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Played four fewer games but have won just as many as the top five teams.

If the voters do it then so be it. But something tells me this first place vote will be like when an underdog barely beats a reigning champion in boxing and looses on the scorecard, they deserve the points but the reputation and bias shown toward the "known" teams will keep Yale ranked second. Be interesting to see where BC ends up as well.

The fact that this thread is being taken seriously now is enough satisfaction for me, however premature we may have thought HJ's thread was.
 
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Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

LTsatch said:
Played four fewer games but have won just as many as the top five teams.

If the voters do it then so be it. But something tells me this first place vote will be like when an underdog barely beats a reigning champion in boxing and looses on the scorecard, they deserve the points but the reputation and bias shown toward the "known" teams will keep Yale ranked second. Be interesting to see where BC ends up as well.

The fact that this thread is being taken seriously now is enough satisfaction for me, however premature we may have thought HJ's thread was.
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I would imagine that Yale will get a decent amount of #1 votes. They might not overtake Duluth with the top spot, but it will be close.

More importantly, Yale is #1 in the Pairwise Rankings, which is all that really matters.
 
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LTsatch said:
Played four fewer games but have won just as many as the top five teams.

If the voters do it then so be it. But something tells me this first place vote will be like when an underdog barely beats a reigning champion in boxing and looses on the scorecard, they deserve the points but the reputation and bias shown toward the "known" teams will keep Yale ranked second. Be interesting to see where BC ends up as well.

The fact that this thread is being taken seriously now is enough satisfaction for me, however premature we may have thought HJ's thread was.
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LT - premature?!?! How about just saying what great foresight and understanding of the college hockey landscape it was ;) ...just kidding..its all good just glad to see Yale finally getting respect, you and the other Eli fans deserve it...that is a legit hockey team you got in pistol wavin' new haven
 
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I wateched the game on TV today and I saw Yale play two games in Worcester last spring in the NCAA's and yes they are very fun to watch as they combine speed and creativity. Decent goaltending last year and they could have won the national title.
I am a long time Providence College fan and we just have not seen that kind of offensive talent here in years.

But before annointing this team the best I would want to see them against teams like BC and Maine, who can match their speed. BC-Yale is a game I would pay a lot of money to see--it was quite a show in the NCAAs when they met. Good luck to this team and look forward to seeing them in the NCAAs again

By the way--I would make Kearny the Hobey candidiate
 
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Someone today on Twitter said that Yale is the Boise State of college hockey. Point being that they may be one of (if not the) the best team(s) in the country, but since they don't play the strength of schedule that the other top teams play (Yale has the 29th most difficult SOS to this point, while UMD has the 4th most difficult and NoDak and Denver - 2-4 in the current KRACH - have the 1st, and 3rd most difficult (and, for the record, Bemidji State has the 2nd most difficult SOS, making quite the statement again about the depth of the WCHA, no?)), all they have to do is win that one big game (note today's win over Union) to "prove" that they're good.

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
More importantly, Yale is #1 in the Pairwise Rankings, which is all that really matters.
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Yep - the December 5th Pairwise will be referenced when the tourney field is selected :p
 
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moose97 said:
Yep - the December 5th Pairwise will be referenced when the tourney field is selected :p
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Just as the December 6th poll will be :p:D:D

I was under the impression that we were talking about right now. Although, if you look at the rest of Yale's schedule, they could very well finish the season with less than 5 losses.
 
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The Boise State analogy is pretty good (although I think the ECAC is relatively better then the WAC, but the basic point is fair). This if course gives Yale a very small margin for error... they have to have a very gaudy record to have serious consideration as number one, just as Boise State has to go undefeated to have a chance. And even that doesn't necessarily work if you're not impressive enough... just ask TCU. As long as they stay recognized as one of the top 8, though, they'll have as good a chance in the playoffs as anybody, which is all that really matters.

The big worry for me is to find out how they do against a talented physical team. As a pretty nonphysical team, they have no problem skating rings around untalented physical teams, ant they are probably the fastest team in the country. But when you don't play the best teams on a consistent basis, what you gain in record you lose in experience against styles that you aren't really ready for. That's why the win in the playoffs against North Dakota last year was so impressive, even though they couldn't close the deal the next day against BC, even though they scored 7. To me, it's not where they're rated... if they don't have a bunch of injuries they're going to be rated high enough. It's an experience question to me.
 
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czeckthebody said:
I wateched the game on TV today and I saw Yale play two games in Worcester last spring in the NCAA's and yes they are very fun to watch as they combine speed and creativity. Decent goaltending last year and they could have won the national title.
I am a long time Providence College fan and we just have not seen that kind of offensive talent here in years.

But before annointing this team the best I would want to see them against teams like BC and Maine, who can match their speed. BC-Yale is a game I would pay a lot of money to see--it was quite a show in the NCAAs when they met. Good luck to this team and look forward to seeing them in the NCAAs again

By the way--I would make Kearny the Hobey candidiate
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You are correct, Czeck. Denny is already in the Hobey conversation, as well he SHOULD be. BTW, for those of you playing at home (and who didn't
get to see the Vancouver Olympics), KearnEy is pronounced CAR-ney. He's been en fuego ever since the Quinnipiac game in Hamden on 2/27/10. Word on the
street (Prospect) is that he took a little good-natured umbrage at being called the second-best athlete in the family. Rock on, Den!!!!!
 
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goblue78 said:
That's why the win in the playoffs against South Dakota last year was so impressive, even though they couldn't close the deal the next day against BC, even though they scored 7. To me, it's not where they're rated... if they don't have a bunch of injuries they're going to be rated high enough. It's an experience question to me.
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Beating South Dakota at hockey really isn't all that impressive in my opinion.
 
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goblue78 said:
The Boise State analogy is pretty good (although I think the ECAC is relatively better then the WAC, but the basic point is fair). This if course gives Yale a very small margin for error... they have to have a very gaudy record to have serious consideration as number one, just as Boise State has to go undefeated to have a chance. And even that doesn't necessarily work if you're not impressive enough... just ask TCU. As long as they stay recognized as one of the top 8, though, they'll have as good a chance in the playoffs as anybody, which is all that really matters.


The big worry for me is to find out how they do against a talented physical team. As a pretty nonphysical team, they have no problem skating rings around untalented physical teams, ant they are probably the fastest team in the country. But when you don't play the best teams on a consistent basis, what you gain in record you lose in experience against styles that you aren't really ready for. That's why the win in the playoffs against South Dakota last year was so impressive, even though they couldn't close the deal the next day against BC, even though they scored 7. To me, it's not where they're rated... if they don't have a bunch of injuries they're going to be rated high enough. It's an experience question to me.
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Hey bud change that south dakota to nodak before some ******* chirps you...
 
Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

goblue78 said:
The Boise State analogy is pretty good (although I think the ECAC is relatively better then the WAC, but the basic point is fair). This if course gives Yale a very small margin for error... they have to have a very gaudy record to have serious consideration as number one, just as Boise State has to go undefeated to have a chance. And even that doesn't necessarily work if you're not impressive enough... just ask TCU. As long as they stay recognized as one of the top 8, though, they'll have as good a chance in the playoffs as anybody, which is all that really matters.

The big worry for me is to find out how they do against a talented physical team. As a pretty nonphysical team, they have no problem skating rings around untalented physical teams, ant they are probably the fastest team in the country. But when you don't play the best teams on a consistent basis, what you gain in record you lose in experience against styles that you aren't really ready for. That's why the win in the playoffs against **NORTH** Dakota last year was so impressive, even though they couldn't close the deal the next day against BC, even though they scored 7. To me, it's not where they're rated... if they don't have a bunch of injuries they're going to be rated high enough. It's an experience question to me.
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Yale's recipe for success is making the NCAAs as at least a 2 or 3 seed. Playing in Bridgeport, they'll be pretty much at home.
 
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yaledoc said:
You are correct, Czeck. Denny is already in the Hobey conversation, as well he SHOULD be. BTW, for those of you playing at home (and who didn't
get to see the Vancouver Olympics), KearnEy is pronounced CAR-ney. He's been en fuego ever since the Quinnipiac game in Hamden on 2/27/10. Word on the
street (Prospect) is that he took a little good-natured umbrage at being called the second-best athlete in the family. Rock on, Den!!!!!
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Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

goblue78 said:
The Boise State analogy is pretty good (although I think the ECAC is relatively better then the WAC, but the basic point is fair). This if course gives Yale a very small margin for error... they have to have a very gaudy record to have serious consideration as number one, just as Boise State has to go undefeated to have a chance. And even that doesn't necessarily work if you're not impressive enough... just ask TCU. As long as they stay recognized as one of the top 8, though, they'll have as good a chance in the playoffs as anybody, which is all that really matters.

The big worry for me is to find out how they do against a talented physical team. As a pretty nonphysical team, they have no problem skating rings around untalented physical teams, ant they are probably the fastest team in the country. But when you don't play the best teams on a consistent basis, what you gain in record you lose in experience against styles that you aren't really ready for. That's why the win in the playoffs against South Dakota last year was so impressive, even though they couldn't close the deal the next day against BC, even though they scored 7. To me, it's not where they're rated... if they don't have a bunch of injuries they're going to be rated high enough. It's an experience question to me.
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Notwithstanding the move of the Fighting Sioux from Grand Forks to Pierre, I agree with your line of reasoning. What should not be overlooked, however..... and the great
"take home lesson" from today's game is the Bulldogs' adaptability..... the capacity of Little AND Kearney to help their team WIN, even when they don't hit the score sheet. As King
Barry pointed out, they have a LOT of weapons.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
And then hoping they can draw South Dakota again :p:D:D

That explains what happened last March...I knew the Sioux were better than that :p:D:D
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Well maybe next year you can be the North Dakotan South Dakotans. Then you can claim you have something cool like Mt Rushmore, the Blackhills or the Badlands.
 
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