World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

[Deleted member 3166]

Our strength is in the midfield, you play to your strengths. Possess the ball so you limit your opponents chances and create enough that you eventually convert.

But hey, your strategy of giving up the ball and negating the teams strength in favor of one relying upon the two biggest weaknesses will totally work.

Our strength in finishing is in counter attacking. Possession means nothing without scoring. I'd rather push for goals and lose than sit back and hope for a 0-0 draw.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Everyone during the group stages: “It was an obvious mistake to stop possessing the ball and go defensive and try to protect a lead.”

FTLT: “What if we did that the whole time!?!”

Ah yes ..the soccer ref ripping anyone who disagrees as per usual.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Our strength in finishing is in counter attacking. Possession means nothing without scoring. I'd rather push for goals and lose than sit back and hope for a 0-0 draw.

Ah yes ..the soccer ref ripping anyone who disagrees as per usual.

In what way did in any of the 360 minutes played scream “counter attacking team”? The times they tried that strategy it failed miserably (and that was against Wales and Iran).

I’m not ripping anyone who disagrees, I’m the ripping the person who didn’t say a word all tournament and then suddenly comes in at the end and trots out their tired “they should’ve counter attacked” schtick despite a mountain of evidence that it doesn’t work.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

In what way did in any of the 360 minutes played scream “counter attacking team”? The times they tried that strategy it failed miserably (and that was against Wales and Iran).

I’m not ripping anyone who disagrees, I’m the ripping the person who didn’t say a word all tournament and then suddenly comes in at the end and trots out their tired “they should’ve counter attacked” schtick despite a mountain of evidence that it doesn’t work.

Maybe it's me...but I saw all our goals as counter attacking not breaking down and possession so your mountain of evidence seems to be lacking...and I didn't realize I had to be here the whole tourney in order to be allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Maybe it's me...but I saw all our goals as counter attacking not breaking down and possession so your mountain of evidence seems to be lacking...and I didn't realize I had to be here the whole tourney in order to be allowed to have an opinion.

Tim Weah’s goal was off of winning a Wales long ball, Sargent getting a pass that he fumbled directly to Pulisic and Pulisic actually passing for once.

Pulisic’s goal was off an 11 pass sequence where the ball largely started from the GK Matt Turner.

Haji Wright’s goal was off of a recycle pass from a botched corner kick.

Weah’s goal is the closest to a “counter attack” and that still involved the midfield passing the ball up field.

Honestly, you’re just trolling at this point (and I’m falling for it).

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Tim Weah’s goal was off of winning a Wales long ball, Sargent getting a pass that he fumbled directly to Pulisic and Pulisic actually passing for once.

Pulisic’s goal was off an 11 pass sequence where the ball largely started from the GK Matt Turner.

Haji Wright’s goal was off of a recycle pass from a botched corner kick.

Weah’s goal is the closest to a “counter attack” and that still involved the midfield passing the ball up field.

Honestly, you’re just trolling at this point (and I’m falling for it).

Ok...maybe not full counter attacking which I don't think needs to be just breakaways...but at least pressing...not just possession and trying to breakdown defenders in the box. Maybe I just see the game different from you and that's ok. And I'm not trolling...sorry you see disagreement as that. And you can easily not "fall for it"

 

[Jimjamesak]

Ok...maybe not full counter attacking which I don't think needs to be just breakaways...but at least pressing...not just possession and trying to breakdown defenders in the box. Maybe I just see the game different from you and that's ok. And I'm not trolling...sorry you see disagreement as that. And you can easily not "fall for it"

Even by loosening up your definition (pressing is not counter attacking), that’s still not what lead to the goals. You’re not “disagreeing”, you’re just trying to hammer home a solution despite being presented a mountain of evidence that your solution won’t work. You’re not “seeing things differently”, you’re seeing things wrong and trying to shape them to prove your point.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Even by loosening up your definition (pressing is not counter attacking), that’s still not what lead to the goals. You’re not “disagreeing”, you’re just trying to hammer home a solution despite being presented a mountain of evidence that your solution won’t work. You’re not “seeing things differently”, you’re seeing things wrong and trying to shape them to prove your point.

Then I just won't post.. I dont think Berhalter or his tactics are right..you do. Oh well. Be happy.

And you still haven't presented a mountain of evidence of anything...but you do you.

 

[unofan]

And it still would have ended with the same result. I'd rather play a style that gives us a better chance to win by scoring than one that hopes you can stop team from doing it when it always seems inevitable with our defense.

Tactics and strategy didn't give up 3 goals today. The inability to mark guys in the box did. If you leave people open by 5 yards in every direction they're gonna score.

We had our chances and couldn't convert, and then we had 3 massive collapses on defense that they didn't Rooney.

This particular game wasn't on the coach.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Then I just won't post.. I dont think Berhalter or his tactics are right..you do. Oh well. Be happy.

If you’re going to argue a point then bring some evidence to prove it, don’t suddenly burst in and go “we should’ve counter attacked!” and get all butthurt and cry conspiracy because someone said “you’re wrong and this is why”.

 

[Jimjamesak]

In actual World Cup news, Messi beats Australia 2-1. 10 Argentinians also spotted on the field.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

If you’re going to argue a point then bring some evidence to prove it, don’t suddenly burst in and go “we should’ve counter attacked!” and get all butthurt and cry conspiracy because someone said “you’re wrong and this is why”.

Not doing any of that ..but again...you do you. If I'm wrong fine...but your evidence is lacking. Again...maybe I'm not fully getting all of counter attacking and I mean something else and that's on me. But the possession and trying to break down teams doesn't work IMO because we don't have the players for it.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

Tactics and strategy didn't give up 3 goals today. The inability to mark guys in the box did. If you leave people open by 5 yards in every direction they're gonna score.

We had our chances and couldn't convert, and then we had 3 massive collapses on defense that they didn't Rooney.

This particular game wasn't on the coach.

One thing I'd say is on the coach is starting Ferreira...he was God awful.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Not doing any of that ..but again...you do you. If I'm wrong fine...but you're evidence is lacking. Again...maybe I'm not fully getting all of counter attacking and I mean something else and that's on me. But the possession and trying to break down teams doesn't work IMO because we don't have the players for it.

“You’re wrong because I say you’re wrong but I’m not going to do or say anything to prove it.”

 

[Jimjamesak]

One thing I'd say is on the coach is starting Ferreira...he was God awful.

Sargent was injured, Wright was awful when he played against Iran, who else do you start?

If you want to go with the “he should’ve brought X” then there are counters to that argument as well.

Or are you just trying to find a stick to bash Berhalter with?

 

[Deleted member 3166]

“You’re wrong because I say you’re wrong but I’m not going to do or say anything to prove it.”

You could try not being a jackass...but that seems hard for you.
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As for starting someone else ...Reyna would have been fine.

 

[Jimjamesak]

You could try not being a *******...but that seems hard for you.
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As for starting someone else ...Reyna would have been fine.

You could also not try bringing up the same tired argument every time you post in this thread but here we are.

And Reyna did nothing for the 45 minutes he was out there and is also not a forward.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

You could also not try bringing up the same tired argument every time you post in this thread but here we are.

And Reyna did nothing for the 45 minutes he was out there and is also not a forward.

They come around every six months and fight. It’s their thing. Then they disappear

 

[Jimjamesak]

They come around every six months and fight. It’s their thing. Then they disappear

It was therapeutic to dunk on them as they're basically every dumb USMNT online discussion distilled into a singular person.

 

[Deleted member 3166]

You could also not try bringing up the same tired argument every time you post in this thread but here we are.

And Reyna did nothing for the 45 minutes he was out there and is also not a forward.

You could also not respond...but you just can't help "proving" you're right. And Reyna was listed as a forward on our roster...so there's that.
But your lips are firmly planted on Berhalter's and US soccer management's butt...