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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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Jimjamesak said:
Bruce Arena said one thing best: “qualifying is for the vets, the World Cup is for the kids.”
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Is Qualifying for vets because the rounds are widely separated and there's less continuity for the kids to gel together? I'm trying to understand why both are not for the kids.
 
Kepler said:
Is Qualifying for vets because the rounds are widely separated and there's less continuity for the kids to gel together? I'm trying to understand why both are not for the kids.
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Because CONCACAF qualifying is a fucking warzone.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Remember when we made Mexico play in the middle of a blizzard purely as retaliation? That fucked hard.
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That was very funny. Didn't we do some Patriots-grade cheating in that game, too?

But I'm still a little confused. If the qualifiers are rough, wouldn't you want your young, strong, fast kids in there all the more, or are you throwing veterans into the buzz saw and if they get hurt whatevs?
 
RaceBoarder said:
No one thinks that the America East champ has a chance against Kentucky either ;-)
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As a lifelong Hoosier fan living in Big Blue Nation for over a decade, outside of Watford hitting the 3 to beat #1 Kentucky 73-72 in 2012*, Kentucky losing to St. Peter is #2 on my list of favorite Kentucky schadenfreude moments. The tears were plentiful and delicious on March 18, 2022.
*Kentucky defeating Indiana 102-90 on the way to their 8th national title later that same year, a game which saw the Wildcats make a ridiculous 35-37 of their FTs, not included in schadenfreude moments.
 
Kepler said:
That was very funny. Didn't we do some Patriots-grade cheating in that game, too?

But I'm still a little confused. If the qualifiers are rough, wouldn't you want your young, strong, fast kids in there all the more, or are you throwing veterans into the buzz saw and if they get hurt whatevs?
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Qualifying is a completely different animal. Main difference is that many of the venues are truly hostile environments (both actual playing conditions AND fan environments). It can easily break a bunch of 20-somethings. Although the World Cup is the bigger stage, the fields are always pristine and modern and the crowds are sanitized.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Qualifying is a completely different animal. Main difference is that many of the venues are truly hostile environments (both actual playing conditions AND fan environments). It can easily break a bunch of 20-somethings. Although the World Cup is the bigger stage, the fields are always pristine and modern and the crowds are sanitized.
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This. I’d add that the officiating is drastically different too.

Yunus Musah summed it up in an interview.
 
I don’t see how that was offsides on the possible third Moroccan goal. They didn’t show a freeze frame graphic but it looked like the only person possibly offsides didn’t get involved in the play and it was only his arm, which I thought didn’t count anyway because it’s not a legal playable body part.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I don’t see how that was offsides on the possible third Moroccan goal. They didn’t show a freeze frame graphic but it looked like the only person possibly offsides didn’t get involved in the play and it was only his arm, which I thought didn’t count anyway because it’s not a legal playable body part.
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Edit: It was offside. I missed the last half of the play. Everyone keeps putting it up as the initial pass into the box.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
Then you’ve got this “offsides” in the Croatia game. If both players are breaking the imaginary wall then it probably shouldn’t be offsides.

https://twitter.com/foxsoccer/status/1598336912343076865?s=46&t=LNsU1ZaI2b-35GJdQtoxLg
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That's getting too nitpicky for my taste. He was substantially even with the defender. BUT, if you want to take the subjectivity out of the game and go to an objective call, then yeah, he was offsides. Even if it was a fraction of a shoulder. LIterally an inch.

I don't know how you transition from subjective calls to objective calls without taking the natural feeling out of the game. You just have to adjust and realize, yeah, he was objectively offsides. I hate that we're down to fractions of an inch but that's the consequence of eliminating "bad" calls.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
That's getting too nitpicky for my taste. He was substantially even with the defender. BUT, if you want to take the subjectivity out of the game and go to an objective call, then yeah, he was offsides. Even if it was a fraction of a shoulder. LIterally an inch.

I don't know how you transition from subjective calls to objective calls without taking the natural feeling out of the game. You just have to adjust and realize, yeah, he was objectively offsides. I hate that we're down to fractions of an inch but that's the consequence of eliminating "bad" calls.
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But is that even his shoulder? It looks to be the same part of the arm as the Belgium defender, just at a different angle.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
But is that even his shoulder? It looks to be the same part of the arm as the Belgium defender, just at a different angle.
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I don't think it's the same. The arm is defined basically as the armpit down. THe shoulder is not part of the arm.
The "outside corner" of croatia's shoulder is beyond that same part of Belgium's
 
I didn’t realize Belgium needed a win coming into today. Even if Canada somehow comes back, Belgium would need Canada to win like 6-2 to overcome to the tiebreakers.
 
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