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Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

bothman said:
The above statement is ridiculous. Yale does not lose its best D-man because of a missed call. Let me simplify:

O'Gara decided to take the law into his hands, and like most decisions that are based on emotion, he is now paying the price. He put himself above the team. Had he done nothing, Malone gets the game (and justifiably so) and he would be playing both games this weekend.

That is the lesson and one that he no doubt will learn from.
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An amazing take on things if we were living in a rose colored world. How can you pass judgment on someone as acting selfishly in the span of 10 seconds when that someone was hit dangerously (with no resulting call) and then hit again by the same player. Have you ever played a sport that moves at light speed? That is not a contact sport but a COLLISION sport?? Because if you have, and you were wronged, than maybe you would understand why O'Gara did what he did. Maybe O'Gara should have said to himself after being hit from behind into the boards resulting in a head and neck injury, "Hey you know what, the referees didn't call that but the ECAC will certainly suspend Malone for a meaningless game so I'm not going to stand up for myself..." Get real!!!

The real lesson here is that life isn't fair, so he'll have to deal with that. Once again, ask Allain, his teammates and most everyone else and they'll tell you that Malone deserved what O'Gara did to him.

So while it's easy to write on your keyboard that O'Gara should have done nothing, take a step back and ask yourself if you wouldn't have done the same thing?? If you are one of the few that could have done nothing, congrats! There are a lot of people that would have taken issue with that as well...
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

"In the third period of Yale's 2-1 victory over the Crimson, O'Gara was sent head-first into the boards by Harvard's Sean Malone. O'Gara remained on the ice for several seconds holding his head. No penalty was called. When he staggered to his feet, he turned to see Malone charging toward him. The two collided, each knocking the other back a step, before O'Gara hit Malone across the side of his head with his stick."

"Yale had been the least penalized team in the country leading into the Harvard game (they're now the fifth least-penalized.) O'Gara had taken eight penalties for 16 minutes in 22 previous games"

Enough said, refs blew this to start (by not calling Malone penalty) then ECAC compounded (by kicking O'Gara out for a third straight game). People forget that in Harvard game it was a 2-1 game at that point early in 3rd period, Malone got no penalty and Harvard got a 3 minute power-play. Fortunately Yale shut them down to preserve a well deserved victory. Now let's go play some games.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

In a perfect world, Malone gets a 2 minute boarding penalty.
In a slightly less perfect world, the Malone penalty is missed, and life goes on.
In a somewhat less perfect world, the Malone penalty is missed, O'Gara retaliates and gets a game misconduct. Subsequent look at the film creates a one game suspension for Malone and a one game suspension for retaliation for O'Gara.
In a considerably less perfect world, the Malone penalty is missed, O'Gara retaliates and gets a DQ, Subsequent look at the film creates a one game suspension for Malone.
In a world made oddly worse for no particular reason (the actual world) the Malone penalty is missed, O'Gara retaliates and gets a DQ, Subsequent look at the film creates a one game suspension for Malone, and O'Gara gets an extra day.
In a world that gets somewhat better, the Malone penalty is missed, O'Gara retaliates and gets a DQ, Subsequent look at the film creates a one game suspension for Malone, and O'Gara gets an extra day, and Harvard never wins another hockey game and Yale never loses one. Ever. It's still possible.

I suspect that what may have happened here is that the ECAC decided that Malone's hit should have been called and clearly instigated the issues so he gets a game, but that retaliation as a concept is worse and therefore deserves something worse, hence the extra game. But O'Gara already got something worse: he missed the rest of the game and caused an undischargeable 5 minute major. This seems like an example of the ECAC deciding that the referee's decision to DQ leaves them with nothing to do to express their disapproval of O'Gara's retaliation. But if they really feel that way, then they ought not to let referees DQ at all. Let referees issue game misconducts and let all DQs come from the league after review.
 
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

bulldog10jw said:
I'm wondering what the thinking is here. If this was an ECAC suspension, shouldn't he have to sit out an ECAC game?
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I don't think the suspension is germane to the ECAC per se. It has to do with being suspended for the next game, whether that be a non-conference tournament game or a regular season conference game. Had this occurred during the Princeton game prior to the first round of the Beanpot, Malone would have missed the game against BC. I think the only exception and I could be wrong here would be an in season exhibition game against a visiting team like the Russians from last year.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

goblue78 said:
I suspect that what may have happened here is that the ECAC decided that Malone's hit should have been called and clearly instigated the issues so he gets a game, but that retaliation as a concept is worse and therefore deserves something worse, hence the extra game. But O'Gara already got something worse: he missed the rest of the game and caused an undischargeable 5 minute major. This seems like an example of the ECAC deciding that the referee's decision to DQ leaves them with nothing to do to express their disapproval of O'Gara's retaliation. But if they really feel that way, then they ought not to let referees DQ at all. Let referees issue game misconducts and let all DQs come from the league after review.
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I agree with this assessment. The refs should be allowed to hand out game misconducts along with major penalties but game disqualifications and suspensions should be determined at the league office after a review that includes all parties who were involved in the incident. I don't want to see any player hurt intentionally or otherwise and there should be a crackdown on this type of play especially where certain schools are involved (like, oh I don't know, CORNELL MAYBE???). I'll say it again; I don't believe that either O'Gara or Malone are dirty in any way, shape or form. I've never seen Sean go after a player in his two plus seasons at Harvard. So I think it had more to do with the game itself and Harvard's regular season frustrations in losing to Yale. I'm not using that as an excuse. Just an observation.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Skate79 said:
I agree with this assessment. The refs should be allowed to hand out game misconducts along with major penalties but game disqualifications and suspensions should be determined at the league office after a review that includes all parties who were involved in the incident. I don't want to see any player hurt intentionally or otherwise and there should be a crackdown on this type of play especially where certain schools are involved (like, oh I don't know, CORNELL MAYBE???). I'll say it again; I don't believe that either O'Gara or Malone are dirty in any way, shape or form. I've never seen Sean go after a player in his two plus seasons at Harvard. So I think it had more to do with the game itself and Harvard's regular season frustrations in losing to Yale. I'm not using that as an excuse. Just an observation.
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I have heard from sources that both refs were also suspended...
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Isn't it nice that so many of the non-Ivy schools in the ECAC, like Colgate tonight, have (free) feeds of their games online.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Very solid game for Yale tonight! Early in the 3rd offense was very flat and wasn't doing much but they picked it up as the period continued. Lyon with some awesome saves. Overall, a hard fought and quality win.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Nice Win and another drop in the pairwise. Frustrating!
I think another win tonight would be very impressive. They had tired legs in the third.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Two shorthanded teams, was impressed with your team speed and obviously Lyon. Witek looked like quite a leader also. Beat those big slow pylons tonight !
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Two weekends in a row scoring 7 goals. A trend?

A great performance by Yale this weekend without O'Gara. Looking forward to his return.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Watched the game on the tablet. Yale has them bottled up for most of the game. I am so impressed that Yale now actually has a pretty formidable forecheck again. This has changed the entire team mentality, and has led to many goals caused by disruption of the oppositions rush. Nice to see Repensky back, he did not seem 100% but did contribute. Piotrowski is really beginning to lead his line and if not for Snively would be my rookie of the year so far. Hayden, Wilson and Learned have been A+ as well. Stellar Team D work as well all weekend, not sure who let Knively by tonight, but the only glaring error. I will say that Knively should have gotten the goal but also 2 minutes for crashing Lyon, who was great again. Two tough teams at home next weekend and then the big showdown at Q
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

It's evident the current coaching staff can't do the job consistently anymore after that game. Consistent flopping in important matchups.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

I think Yale is the most complete opponent we've face this year, and that includes Q and Providence. Well-balanced and backed by the best goalie in the NCAA, they should be a Frozen Four team.
 
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