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World Soccer XVIII: A New Season

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Well, an extension isn't the worst thing in the world, especially if Klinsmann wasn't interested or affordable.

4 years though?! If you want to extend him, why not until after the Gold Cup, or even until summer of 2012, after the Euros, when a new manager might be available.
 
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Not looking good now for Arsenal getting the keeper they need. Arsene knows, but . . . .
 
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blockski said:
From a comment on Goff's blog:
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Somehow, a completely mistaken meme developed that Bradley's team was defensively-oriented or defense-first. It's completely contrary to the facts, and yet the Adu fanboi crowd persists in pushing it.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Well, an extension isn't the worst thing in the world, especially if Klinsmann wasn't interested or affordable.

4 years though?! If you want to extend him, why not until after the Gold Cup, or even until summer of 2012, after the Euros, when a new manager might be available.
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Bradley would be crazy to take only two more years. There's absolutely nothing major for the U.S. in two years (the big stuff is the Gold Cup next year, qualifying and maybe Confeds Cup in 2013, and the World Cup in 2014).
 
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WeWantMore said:
Well, an extension isn't the worst thing in the world, especially if Klinsmann wasn't interested or affordable.

4 years though?! If you want to extend him, why not until after the Gold Cup, or even until summer of 2012, after the Euros, when a new manager might be available.
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I'm assuming they wanted him, he wasn't that expensive and he said he wanted a 4 year commitment.

Simple question: Is Bob Bradley thought of as a better coach right now than Bruce Arena was after the US' run to the quarterfinals in the 2002 World Cup?
 
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Craig P. said:
Somehow, a completely mistaken meme developed that Bradley's team was defensively-oriented or defense-first. It's completely contrary to the facts, and yet the Adu fanboi crowd persists in pushing it.
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Well, I wouldn't get hung up on the phrasing, but for as strong as the performance was at the WC, it was remarkable due to the intestinal fortitude rather than the actual quality of play.

Bradley's bigger problem is that his tactical decisions don't seem to shift given personnel. He kept trying to go to the formula that worked for the Confederations Cup, except that he didn't have the horses to do it without Davies.

Hell, in the Confederations Cup, he didn't have the horses to do it until he was forced into attacking in the last group stage game, needing at least 3 goals and a big win from Brazil.
 
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Craig P. said:
Bradley would be crazy to take only two more years. There's absolutely nothing major for the U.S. in two years (the big stuff is the Gold Cup next year, qualifying and maybe Confeds Cup in 2013, and the World Cup in 2014).
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Right, but the USSF shouldn't have to cater to Bradley. Just because he wanted 4 years doesn't mean he needed to be given 4 years.
 
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Groups of 8 meaning a 14-match double-round-robin? Long qualifying schedule.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Right, but the USSF shouldn't have to cater to Bradley. Just because he wanted 4 years doesn't mean he needed to be given 4 years.
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No matter who they got (unless it was an interim appointment), it was going to be for four years. That's not catering to Bradley, that's the reality of every national team outside of Europe being on a four-year cycle.
 
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This will change obviously, but here's the top 16 teams from last time around:

Group 1
Mexico
Costa Rica
Panama
Jamaica
Haiti
Canada
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Suriname
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Group 2
U.S.A.
Honduras
Trinidad and Tobago
Cuba
Guatemala
Guyana
Barbados
Bermuda
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WeWantMore said:
Is it really any longer, or just shifted around?
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Well, currently - the top teams get a bye into the second round, a home and home series. (2). Those that advance move on to 4 team groups, home and home (6), and then the Hex (10).

So, that's 24 teams -> 12 -> 6, meaning you'd need at least one more set of games to get to 16, rather than 24...
 
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Craig P. said:
No matter who they got (unless it was an interim appointment), it was going to be for four years. That's not catering to Bradley, that's the reality of every national team outside of Europe being on a four-year cycle.
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If it were me, I would have offered Bradley 2 more years, take it or leave it. If he leaves it, I go interim. Just me though.
 
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New CONCACAF qualifying = joke.

We better win the '11 Gold Cup, because that's the only way we're going to get serious competition between now and 2014.
 
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WeWantMore said:
If it were me, I would have offered Bradley 2 more years, take it or leave it. If he leaves it, I go interim. Just me though.
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And if I were Bradley and the offer was for 2 years (regardless of the money), I'd walk.

If the USSF wants flexibility, then you negotiate that in the buyout provisions - but the contract has to be for 4 years.
 
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