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Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Harvard had 7 shot through 2 periods. In many ways a dominating performance by Yale. Lyon's first goal was soft, but he more than made up for it.
It was the usual Yale/Harvard chippy game until the third period- nothing really surprising. Whining about Lyon pushing people out of his box is well, whining. Both teams had some questionable hits that got more questionable in the 3rd.
Up until O'Gara's cheapshot, no doubt Harvard was pushing the line on trying to change the balance of a game Yale simply dominated for the first two periods. That being said, there is zero room for O'Gara hit in the game. Harvard delivered several hits from behind in the third, including Malone's, and while the refs should have called, those hits happens at times as part of the game. O'Gara's hit was not a hockey play it was a dirty/intentional shot from a great player who lost his cool. Things like that happen, they are 20 year old college kids and he was ****ed. That being said, he deserved 5 and Yale was lucky that the refs realized they had let Harvard get away with too much up until that point and retroactively gave Harvard a 2 minute minor on the same play. I wouldn't be surprised if he was suspended for another game for the shot (I'd have to see a replay to see exactly where the cross check landed).
Gotta give Allain and staff a ton of credit, they have simply dominated Harvard over the past several years. In many ways the reverse of football except that Harvard actually on the books recruits better for hockey yet players have less success both there and thereafter.

4 takeaways to date: 1. Lyon is that good. 2. Hayden has emerged as the dominating player we had hoped for (best player on the ice last night). 3. The Yale first line now looks like one of the top in the country- far better than what Harvard put out. 4. Piotrowski has come on amazingly strong and continues to improve daily (looking forward to watching that kid develop further over next 4 years- has NHL body as should thrive under Allain).

The only downside is, and I guess I'm being picky, Yale has lost 2 playoff series to Harvard during this domination.
 
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Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

The only downside is, and I guess I'm being picky, Yale has lost 2 playoff series to Harvard during this domination.

I'm amazed at how easily people can disregard the human element of being out on the ice when referees are allowing dangerous plays to take place. There was a lot of nonsense taking place out there on Saturday night. The hit by Malone on O'Gara was a vicious hit that was squarely in the back and resulted in an injured player. This was exactly the kind of hit that ALL leagues are trying to eliminate. There are TWO referees on the ice that just happened to miss it. A dazed O'Gara slowly gets back to his feet only to find Malone once again coming his way and hitting him. If the referees do their job PROPERLY, the resulting retaliation from O'Gara doesn't take place. But when you feel that the people on the ice are not protecting you from these dangerous hits, you're going to take matters into your own hands!! This is exactly what O'Gara did. In the NHL he would have been criticized even more for not responding..! And guess what, the team had his back. They pulled together and got the two points. A great testament to this team's character. Oh and another thing, I don't think Malone missed a shift. Surprised??? I wasn't...

So, you can call O'Gara's hit stupid, selfish or whatever. I call it defending yourself when no one out there is. It's a violent sport no matter how much it's legislated. Both things Malone did (hitting a defenseless player from behind and then embellishing an injury) will only get him in similar situations in the future. And the next time he won't be embellishing...

I'm proud of how O'Gara responded and I'm equally proud of how the team responded for the remainder of the game. I would even go as far as saying that Allain is proud of how he responded as well as O'Gara's future employer.

The only people that should be ashamed are the referees for not doing their job. They do their job and none of this happens.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Is O'Gara definitely out for Colgate this weekend ? Nine guys hurt ?
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

According to the ECAC news section of the USCHO website this morning (I can't figure out how to copy the link to this board from my smartphone), Malone has been suspended for a game due to his actions on the ice (presumably toward O'Gara) during the Yale-Harvard game last Saturday night. Can someone post the link? Will any of our friends from Cambridge perhaps express as much dismay about Malone's roughness as they have toward O'gara and his hit? I am not excusing what O'Gara did, but simply pointing out that it was provoked.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

O'Gara is out for Friday, there were seven players total not suited up this past weekend. Biacco, Beattie, Gaus, T Hart, hitchcock, Izmirlian, Repensky. H. Hart hurt an upper extremity early in the HVD game and played limited minutes afterward. Others also mentioned that Curti did not play much, but i thought he was out there the whole game. Hopefully someone comes back this week, the team was decidedly gassed in the third against HVD and although they won, it is not a plausible to continue to play so short, it will catch up to them.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

According to the ECAC news section of the USCHO website this morning (I can't figure out how to copy the link to this board from my smartphone), Malone has been suspended for a game due to his actions on the ice (presumably toward O'Gara) during the Yale-Harvard game last Saturday night. Can someone post the link? Will any of our friends from Cambridge perhaps express as much dismay about Malone's roughness as they have toward O'gara and his hit? I am not excusing what O'Gara did, but simply pointing out that it was provoked.

This is the text from the ECAC website.

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/harvard/20160802_Malone_Suspension

ALBANY, N.Y. -- ECAC Hockey today announced that Harvard junior forward Sean Malone has been assessed a one-game suspension, in accordance with the League’s supplemental discipline process, as the result of his actions in the Harvard vs. Yale contest Saturday, February 6.

The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in the third period in the Crimson-Bulldogs contest.

Based upon the League’s action, Mr. Malone is not eligible to compete in Harvard’s next contest - Monday, February 8 when the Crimson face Northeastern.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

According to the ECAC news section of the USCHO website this morning (I can't figure out how to copy the link to this board from my smartphone), Malone has been suspended for a game due to his actions on the ice (presumably toward O'Gara) during the Yale-Harvard game last Saturday night. Can someone post the link? Will any of our friends from Cambridge perhaps express as much dismay about Malone's roughness as they have toward O'gara and his hit? I am not excusing what O'Gara did, but simply pointing out that it was provoked.

This isn't going to go over well with you guys but Malone is not a dirty player. Check his stats. He doesn't go head hunting or engage in the rough stuff. I didn't see the game and so I can't comment on his actions. His presence this afternoon would not have mattered as we mailed it in against NU. But Sean is a skill forward, not a goon. Don't characterize him as such based on one game. I think it has more to do with Harvard's lack of regular season success against the Eli. Notice I said regular season. :)

By the way, I have a ton of respect for O'Gara and I'm looking forward to what he can do for the Bruins. Not saying he will be the second coming of Gostisbehere but he is a heck of a player.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Neither one of those guys are dirty players. Just two kids getting caught up in a huge game. I'm sure neither one of them is proud of what went down, but sh*t happens, they are both paying the penalty.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

This is the text from the ECAC website.

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/harvard/20160802_Malone_Suspension

ALBANY, N.Y. -- ECAC Hockey today announced that Harvard junior forward Sean Malone has been assessed a one-game suspension, in accordance with the League’s supplemental discipline process, as the result of his actions in the Harvard vs. Yale contest Saturday, February 6.

The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in the third period in the Crimson-Bulldogs contest.

Based upon the League’s action, Mr. Malone is not eligible to compete in Harvard’s next contest - Monday, February 8 when the Crimson face Northeastern.

I 100% agree with this decision. The refs missed the call on Malone and there is absolutely ZERO place for that kind of hit in the game. I would hope that Donato would have sat him regardless of whether the league acted or not.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

I 100% agree with this decision. The refs missed the call on Malone and there is absolutely ZERO place for that kind of hit in the game. I would hope that Donato would have sat him regardless of whether the league acted or not.

Wow!!! Just heard that O'Gara rec'd another game suspension (Cornell)... What a joke!! League recognizes that Malone provoked him with his hit that went without a penalty, and gave him a one game suspension but felt the need to give O'Gara another game???!!!! I don't get it!! Malone was back in the game minutes later. What is the rationale for this. O'Gara has NO prior history...!!

I hope to god that the two idiot refs also receive suspensions for letting all this happen!!!!

Total abuse of power by the league. No reason for the addt'l game. They're lucky this kid is even playing in the ECAC this year!!!!
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

It says he is just suspended for one game? Why is he missing Friday and Saturday? Did game misconduct carry automatic suspension for following game?
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

It says he is just suspended for one game? Why is he missing Friday and Saturday? Did game misconduct carry automatic suspension for following game?

The boxscore said it was not a game misconduct, but a game disqualification - that would mean he would miss Friday. Missing Saturday in addition was apparently a league decision. CHN confirms here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2016/02/10_ecac_adds_game_to_ogara_suspension.php
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Donato probably whined long and hard to the league officials. Why did it take them an additional two days after Malone was given his day off, hmmmm. This is certainly a BS suspension.

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- ECAC Hockey today announced that Yale senior defenseman Rob O’Gara has been assessed a one-game suspension, in accordance with the League’s supplemental discipline process, as the result of his actions in the Yale vs. Harvard contest Saturday, February 6.

The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in the third period in the Bulldogs-Crimson contest.

Based upon the League’s action, Mr. O’Gara is not eligible to compete in Yale’s contest Saturday, February 13 when the Bulldogs face Cornell.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

O'Gara was suspended on Monday same time as Malone. Yale appealed the suspension, lost and it was announced today.

Malone got to miss a pretty meaningless beanpot consolation game, we lose OG for 4 big points in NY!
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Donato probably whined long and hard to the league officials. Why did it take them an additional two days after Malone was given his day off, hmmmm. This is certainly a BS suspension.

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- ECAC Hockey today announced that Yale senior defenseman Rob O’Gara has been assessed a one-game suspension, in accordance with the League’s supplemental discipline process, as the result of his actions in the Yale vs. Harvard contest Saturday, February 6.

The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in the third period in the Bulldogs-Crimson contest.

Based upon the League’s action, Mr. O’Gara is not eligible to compete in Yale’s contest Saturday, February 13 when the Bulldogs face Cornell.

That's a cheap shot don't you think? Talk about whining, that's all I'm seeing with these posts. Look I'm not condoning Sean Malone's actions or those of O'Gara. Neither player is dirty as has been noted. But you don't know what Teddy did or didn't do. You're just ticked because O'Gara got more games. Live with it. Hopefully both players will learn from this and move on.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

That's a cheap shot don't you think? Talk about whining, that's all I'm seeing with these posts. Look I'm not condoning Sean Malone's actions or those of O'Gara. Neither player is dirty as has been noted. But you don't know what Teddy did or didn't do. You're just ticked because O'Gara got more games. Live with it. Hopefully both players will learn from this and move on.

Notice the word "probably". Don't you agree that one game each would have been fair enough? Why wouldn't the ECAC announce the suspension on Monday, along with a presser that Yale had appealed. Call it whining, I call it complaining about an injustice that even you admit is true. Yale loses it's best D-Man for two games because of a missed call, the same organization that missed the call and could have prevented further idiocy, now doubles the suspension? By that rational, they should have given Malone two for going after O'Gara twice as the instigator.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Notice the word "probably". Don't you agree that one game each would have been fair enough? Why wouldn't the ECAC announce the suspension on Monday, along with a presser that Yale had appealed. Call it whining, I call it complaining about an injustice that even you admit is true. Yale loses it's best D-Man for two games because of a missed call, the same organization that missed the call and could have prevented further idiocy, now doubles the suspension? By that rational, they should have given Malone two for going after O'Gara twice as the instigator.

The above statement is ridiculous. Yale does not lose its best D-man because of a missed call. Let me simplify:

O'Gara decided to take the law into his hands, and like most decisions that are based on emotion, he is now paying the price. He put himself above the team. Had he done nothing, Malone gets the game (and justifiably so) and he would be playing both games this weekend.

That is the lesson and one that he no doubt will learn from.
 
Notice the word "probably". Don't you agree that one game each would have been fair enough? Why wouldn't the ECAC announce the suspension on Monday, along with a presser that Yale had appealed. Call it whining, I call it complaining about an injustice that even you admit is true. Yale loses it's best D-Man for two games because of a missed call, the same organization that missed the call and could have prevented further idiocy, now doubles the suspension? By that rational, they should have given Malone two for going after O'Gara twice as the instigator.

Can someone post video of the hits?
I came down very hard on O'gara in my prior post for the hit which was right in front of me. Like apparently all the officials I didn't have as good a view of the Malone hit. That being said, if Malone's his was so bad that it resulted in a suspension, I gotta say having been right there for O'gara's the game misconduct was reasonable. The extra game is rediculous for all the reasons stated above.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Notice the word "probably". Don't you agree that one game each would have been fair enough? Why wouldn't the ECAC announce the suspension on Monday, along with a presser that Yale had appealed. Call it whining, I call it complaining about an injustice that even you admit is true. Yale loses it's best D-Man for two games because of a missed call, the same organization that missed the call and could have prevented further idiocy, now doubles the suspension? By that rational, they should have given Malone two for going after O'Gara twice as the instigator.

I noticed. I didn't see the game so I can't comment on specifics about who did what and when. All I can say is that I know both players are not goons or cheap shot artists. That isn't who they are. The ECAC's officiating has been less than stellar for many years and isn't getting better any time soon. Until and unless they start to do something about this type of play, you'll see more of it. We had a similar problem up at Cornell a few weeks ago and we lost two players during that game (Newell is still out). The ECAC saw fit to do nothing about it. Complaining gets you nowhere fast. It's up to the schools to petition for changes to the ECAC hierarchy and rule book to assure that this nonsense isn't perpetuated going forward.
 
Re: Yale Bulldogs 2015-2016 season. Lets get offensive!

Malone got to miss a pretty meaningless beanpot consolation game, we lose OG for 4 big points in NY!

I'm wondering what the thinking is here. If this was an ECAC suspension, shouldn't he have to sit out an ECAC game?
 
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