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World Soccer X: Duh, duh, duh, duh...The Champions!

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Here's my first crack at a mock draw:

Pool A
Manchester United
Real Madrid
Stuttgart
Unirea Urziceni

Pool B
Sevilla
CSKA Moscow
Fiorentina
VfL Wolfsburg

Pool C
Arsenal
Porto
Dynamo Kiev
Debreceni

Pool D
Chelsea
Olympique Lyonnais
Olympiakos
APOEL Nicosia

Pool E
Bayern Munich
AZ Alkmaar
Olympique Marseilles
Standard Liege

Pool F
AC Milan
Rangers
Girondins Bordeaux
FC Rubin Kazan

Pool G
Barcelona
Juventus
Besiktas
FC Zurich

Pool H
Liverpool
Inter Milan
Athletico Madrid
Maccabi Haifa
 
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Bob Gray said:
I was a little surprised to see Rangers creep into the second pot. I don't recall seeing them that high before.
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Thank you Fiorentina.....had they not scored a goal to even things with Lisbon, the Portuguese side would have gone through and been in the second pot, putting Rangers back in the third.

3W said:
(The draw is) tomorrow, at about noon EST, if I did the conversion right.
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You are, and it'll be televised live on FSC.
 
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I'll be rooting for the Germans, the French, and whoever is playing Rangers. Oh and screw Eduardo, not that the result would've been different without the scumbag's dive.
 
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I have just found out I get ESPN360. There seems to be quite a few games on there. Very exciting.
 
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3W said:
That is one hell of a trip.
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Yeah, it's the furthest East team in the Russian League. It's about as far as you can have to travel in a UEFA competition, as far as I can figure. (Unless you were coming from further south, I guess.) Five time zones is a lot of time zones.

Ugly 1-0 loss is enough to go through 3-2 on aggregate. I'll take it. :o
 
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Watching the CL draw on uefa.com. Milan and Madrid together in one group. Sevilla and Rangers as top two seeds in another! I'm pretty happy with Arsenal getting AZ Alkmaar as their #2 seed.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Watching the CL draw on uefa.com. Milan and Madrid together in one group. Sevilla and Rangers as top two seeds in another! I'm pretty happy with Arsenal getting AZ Alkmaar as their #2 seed.
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Not that you can get a "good" opponent out of the top pool, but I'm glad Rangers has avoided the English teams.
 
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ManU should get through easily, but they do have to travel to Moscow and Turkey!
 
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Bob Gray said:
Watching the CL draw on uefa.com. Milan and Madrid together in one group. Sevilla and Rangers as top two seeds in another! I'm pretty happy with Arsenal getting AZ Alkmaar as their #2 seed.
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Unfortunate. Rangers just got the "weakest" top seed imho. Hopefully that group gets a quality 3 and 4 seed.

And I'd love to see more of this. Diving is a much a stain on the game as violent challenges or off the ball incidents:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/soccer/08/27/eduardo.ap/index.html

I hope FIFA can change the laws of the game to allow retroactive Red Cards in certain situations. I obviously have a rooting interest in this particular incident, but I'd prefer the procedure be standardized to kill the incentive to dive in the first place. You won't stop players from going down when light contact is involved, but this will hopefully kill some of the more blatant con jobs.
 
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From the BBC:

Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard
 
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Bob Gray said:
Watching the CL draw on uefa.com. Milan and Madrid together in one group. Sevilla and Rangers as top two seeds in another! I'm pretty happy with Arsenal getting AZ Alkmaar as their #2 seed.
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Huh, and here I thought only Manchester United ever got a good draw. You mean it really IS random?

Interesting to see Barcelona and Inter grouped together after swapping forwards this summer.
 
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And Arsenal get Standard as their fourth team. No complaints from me.

I think with the new qualifying round method, which weeds out a few more bigger league teams, the group stages will be a bit more predictable. A number of the 4th pot teams I haven't even heard of before.
 
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jmh said:
Huh, and here I thought only Manchester United ever got a good draw. You mean it really IS random?

Interesting to see Barcelona and Inter grouped together after swapping forwards this summer.
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United don't have a tough draw from the standpoint of winning their group, but they do have a bit of traveling to do, and got the toughest Pot 4 team, Wolfsburg, last season's German champion.

Barca and Inter are probably the most interesting matchup at this stage.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Group of death?
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I don't think there's a clear one, as there often is. Milan and Madrid were shaping up as a possible group of death, but Marseille and Zurich don't exactly scream out Group of Death.
 
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