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World Soccer XII: South Africa Awaits

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In Freddy's favor, it appears that he's finally getting some serious high-level instruction at Aris in Greece. I hope for his sake it lasts through next season as well. If he's still only 20, he's still got some mental maturing and it could all click for him. He's the type of player that doesn't really come into his own until around 25 (also see Valderrama, Riquelme).
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
One, we're not sure he's 20. Two, we can't look at a guy's age here because he's not the typical 20 year old. He's been getting the best coaching for the last 5 years. Are we really comparing him to a 20 year old who is in college right now?

That guy has been brought along slowly. Adu on the other hand...
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The solution is simple: Cut him in half and count his rings.
 
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I saw that Sochaux wrote a letter to Bob Bradley to ask Charlie Davies not to play. I think it's selfish on the club's part. Davies worked his tail off to get back for the cup, but the club basically cut him off at the knees. I know Sochaux is trying to protect their investment, but let him at least get asked to camp. Bradley doesn't have to select him, but don't kill his dream.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
I saw that Sochaux wrote a letter to Bob Bradley to ask Charlie Davies not to play. I think it's selfish on the club's part. Davies worked his tail off to get back for the cup, but the club basically cut him off at the knees. I know Sochaux is trying to protect their investment, but let him at least get asked to camp. Bradley doesn't have to select him, but don't kill his dream.
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There have been a few discussions on here about the club v. national issue regarding injury, insurance etc. It is a tough one to make black and white.

If the letter was unsolicited (I'd really like to see the actual letter to understand the context) then I feel one way, if Bradley asked for an update then I don't think he should have referrenced it when informing Davies.

If Sochaux thought that Davies was truly not ready at this time and trying to rapidly get to WC form would jeopardize his recovery then I guess they were within their rights to protect their investment.

If Bradley thought Davies was worthy and the only reason to keep him off was that letter, then why didn't Bradley overrule it? Seems like he failed a basic leadership test...he is in charge, if Davies is not to be on the team it is Bradley's decision, dont' blame it on some other guy.

If he wanted to know the condition of Davies, he could have performed several other methods of verification...if the letter said Charlie was in great form would Bradley have automatically put him on the roster?

So, in my opinion, sochaux is suspected but not guilty until the letter and the cause for its existence is better known...Bradley is wrong to pass the buck or to depend solely on a letter from a club that can't be counted on to have the USMNT interest at heart and Davies isn't helping his cause...he screwed up, he shouldn't blame anybody but himself for being in this situation...if it was his dream now then it should have been his dream the night he got into that car.
 
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If it's anything like business, you make sure to never give any sort of review information that could then be interpreted to have hurt a career -- that's a one-way ticket to Litigationland.

I'd think the national team would just have physicals as a matter of course and make their own judgment.
 
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I guess I don't have a problem with Sochaux writing the letter, they paid for him, they have to protect their investment. My problem lies with Bradley using the letter as justification for leaving him off the team. I think that's a decision that should be made by US trainers and US coaches alone.

Now, it's possible the letter wasn't an influencing factor in Bradley's decision, and then that raises a 2nd issue. If it wasn't a factor, why would Bradley say that it was? Man up, grow a pair, and take responsibility yourself.
 
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I'd have no problem with Sochaux writing the letter. It's their opinion. However, Bradley should have weighed it evenly with other things like trainers, Davies himself and the staff. Bradley should man up and give a legit reason. He should have named him to the prelim squad and went from there.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
I'd have no problem with Sochaux writing the letter. It's their opinion. However, Bradley should have weighed it evenly with other things like trainers, Davies himself and the staff. Bradley should man up and give a legit reason. He should have named him to the prelim squad and went from there.
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He has a legit reason - Davies' injury. Charlie himself admits he's not at 100%. Even if he can get to 100% by the WC (as in 100% recovered from his injuries), he certainly won't be game fit, limiting his potential role to that of a late-game sub - to say nothing of shaking the rust off his game, having not played in a competitive match since the crash.

I can understand why Davies would be upset, I'd be upset too. But I also can't fault Bradley for leaving him off the 30. Even if he made the 30, I can't see him making the 23.
 
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Jozy Altidore sits in on a meeting in Bristol...

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MountieBoyOz said:
I'd have no problem with Sochaux writing the letter. It's their opinion. However, Bradley should have weighed it evenly with other things like trainers, Davies himself and the staff.
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By his own statement, that's what Bradley did.

Bradley should man up and give a legit reason.
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He did. Weighing all of the information available (including but by no means limited to Sochaux's input), he didn't think Charlie would be ready and it would be better for his rehab for him not to be pushing to try to make the roster.

He should have named him to the prelim squad and went from there.
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If Bradley didn't think there was a good chance of Charlie being ready, I couldn't disagree with you more.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Looking way down the line at the 2018 World Cup, the US presented their bid proposal today.
Steve Goff provides some details:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2010/05/bill_clinton_world_cup_bid_sir.html
-Initial draw in NYC
-Finals draw in Miami
-First game in Dallas

Like I said, a ways away, but I don't necessarily like opening up in Dallas.
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2018 will almost certainly go to Europe. The US is bidding against the rest of the world for 2022.
 
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Chelsea win the double, but you have to feel awful for Kevin Prince-Boateng. That was a terrible miss.
 
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WeWantMore said:
Half of them won't be rooting for the US...

Plus, let's see FC Dallas draw more than 8,000 fans a game before we go awarding Dallas a showpiece event.
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We're talking about the World Cup, thats a little different than FC Dallas. I'd go do Dallas for the opening match!
 
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What are the chances they could alter the starting venue to say a new stadium built in Greater Los Angeles for the LA Jaguars?

I know its been referenced that the Bay Area and Chicago could be added as host cities later in the process after the bid is awarded.
 
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