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World Soccer X: Duh, duh, duh, duh...The Champions!

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Terrierbyassociation said:
Have you seen the wreckage? He's lucky to even be in one piece.
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True that, a few broken bones and a lacerated bladder is pretty **** lucky thats all he has to deal with considering that the car was in 2 pieces after the wreck. He might not be able to play soccer again, but at least he'll be able to get up and walk around with his kids and what not.
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
I know Blocksi and maybe a few other DC area boarders are going to the game. This is apparently the show of support planned:

http://theshinguardian.com/2009/10/13/get-up-the-9th-minute-salute-for-chuck-deezy/
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Sounds like a great idea.
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This Notts County deal just reads like a sitcom. This week's ridiculous story is that Sven is fending off an offer to manage North Korea in the World Cup. I laughed for five minutes after reading that one.
 
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Peter Crouch scores one of his lanky, goofy goals 4 minutes in for England.

In games that matter, Ukraine beat Andorra 6-0, clinching a playoff spot.

Ongoing:

Switzerland 0 - Israel 0
Greece 2 - Luxembourg 0

Switzerland are through with a tie. Greece can pass them if they win and Israel win. Israel needs a big Luxembourg comeback and a win over Switzerland to make the playoffs.

Poland 0 - Slovakia 1
San Marino 0 - Slovenia 1
Czech Rep 0 - Northern Ireland 0

This group remains a mess, but if Slovakia hang on they are through. If they lose or tie, Slovenia will be through (assuming their win over San Marino). The Czechs and the Northern Irish are mathematically alive for the playoffs, but reliant on San Marino. So, not happening.

Portugal 1 - Malta 0
Sweden 1 - Albania 0

As fun as it would have been to see Portugal go home, a win over Malta gets them a playoff spot.

And in an "its funny when powers have nothing to play for" department:

Germany 1 - Finland 1 (FT)
Azerbaijan 1 - Russia 1 (FT)
Italy 0 - Cyprus 2 (53')
 
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Portugal is now 2 up and one of two England nemeses won't be in SA no matter what as Sweden cannot possibly make up the ground to qualify for the playoff.
 
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England scores a second, what a terrible goalkeeping angle.

SWP with a simple shot right at the net.
 
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With the 6 pots (A-F) used to determine the groups for UEFA, based on World Rankings, it is interesting the breakdown of the results
Pot A (1-9)
4 have qualified, 3 are in the play-off, 2 are eliminated (Czech Republic & Croatia)

Pot B (10-18)
1 has qualified (England), 1 is in the play-off (Russia), 8 are elimnated

Pot C (19-27)
3 have qualified (Denmark, Switzerland, Serbia), 2 are in the play-off (Ukraine & Ireland), 1 finished 2nd but was the lowest 2nd place team (Norway) and 3 are elimnated

Pot D (28-36)
1 has qualified (Slovakia), 1 is in the play-off (Bosnia & Herzegovina), the rest are elimnated

Pots E & F (37-53)
1 is in the play-off (Slovenia [Pot E]), the rest are elimnated

So somewhat surprisingly the Pot B teams faired far worse than the Pot C teams and Pots D and E actually had some success...
 
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I know it wouldn't work for most confederations, but I really like the structure of the CONMEBOL qualification process. There's admirable simplicity and fairness in just throwing everyone into one group, playing a full home-and-home round-robin over the course of two years, and letting the chips fall where they may.
 
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jmh said:
I know it wouldn't work for most confederations, but I really like the structure of the CONMEBOL qualification process. There's admirable simplicity and fairness in just throwing everyone into one group, playing a full home-and-home round-robin over the course of two years, and letting the chips fall where they may.
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it makes it easier when 4.5 of the 10 teams qualify ;)
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
So Ireland can still make the World Cup?

That's tremendous.
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Yeah, but apparently FIFA and UEFA changed the playoff setup before this latest pair of games and the playoffs will now be seeded, so Ireland still has an uphill battle.
 
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CONMEBOL can play the system they play because they have the right number of teams in the confederation to do it.

Failing that, I think that both CONCACAF and AFC have the best system, playing down to manageable group sizes that cut out the minnows and qualify a reasonable proportion of the final group.

CAF's setup is awful, with only four team groups where only the group winners qualify. UEFA's is marginally better, but UEFA would really benefit if they had an initial stage that knocked out the San Marinos, Andorras, and Foroyars so that the groups that produce the qualifiers come down to more than four or five games.

Rolevio said:
Yeah, but apparently FIFA and UEFA changed the playoff setup before this latest pair of games and the playoffs will now be seeded, so Ireland still has an uphill battle.
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They were seeded in '06 as well.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
it makes it easier when 4.5 of the 10 teams qualify ;)
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Heh, I guess so. I'm not saying it's particularly easy or difficult, in any case, I'm just saying it's a very fair process without much luck of the draw involved.

So Slovakia, who qualified earlier today, will be making their first-ever trip to the World Cup. Other countries that might potentially make their first-ever appearance include:

Gabon, if they overcome a one point/-2 GD deficit behind Cameroon to win Group A of the CAF qualifiers (Cameroon is at Morocco on the last day of qualifying on 11/14, while Gabon is at Togo)

Bahrain, if they win the AFC-OFC playoff against New Zealand (the first leg was a 0-0 draw in Bahrain; the second leg will be played in New Zealand on 11/14)

Bosnia and Herzegovina, if they win their home-and-home playoff, to be held on 11/14 and 11/18, against one of France, Portugal, Russia and Greece (draw to be held on 10/19)

Venezuela, if, later tonight, they finish fifth in CONMEBOL qualifying by winning in Brazil, and Argentina wins in Uruguay, and Ecuador loses or ties in Chile, and they make up huge GD deficits against Uruguay and Ecuador (read: not going to happen), and then they win the CONCACAF-CONMEBOL playoff against either Costa Rica or Honduras.

Also, North Korea will make their first appearance in the World Cup since 1966. Other countries still alive to return after a long absence include Greece (1994), Algeria (1986), Egypt (1990), Honduras and New Zealand (both 1982).
 
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Craig P. said:
CONMEBOL can play the system they play because they have the right number of teams in the confederation to do it.

Failing that, I think that both CONCACAF and AFC have the best system, playing down to manageable group sizes that cut out the minnows and qualify a reasonable proportion of the final group.

CAF's setup is awful, with only four team groups where only the group winners qualify. UEFA's is marginally better, but UEFA would really benefit if they had an initial stage that knocked out the San Marinos, Andorras, and Foroyars so that the groups that produce the qualifiers come down to more than four or five games.
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I think CAF's format is fine.

Round 1 was a head to head among the six lowest ranked teams: Madagascar 10-2 aggregate over Comoros, Sierra Leone 1-0 over Guinea-Bissau and Djibouti 1-0 over whatever Somalia could round up.

Round 2 was 12 four team groups, with the group winners and 8 best runners-up moving on.

Round 3 is 5 four team groups.
 
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Craig P. said:
CONMEBOL can play the system they play because they have the right number of teams in the confederation to do it.
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Well, right, obviously it works because they're the right size, and because they don't have any really really weak minnows to weed out. I'm not saying UEFA should go to the same setup, obviously, I'm just saying I like how it works for them.
 
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jmh said:
Well, right, obviously it works because they're the right size, and because they don't have any really really weak minnows to weed out. I'm not saying UEFA should go to the same setup, obviously, I'm just saying I like how it works for them.
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well maybe if they allowed suriname and guyana :p
 
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