ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Japan just got leveled by a monster (goal).
Japan just got leveled by a monster (goal).
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World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?
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FlagDUDE08
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WNY Flash steal another draw, this time Brittany Taylor in the 89th. HST.
WNY Flash steal another draw, this time Brittany Taylor in the 89th. HST.
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as much as they suck right now, i'd be pretty surprised if that happens. anyway, have they fired their coach yet now that they are eliminated from confederations cup?
On the cup, tuned in with Italy up 3-2 on Japan. Man, I was very, very impressed with the possession/confidence/skill of Japan. Italy scored the winner against the run of play and even after that, Japan really pressured. That is one dangerous team.
As for the US, someone help me out in regard to Donovan. Has he had a falling out with Klinsmann? Is he just too old now? What's the deal? I haven't been following him closely but fully expected him to still be an integral part of the team we field in Brazil.
Most encouraging thing for the US in recent competitive games has been keeping the opposition of the board. It has been and still is the biggest question mark for me going forward. I don't trust the defense, but I am at least encouraged.
as much as they suck right now, i'd be pretty surprised if that happens. anyway, have they fired their coach yet now that they are eliminated from confederations cup?
On the cup, tuned in with Italy up 3-2 on Japan. Man, I was very, very impressed with the possession/confidence/skill of Japan. Italy scored the winner against the run of play and even after that, Japan really pressured. That is one dangerous team.
As for the US, someone help me out in regard to Donovan. Has he had a falling out with Klinsmann? Is he just too old now? What's the deal? I haven't been following him closely but fully expected him to still be an integral part of the team we field in Brazil.
Most encouraging thing for the US in recent competitive games has been keeping the opposition of the board. It has been and still is the biggest question mark for me going forward. I don't trust the defense, but I am at least encouraged.
FlagDUDE08
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We seem to be doing just fine without Donovan. What's the issue?
We seem to be doing just fine without Donovan. What's the issue?
jmh
win or lose, we booze
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Eh. I mean, it's nice and all, but we're talking about home matches against Panama and Honduras. It wasn't all that long ago that we gave up seven goals across two matches at home against Belgium and Germany. I'm still not really sold on Cameron and Beasley as defenders, and I think Klinsmann hasn't really given Goodson a shot. That being said, qualifying is the thing and we're well on our way.
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Donovan took a sabbatical from soccer last year. He's still playing his way back into shape. As Shirtless noted earlier, he is on the preliminary roster for the Gold Cup.
Basically, Klinsman has called out the best players, including Dempsey ("he hasn't won anything yet") and Altidore (benched him and even dropped him from the roster for awhile). Both of them have responded by stepping up their level of play. If Donovan wants back in, he also will have to step up his level of play. If he does that, then Klinsman will welcome him back, but Donovan has to earn his way back, he can't be included merely because of his reputation and past contributions. No more "above-average mediocrity." It remains to be seen if Donovan still has the fire in the belly that he'll have to have if he wants to be a part of this team. It would be a huge plus if he does.
Regarding our defense, I like our two central defenders as a long-term work in progress. I think Goodson and F Johnson as outside defenders are probably our strongest in those slots. Don't forget that Gonzalez and Besler are young and quite inexperienced at the international level. While I am nervous about them now, they keep getting better with every game they play together. Don't forget that they game up huge in Mexico and really earned the clean sheet there. I fully expect our defense to be much more solid come 2014.
Donovan took a sabbatical from soccer last year. He's still playing his way back into shape. As Shirtless noted earlier, he is on the preliminary roster for the Gold Cup.
Basically, Klinsman has called out the best players, including Dempsey ("he hasn't won anything yet") and Altidore (benched him and even dropped him from the roster for awhile). Both of them have responded by stepping up their level of play. If Donovan wants back in, he also will have to step up his level of play. If he does that, then Klinsman will welcome him back, but Donovan has to earn his way back, he can't be included merely because of his reputation and past contributions. No more "above-average mediocrity." It remains to be seen if Donovan still has the fire in the belly that he'll have to have if he wants to be a part of this team. It would be a huge plus if he does.
Regarding our defense, I like our two central defenders as a long-term work in progress. I think Goodson and F Johnson as outside defenders are probably our strongest in those slots. Don't forget that Gonzalez and Besler are young and quite inexperienced at the international level. While I am nervous about them now, they keep getting better with every game they play together. Don't forget that they game up huge in Mexico and really earned the clean sheet there. I fully expect our defense to be much more solid come 2014.
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Probably not per se, but JK has a history of putting his stamp on the team. Particularly after the Straus blow-up, he may feel like he needs to make a point about commitment to the team.
Probably not per se, but JK has a history of putting his stamp on the team. Particularly after the Straus blow-up, he may feel like he needs to make a point about commitment to the team.
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Good article in today's WSJ on USMNT progress to date, and what still remains to be done:
What I find most exciting is that there appears to be so much more upside potential, that the team is not very far along yet compared to where it could eventually end up.
Win CONCACEF? pft, seems to be the attitude. who cares about that? Get out of our pool in Brazil? pft, will be the attitude, who cares about that?
Good article in today's WSJ on USMNT progress to date, and what still remains to be done:
What I find most exciting is that there appears to be so much more upside potential, that the team is not very far along yet compared to where it could eventually end up.
Win CONCACEF? pft, seems to be the attitude. who cares about that? Get out of our pool in Brazil? pft, will be the attitude, who cares about that?
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Shirtless Guy
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Sigh, Confederations Cup 2013 makes me think about the 2009 edition and how much hope that gave us for the 2010 World Cup. Woulda Coulda, Shoulda...always wonder what 2010 would have been like if Charlie Davies had made a few better decisions.
Sigh, Confederations Cup 2013 makes me think about the 2009 edition and how much hope that gave us for the 2010 World Cup. Woulda Coulda, Shoulda...always wonder what 2010 would have been like if Charlie Davies had made a few better decisions.
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Yeah, Russia likely bought the 2018 World Cup, but they're a country that should be able to pull it off decently. Qatar?? Give me a fooking break!!! The Euro fans are going to hate the idea of having to go to a match Sober. Not to mention its going to be too **** hot there.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Aaaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite.
Aaaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite.
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Spain only beat Tahiti 10-0.
Spain only beat Tahiti 10-0.
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Abby shattered the record tonight with four first half goals vs South Korea and establishing a new international mark for goals with 160 and counting. The woman she passed, Mia Hamm, just released this statement:
Abby shattered the record tonight with four first half goals vs South Korea and establishing a new international mark for goals with 160 and counting. The woman she passed, Mia Hamm, just released this statement:
I don't understand this logic. Just because you're doing just fine doesn't mean you can't do better. And fwiw I'm not even saying they would be better with him.
MountieBoyOz
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I can wrap my head around the fact Russia got it, but England had the better bid from what sources say. However, Platini and FIFA seem to have an axe to grind against England. Let's not forget that if the English didn't invent the game, Platini wouldn't have made all the money he's made.
But you're dead on about Qatar. They want a winter Cup to compete with the Super Bowl? That's insane. The thought of no drinking is idiotic and where are they going to house all these games? I do think the U.S. might get the call late if more holes are punched into Qatar's ability to host. We are prepared on short notice to house these games if stuff happens. I would like to experience a World Cup sooner rather than later in America.
I can wrap my head around the fact Russia got it, but England had the better bid from what sources say. However, Platini and FIFA seem to have an axe to grind against England. Let's not forget that if the English didn't invent the game, Platini wouldn't have made all the money he's made.
But you're dead on about Qatar. They want a winter Cup to compete with the Super Bowl? That's insane. The thought of no drinking is idiotic and where are they going to house all these games? I do think the U.S. might get the call late if more holes are punched into Qatar's ability to host. We are prepared on short notice to house these games if stuff happens. I would like to experience a World Cup sooner rather than later in America.
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It's not like we haven't hosted in a long time. 1994 isn't that long ago in that regard. Since then:
France
South Korea
Germany
South Africa
And I'm sure there are other big nations who want to host and haven't done so in a longer time.
It's not like we haven't hosted in a long time. 1994 isn't that long ago in that regard. Since then:
France
South Korea
Germany
South Africa
And I'm sure there are other big nations who want to host and haven't done so in a longer time.
This recent run has improved the outlook, hopefully his methods and motivations work well over time as well.
While we weren't playing our top 11, Belgium kicked our butts. I dare say they might go undefeated in our qualifying group.
Germany wasn't playing their top 11.
There is much to be optimistic about...the downside of World Cup is it takes 4 years to measure progress...unless we use the Olympics and other tourneys in between to help gauge progress.
Until the US has 1-2 players that can turn a game, scoring individual goals, making plays that pull 3 points out of a tie or get us a key point when we are outplayed we will be a well funded, well supported and well marketed team well outside the top 10 in the world.
That is better than being outside the top 20 and we are making progress to get to that point.
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I've always wondered what US soccer might have been like if our best athletes had gravitated to la joga bonito.
Bill Russell as goalie. Jim Brown as central defender. Michael Jordan as striker, imagine some of those headers! LeBron James in central midfield. RGIII on right wing. etc.
I've always wondered what US soccer might have been like if our best athletes had gravitated to la joga bonito.
Bill Russell as goalie. Jim Brown as central defender. Michael Jordan as striker, imagine some of those headers! LeBron James in central midfield. RGIII on right wing. etc.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?
To put it another way, since we've hosted:
1998 - UEFA
2002 - AFC
2006 - UEFA
2010 - CAF
2014 - CONMEBOL
2018 - UEFA
2022 - AFC
So, assuming no hosting changes, each of the other 4 major conferences will have hosted a World Cup since CONCACAF, including UEFA doing it three times (no surprise), and Asia twice. 2026 should be a slam dunk for CONCACAF to host.
Also, for those with World Cup fever, the U-20 World Cup began today. USA is in perhaps the group of death (Spain, France, and Ghana), and plays Spain today (right about now actually). Games are on ESPN3.
To put it another way, since we've hosted:
1998 - UEFA
2002 - AFC
2006 - UEFA
2010 - CAF
2014 - CONMEBOL
2018 - UEFA
2022 - AFC
So, assuming no hosting changes, each of the other 4 major conferences will have hosted a World Cup since CONCACAF, including UEFA doing it three times (no surprise), and Asia twice. 2026 should be a slam dunk for CONCACAF to host.
Also, for those with World Cup fever, the U-20 World Cup began today. USA is in perhaps the group of death (Spain, France, and Ghana), and plays Spain today (right about now actually). Games are on ESPN3.
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