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Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
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Nice to see Cahill net two after all the BS recently. The kid plays hard and the goal where he took out the player trying to exit his own zone along the blue line and then scooping up the resulting turnover for a breakaway goal was a thing of beauty. It could only be topped by Agostino's game winner in which he had a CC defender draped on his back for about 15 feet and then just muscled a shot over the CC goalie, one of the best of the year so far. Clarkson is a great team, they have some very talented skaters and pressured Yale well throughout the game. Thier goalie was exceptional tonight and the game may have been 7-2 if not for his effort. Rondeau played well, the second goal was kind of a bad angle which he usually saves. He has been straying from the net alot more lately and i am not sure if I am comfortable with his out of net play. Too many penalties by both teams tonight, the refs were not stingy on the whistle either, there was a ten second sequence during the game where both goalies made breakaway saves, ridiculous.
Nice to see Cahill net two after all the BS recently. The kid plays hard and the goal where he took out the player trying to exit his own zone along the blue line and then scooping up the resulting turnover for a breakaway goal was a thing of beauty. It could only be topped by Agostino's game winner in which he had a CC defender draped on his back for about 15 feet and then just muscled a shot over the CC goalie, one of the best of the year so far. Clarkson is a great team, they have some very talented skaters and pressured Yale well throughout the game. Thier goalie was exceptional tonight and the game may have been 7-2 if not for his effort. Rondeau played well, the second goal was kind of a bad angle which he usually saves. He has been straying from the net alot more lately and i am not sure if I am comfortable with his out of net play. Too many penalties by both teams tonight, the refs were not stingy on the whistle either, there was a ten second sequence during the game where both goalies made breakaway saves, ridiculous.
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Tried a little google to no avail, those Blue Points at Dive Bar sure tasted good tonight Y84
Tried a little google to no avail, those Blue Points at Dive Bar sure tasted good tonight Y84
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
A quality win over a pesky Clarkson squad. Defazio is a little punk--should be interesting when he meets Harry Z. tonight--like a Circle Jerks reunion. The defense is slipping a bit in terms of coverage and gave the Knights a bunch of chances that better teams would have finished. Allain doesn't have a lot of options but I hope he finds a way to raise the play of his blueliners.
St. Lawrence is going to be fired up tonight. Yale had better be ready for another physical game.
Oh, and let's hope Ritchie found some black ice on his way home...
A quality win over a pesky Clarkson squad. Defazio is a little punk--should be interesting when he meets Harry Z. tonight--like a Circle Jerks reunion. The defense is slipping a bit in terms of coverage and gave the Knights a bunch of chances that better teams would have finished. Allain doesn't have a lot of options but I hope he finds a way to raise the play of his blueliners.
St. Lawrence is going to be fired up tonight. Yale had better be ready for another physical game.
Oh, and let's hope Ritchie found some black ice on his way home...
TuteScrooge
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
I was at the game last night as a fan of college hockey. Some points:
1. Clarkson gave Yale all they could handle. In no way does the final score reflect the contest. Tied in the third, could have gone either way. On balance, Yale deserved to win, but not by a 5-2 margin.
2. Clarkson will be a tough out the rest of the way. They are tenacious and have some talent. They also like to hit.
3. Yale is a solid team, very fast and many with talented hands. They don't like the physical play much and tend to avoid it [although as LTsatch points out Cahill scored by creating a turnover by playing the body]. Having seen them a couple of times this year, I'm still not convinced they are a legit #1. I'll give them top 5, but reserve the top for someone else.
4. The fans at Ingalls were a disappointment. Not knowledgeable or clever. There was a loud guy near me who was clueless about the game, he kept calling for things that aren't even against the rules.
4. The Yale band was similarly a disappointment. No 'O Canada' prior to the game. Had to rely on the Clarkson band to render an a cappella version. There were a smattering of boos from the crowd, disappointing. Also, no alma mater was played; surprising for a college game. The majority of the music was canned though the PA. I thought the Clarkson band was more involved.
I was at the game last night as a fan of college hockey. Some points:
1. Clarkson gave Yale all they could handle. In no way does the final score reflect the contest. Tied in the third, could have gone either way. On balance, Yale deserved to win, but not by a 5-2 margin.
2. Clarkson will be a tough out the rest of the way. They are tenacious and have some talent. They also like to hit.
3. Yale is a solid team, very fast and many with talented hands. They don't like the physical play much and tend to avoid it [although as LTsatch points out Cahill scored by creating a turnover by playing the body]. Having seen them a couple of times this year, I'm still not convinced they are a legit #1. I'll give them top 5, but reserve the top for someone else.
4. The fans at Ingalls were a disappointment. Not knowledgeable or clever. There was a loud guy near me who was clueless about the game, he kept calling for things that aren't even against the rules.
4. The Yale band was similarly a disappointment. No 'O Canada' prior to the game. Had to rely on the Clarkson band to render an a cappella version. There were a smattering of boos from the crowd, disappointing. Also, no alma mater was played; surprising for a college game. The majority of the music was canned though the PA. I thought the Clarkson band was more involved.
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Not sure what a clever crowd is but if it means chants and the like, the band pretty much handles that. Real New Haven fans are very savvy, they applaud when it is deserved, but do not cry and whine too much over bad calls, we do have a band wagon presence at games these days who may not be as in tune with the game as the avid fan, but what do you expect. I really don't care how many "battle of the bands" we lose, unless the NCAA starts keeping score.
Nice turnout and support by the Clarkson faithful last night.
Not sure what a clever crowd is but if it means chants and the like, the band pretty much handles that. Real New Haven fans are very savvy, they applaud when it is deserved, but do not cry and whine too much over bad calls, we do have a band wagon presence at games these days who may not be as in tune with the game as the avid fan, but what do you expect. I really don't care how many "battle of the bands" we lose, unless the NCAA starts keeping score.
Nice turnout and support by the Clarkson faithful last night.hockeyplayer1015
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Clarkson is one of the few teams that plays both anthems before every game, SLU and RPI do as well, and I'm sure there are a few others.
Headed up to the Whale in about 20 minutes from NYC. I'll be repping my road SLU #15 jersey, feel free to say hello.
Clarkson is one of the few teams that plays both anthems before every game, SLU and RPI do as well, and I'm sure there are a few others.
Headed up to the Whale in about 20 minutes from NYC. I'll be repping my road SLU #15 jersey, feel free to say hello.
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
The alma mater is reserved for games against Harvard. Thirty years ago, they used to play it in games against Princeton as well, but there was a grand shift of policy in which it was decided that "Princeton doesn't matter."
The alma mater is reserved for games against Harvard. Thirty years ago, they used to play it in games against Princeton as well, but there was a grand shift of policy in which it was decided that "Princeton doesn't matter."
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Not really sure what you expected at a hockey game. And please don't judge the Whale by one fan. Sure, our student section isn't the same as Cornell's or Michigan's, but we get into the game. It was also our 5th straight sellout, which can't be said by most of the ECAC.
As for the band, they play one fight song ("Bulldog") after every goal and at the beginning/end of the periods. Another fight song ("Down the Field") is played at the end of the game, and, if you stay long enough after the game, you'll hear the alma mater ("Bright College Years"). Yesterday was the new Drum Major's first day, so look for her and the band to get more involved in the next couple of weeks.
Not really sure what you expected at a hockey game. And please don't judge the Whale by one fan. Sure, our student section isn't the same as Cornell's or Michigan's, but we get into the game. It was also our 5th straight sellout, which can't be said by most of the ECAC.
As for the band, they play one fight song ("Bulldog") after every goal and at the beginning/end of the periods. Another fight song ("Down the Field") is played at the end of the game, and, if you stay long enough after the game, you'll hear the alma mater ("Bright College Years"). Yesterday was the new Drum Major's first day, so look for her and the band to get more involved in the next couple of weeks.
Yalewhaler
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
I agree with the D play slipping, especially when the puck is in our Dzone for awhile - a lot of running around occurs. With that said, there is not much Allain can do because the only other listed defenseman on the team, Young and Hudkins are still out with injuries.
I agree with the D play slipping, especially when the puck is in our Dzone for awhile - a lot of running around occurs. With that said, there is not much Allain can do because the only other listed defenseman on the team, Young and Hudkins are still out with injuries.
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Dam. I wonder if Malcolm can play D? He sure ain't playing in net anytime soon.
Dam. I wonder if Malcolm can play D? He sure ain't playing in net anytime soon.
StayPuftMMcu
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
I don't know if you were paying much attention to the circumstances of Jailhouse, but it only gets played when Clarkson's headed to the power play (get it?). Tradition is tradition. Also, with the large number of Canadians playing NCAA hockey particularly in the ECAC, I find it surprising and disappointing that more schools don't play O Canada before the Star Spangled Banner. Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Cornell all do, as well as one or two others I believe.
I don't know if you were paying much attention to the circumstances of Jailhouse, but it only gets played when Clarkson's headed to the power play (get it?). Tradition is tradition. Also, with the large number of Canadians playing NCAA hockey particularly in the ECAC, I find it surprising and disappointing that more schools don't play O Canada before the Star Spangled Banner. Clarkson, SLU, RPI, and Cornell all do, as well as one or two others I believe.
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Apparently, "good" and "clever" crowds are the ones who spend most of the game finding different ways to chant "you suck" and "sieve". Perfect summation, LT. Yale, despite packing them in like no one else in the league save for Cornell, is indeed a savvy and knowledgeable crowd; student section and the locals are in tune with the game the whole time and there's a discernable buzz in the building every night. Yet somehow, Ingalls and its SRO crowds have gotten a bad rap for this while everyone else's tired aping of the Lynah crowds views themselves as "good" and "clever".
Not sure what a clever crowd is but if it means chants and the like, the band pretty much handles that. Real New Haven fans are very savvy, they applaud when it is deserved, but do not cry and whine too much over bad calls, we do have a band wagon presence at games these days who may not be as in tune with the game as the avid fan, but what do you expect. I really don't care how many "battle of the bands" we lose, unless the NCAA starts keeping score.
Apparently, "good" and "clever" crowds are the ones who spend most of the game finding different ways to chant "you suck" and "sieve". Perfect summation, LT. Yale, despite packing them in like no one else in the league save for Cornell, is indeed a savvy and knowledgeable crowd; student section and the locals are in tune with the game the whole time and there's a discernable buzz in the building every night. Yet somehow, Ingalls and its SRO crowds have gotten a bad rap for this while everyone else's tired aping of the Lynah crowds views themselves as "good" and "clever".
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
Strange game tonight, with Yale being outshot by SLU for most of the first half of the game, Rondeau and the PK unit basically kept Yale in the game until the offense finally hit the net. The team missed at least three point blank wide open looks at the goal in the first and second periods and just whiffed. Then somehow the switch turned on and Yale started forechecking and scoring goals and all was well in Yalesville. SLU is a good team, they have some good skaters but seemed to lack that general team speed to keep up with Yale. As with most Yale wins the Elis just wore down SLU and they were basically way beyond the fitness level of their opponent in the third. Sean Flanagan of SLU pulled a major bush move by tripping Brian O'Neill into the net post while he was scoring an easy open net goal, his intentional penalty resulted in the worst altercation that I have seen this year and the
Yale players penalized were warranted in mugging Flanagan after the play, it is very lucky that he did not end O'Neills career. Brock Little also left the ice injured and scared the Yale crowd on my side by walking straight to the dressing room after his injury. He did return shortly thereafter to play the rest of the game.
another nice win by Yale that keeps the dogs at bay and down in the ecac standings
Strange game tonight, with Yale being outshot by SLU for most of the first half of the game, Rondeau and the PK unit basically kept Yale in the game until the offense finally hit the net. The team missed at least three point blank wide open looks at the goal in the first and second periods and just whiffed. Then somehow the switch turned on and Yale started forechecking and scoring goals and all was well in Yalesville. SLU is a good team, they have some good skaters but seemed to lack that general team speed to keep up with Yale. As with most Yale wins the Elis just wore down SLU and they were basically way beyond the fitness level of their opponent in the third. Sean Flanagan of SLU pulled a major bush move by tripping Brian O'Neill into the net post while he was scoring an easy open net goal, his intentional penalty resulted in the worst altercation that I have seen this year and the
Yale players penalized were warranted in mugging Flanagan after the play, it is very lucky that he did not end O'Neills career. Brock Little also left the ice injured and scared the Yale crowd on my side by walking straight to the dressing room after his injury. He did return shortly thereafter to play the rest of the game.
another nice win by Yale that keeps the dogs at bay and down in the ecac standings
Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
I too was at the totally sold out Whale last night and have some additional comments on the game.
I agree that SLU is a good team, in fact a very good team. I think they easily "won" the first period and if the puck had trickled in for them once or twice they would have easily walked away with a win.
Offensively, in the early going, Yale simply couldn't generate opportunities. I don't think we had more than 1 SOG the first half of the first period and only 6, I think, for the whole period. For this I credit SLU who were successfully pressuring Yale forwards to the outside and into the corners, where the angles are terrible or non-existent. I think SLU did this effectively the entire game and seriously limited our quality SOG.
In a way, we were pretty lucky to win. The SLU goalie was totally screened on our second goal, and if that one doesn't go in, its 1-0 deep into the third, when anything can happen in a close-fought game.
In sum, I thought SLU was skilled and fast enough -- very much capable of skating with us. If anything, I think their breakout was better than ours all night, and they were better able to get in front of our net than vice versa. Credit Rondeau with a very strong game.
On the positive side, Yale played with grit and determination for 60 minutes and did what they had to do to keep SLU out of the net. Good teams do this when the offense can't find its gear. And then when opportunity presented itself, we did score, another sign of a good team. I think opponents are discovering that this team doesn't give up.
Agostino scored twice on nice plays. He has terrific hands and a nose for the net and is definitely one to keep watching, especially if Little and Kearney are not producing. One thing about our team is that with three strong lines, opponents can't beat us by, for example, shutting down the first line.
As for the play by Flanagan at the end, it was seriously dirty. I don't know what kind of supplemental discipline the ECAC has available, but the play definitely warranted a suspension. It was a dangerous dirty play and, I agree, Yale's retaliation was totally understandable.
I too was at the totally sold out Whale last night and have some additional comments on the game.
I agree that SLU is a good team, in fact a very good team. I think they easily "won" the first period and if the puck had trickled in for them once or twice they would have easily walked away with a win.
Offensively, in the early going, Yale simply couldn't generate opportunities. I don't think we had more than 1 SOG the first half of the first period and only 6, I think, for the whole period. For this I credit SLU who were successfully pressuring Yale forwards to the outside and into the corners, where the angles are terrible or non-existent. I think SLU did this effectively the entire game and seriously limited our quality SOG.
In a way, we were pretty lucky to win. The SLU goalie was totally screened on our second goal, and if that one doesn't go in, its 1-0 deep into the third, when anything can happen in a close-fought game.
In sum, I thought SLU was skilled and fast enough -- very much capable of skating with us. If anything, I think their breakout was better than ours all night, and they were better able to get in front of our net than vice versa. Credit Rondeau with a very strong game.
On the positive side, Yale played with grit and determination for 60 minutes and did what they had to do to keep SLU out of the net. Good teams do this when the offense can't find its gear. And then when opportunity presented itself, we did score, another sign of a good team. I think opponents are discovering that this team doesn't give up.
Agostino scored twice on nice plays. He has terrific hands and a nose for the net and is definitely one to keep watching, especially if Little and Kearney are not producing. One thing about our team is that with three strong lines, opponents can't beat us by, for example, shutting down the first line.
As for the play by Flanagan at the end, it was seriously dirty. I don't know what kind of supplemental discipline the ECAC has available, but the play definitely warranted a suspension. It was a dangerous dirty play and, I agree, Yale's retaliation was totally understandable.
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I've never been happier about a 4-1 loss. SLU played a very good game, and should have been up by at least two goals after the first period. I was very happy to be right there in the game after two periods, and I haven't seen a game with that much action in quite a while. That was a lot of fun.
I think SLU skated well, and I actually don't think they fell apart or totally ran out of gas at the end. Yale is just way too good and way too deep. We didn't wilt; your guys just turned on the jets and ran away from us in the third period. That's as good a team as I've seen in our league in a very long time. Keep it up.
Too bad about the ending. I didn't see Flanagan's play because everybody in front of me stood up to see the empty-netter. It was not smart to take him down, but at least one person told me it was more of a trip than a hit from behind. Bad penalty either way, and he did get a DQ and will sit out a game. I'm glad the refs didn't end up handing out the same punishment for anybody else in the scrum afterwards. I think they could have, and that would have been a shame. Also, I think it would be easy to overlook just how good Rondeau was last night. He is a difference-maker.
I've never been happier about a 4-1 loss. SLU played a very good game, and should have been up by at least two goals after the first period. I was very happy to be right there in the game after two periods, and I haven't seen a game with that much action in quite a while. That was a lot of fun.
I think SLU skated well, and I actually don't think they fell apart or totally ran out of gas at the end. Yale is just way too good and way too deep. We didn't wilt; your guys just turned on the jets and ran away from us in the third period. That's as good a team as I've seen in our league in a very long time. Keep it up.
Too bad about the ending. I didn't see Flanagan's play because everybody in front of me stood up to see the empty-netter. It was not smart to take him down, but at least one person told me it was more of a trip than a hit from behind. Bad penalty either way, and he did get a DQ and will sit out a game. I'm glad the refs didn't end up handing out the same punishment for anybody else in the scrum afterwards. I think they could have, and that would have been a shame. Also, I think it would be easy to overlook just how good Rondeau was last night. He is a difference-maker.
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critsports
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Re: Yale Hockey 2010-2011 thread
As an SLU fan I can't say that I disagree with your comment about Flangan's move being a "bush" one and that is very un-Saint Lawrence like. As to Yales' players being "warranted" I'm not sure I agree with you there.
I think that altercation was brewing/stewing even before that borne of our frustration with playing a good game and letting it get away from us at the end. I thought the officiating was also very lopsided and one of the players in the altercation from our side, Drewiske, was I am sure very, very frustrated after being run into the post and Rondeau by a Yale player and then being called for goalie interference when it was the Yale player who should have been penalized. I don't know where you were sitting but we could hear Drewiske talking up a blue streak at the referee after the call and the referee just took it (normally they would add on a penalty for the rough talk) but our guess was the referee blew the call and let Drewiske blow off steam and didn't give him anything extra.
You are also way off base on your comments about conditioning and the fitness level in the third. Have you ever played hockey or a competitive sport??? It wasn't about conditioning. It was about being mentally and physically worn down by a superior opponent. That happens in EVERY sport when a weaker team plays a better opponent.......you can often hang with them for awhile but after a period of time all that talent wins out and the accumulating effect is often exhaustion both mental and physical and it is not conditioning that won the game for Yale in the third, it was superior firepower and us chasing a better team all night long. That is rapidly developing into Yale's MO. Teams can hang with them for awhile but in the third Yale has just worn lesser opponents down and things open up from there. Yale will need to continue that as come tournament time the opposition will be equal or even superior in some cases and they will need everything for the entire 60 minutes.
Good luck the rest of the way. Without fail almost every opponent in the ECAC is proud of Yale's accomplishments this year and the last few and we hope you represent our conference well and can go far come NCAA tournament time.
The players of the game for Yale and SLU were undoubtedly Rondeau and Weninger the two keepers. Although a SLU fan I live close to New Haven and Hamden and have watched quite a few Yale and Q Pac games. I keep waiting for Rondeau to blink or wilt but thus far he hasn't. Were it not for him Yale could easily have been down 1,2 or even 3 nil which could have made for an interesting second half of the game. Down at our end Weninger played superb to keep the lead at 1-0 and he could do nothing on the second (deflection) and third (wide open net from the weak side on the PP) goals.
Getting back to the Flanagan play for the life of me I don't understand why (if his intent was to pull him down) he didn't do it sooner where there wouldn't have been any jeopardy of being near the net. Dumb move and frustration I guess?
Our coach was not present this weekend and I am sure he would not have been pleased with the action of our player (what happened after that is fine because at that point it is only self defense and your/our guys protecting their respective players).
As an SLU fan I can't say that I disagree with your comment about Flangan's move being a "bush" one and that is very un-Saint Lawrence like. As to Yales' players being "warranted" I'm not sure I agree with you there.
I think that altercation was brewing/stewing even before that borne of our frustration with playing a good game and letting it get away from us at the end. I thought the officiating was also very lopsided and one of the players in the altercation from our side, Drewiske, was I am sure very, very frustrated after being run into the post and Rondeau by a Yale player and then being called for goalie interference when it was the Yale player who should have been penalized. I don't know where you were sitting but we could hear Drewiske talking up a blue streak at the referee after the call and the referee just took it (normally they would add on a penalty for the rough talk) but our guess was the referee blew the call and let Drewiske blow off steam and didn't give him anything extra.
You are also way off base on your comments about conditioning and the fitness level in the third. Have you ever played hockey or a competitive sport??? It wasn't about conditioning. It was about being mentally and physically worn down by a superior opponent. That happens in EVERY sport when a weaker team plays a better opponent.......you can often hang with them for awhile but after a period of time all that talent wins out and the accumulating effect is often exhaustion both mental and physical and it is not conditioning that won the game for Yale in the third, it was superior firepower and us chasing a better team all night long. That is rapidly developing into Yale's MO. Teams can hang with them for awhile but in the third Yale has just worn lesser opponents down and things open up from there. Yale will need to continue that as come tournament time the opposition will be equal or even superior in some cases and they will need everything for the entire 60 minutes.
Good luck the rest of the way. Without fail almost every opponent in the ECAC is proud of Yale's accomplishments this year and the last few and we hope you represent our conference well and can go far come NCAA tournament time.
The players of the game for Yale and SLU were undoubtedly Rondeau and Weninger the two keepers. Although a SLU fan I live close to New Haven and Hamden and have watched quite a few Yale and Q Pac games. I keep waiting for Rondeau to blink or wilt but thus far he hasn't. Were it not for him Yale could easily have been down 1,2 or even 3 nil which could have made for an interesting second half of the game. Down at our end Weninger played superb to keep the lead at 1-0 and he could do nothing on the second (deflection) and third (wide open net from the weak side on the PP) goals.
Getting back to the Flanagan play for the life of me I don't understand why (if his intent was to pull him down) he didn't do it sooner where there wouldn't have been any jeopardy of being near the net. Dumb move and frustration I guess?
Our coach was not present this weekend and I am sure he would not have been pleased with the action of our player (what happened after that is fine because at that point it is only self defense and your/our guys protecting their respective players).
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