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World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

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Jimjamesak said:
Bit of deep cut on my part. I don’t know if it exists elsewhere but, in the US, it’s traditional for the referee who gives the first red card of a tournament to buy all the referees ice cream (a cheap variety pack of bars or cones is acceptable). If it’s a small group and everyone is of age then a round of drinks is acceptable too.
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That is awesome! Thanks.
 
Jimjamesak said:
A US loss today means they would need a win over Iran along with Wales either not winning against England or Wales winning but not making up the goal difference.
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Yes. Takes a lot of pressure off today's game.

I think Wales (without their top GK) beating England...and doing so by multiple goals...is highly unlikely. Realistically, so long as the US don't get their doors blown off today, a win over Iran is likely all that is necessary to advance. Of course, if the US knocks off both Iran and England, USA will finish top in the group and likely avoid Netherlands in the second round.
 
Jimjamesak, as to the offside call on the Ecuador goal before half, how much influence on the gk (if any) is necessary? Is it purely a judgment call? The keeper was already diving to his right when the ball was deflected.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Jimjamesak, as to the offside call on the Ecuador goal before half, how much influence on the gk (if any) is necessary? Is it purely a judgment call? The keeper was already diving to his right when the ball was deflected.
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In this case the offside call is correct because the Ecuador player was in the line of sight of the GK on the initial shot before the deflection. Stuff like this is kind of a judgement call (“interfering with an opponent”) but when the player is in front of the GK it’s pretty easy.
 
Jimjamesak said:
In this case the offside call is correct because the Ecuador player was in the line of sight of the GK on the initial shot before the deflection. Stuff like this is kind of a judgement call (“interfering with an opponent”) but when the player is in front of the GK it’s pretty easy.
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Interesting. So if the player was in an onside (but still in line of sight) position at the initial shot, the keeper starts going to the right, then the player moves into the offside (but no longer in line of sight) position at the time of deflection, still offside?

Also, as an aside, if there was any concerns that the refs were paid off by Qatar, that call should dispel such concerns. Qatar needs Ecuador to win this match to have any hope at advancement.
 
Peak USMNT was 92 years ago.

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One of the group tie breakers: Disciplinary points ('Fair Play'): As per a FIFA formula based on yellow and red cards. The team that has accumulated the fewest of these over the course of the group stage comes out ahead if this tiebreaker is used.
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Second yellow card/Indirect red card
Straight red card
Yellow card and straight red card

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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Interesting. So if the player was in an onside (but still in line of sight) position at the initial shot, the keeper starts going to the right, then the player moves into the offside (but no longer in line of sight) position at the time of deflection, still offside?

Also, as an aside, if there was any concerns that the refs were paid off by Qatar, that call should dispel such concerns. Qatar needs Ecuador to win this match to have any hope at advancement.
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In that case it wouldn’t be offside because he’s not in an offside position when interfering with the GK’s line of sight.

Offside is really tricky.
 
Drew S. said:
Would like to see the lads be solid at the back today and not pick up any knocks. Don’t think winning big is super important.
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One final thought…Rob Green is working the game on 5 live and I hope after a convincing win England dedicate the performance to him.
 
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