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World Cup 2018: The best party money could buy (until 2022)!

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Shirtless Guy said:
thats on the Ref for poor timing on letting the Senegal player on the field...how is the Poland guy suppose to know he's back?
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Yeah I mean I know little about the rule details, but that's screwed up. It's like if in hockey the ref just let someone out of the penalty box at a random time and got a breakaway.
 
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French Rage said:
Yeah I mean I know little about the rule details, but that's screwed up. It's like if in hockey the ref just let someone out of the penalty box at a random time and got a breakaway.
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basically yeah...horrible timing by the ref.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
thats on the Ref for poor timing on letting the Senegal player on the field...how is the Poland guy suppose to know he's back?
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It looked like the ref waved him on just before the pass back. Probably should've waited until they had set up deeper in the Senegal zone, but that was a perfect storm.
 
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Senegal is my Timbers stand-in. Go Lions!

Belgium, Iceland, Senegal so far. The only guys I really wish ill on are Russia.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It looked like the ref waved him on just before the pass back. Probably should've waited until they had set up deeper in the Senegal zone, but that was a perfect storm.
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This is what I saw. Poland heads the ball up field 20 yards, referee waves player on (from the half line where he’s supposed to be), Senegal clears ball out, Poland passes back. There’s no way the referee is at fault there.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
This is what I saw. Poland heads the ball up field 20 yards, referee waves player on (from the half line where he’s supposed to be), Senegal clears ball out, Poland passes back. There’s no way the referee is at fault there.
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so just a perfect storm? Just seems crappy. I'm not sure how the DM is suppose to realize that guy is back on at that exact moment?
 
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What is a FIFA Match Commissioner?
The role of the FIFA commissioner as FIFA's official representative at a match is of paramount importance. He is the authority responsible for ensuring that the match is properly organised and runs smoothly. The commissioner shall be absolutely objective and his behaviour invariably reflect this principle.
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Jimjamesak said:
Perfect storm and not paying attention by the Polish defense.
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Great analysis for once from Dr Joe. The confusion was because Poland forgot there was both an injured player waiting to come back and a substitution waiting to happen.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
This is what I saw. Poland heads the ball up field 20 yards, referee waves player on (from the half line where he’s supposed to be), Senegal clears ball out, Poland passes back. There’s no way the referee is at fault there.
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Incorrect. The referee should not be waiving a player on behind the opposition's outside back and even with the last defender. It is incumbent on the official to ensure play has either stopped or has transitioned toward the middle third so the player is entering into the relative middle of the opposition's formation.
 
Stauber1 said:
Incorrect. The referee should not be waiving a player on behind the opposition's outside back and even with the last defender. It is incumbent on the official to ensure play has either stopped or has transitioned toward the middle third so the player is entering into the relative middle of the opposition's formation.
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Oh **** off, play was moving towards that Senegal’s goal, in the middle third, almost the attacking third, and the player was at midfield when the referee waved him on. It’s not the referee’s fault the Polish player decided to play the ball back and the Polish defense forgot that player existed.

What do you want the referee to do? Politely ask the Polish left back to move backwards so he can wave the player on? :rolleyes:
 
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A player doesn't have a right to enter the field at any point they want, and the opposition is not obligated to adjust their play in order to accommodate the reentry.
The referee should not be bringing a player on behind the defense of the opposition. Period. It was a mistake by the official.

EDIT: That isn't to say Poland weren't guilty of failing to maintain awareness. This is exactly why you preach awareness and focus in sports: weird things happen, refs make mistakes, etc.
But you can say both that the ref screwed up AND that Poland needed to be more aware - these aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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Stauber1 said:
A player doesn't have a right to enter the field at any point they want, and the opposition is not obligated to adjust their play in order to accommodate the reentry.
The referee should not be bringing a player on behind the defense of the opposition. Period. It was a mistake by the official.
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So basically you want a team to play down player until they a) have possession and b) said possession must be in the attacking third, all because a player needed treatment? No.

Maybe if the Polish midfielder doesn’t karate kick that ball 10 yards past his defense that goal doesn’t happen, how about that?
 
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Jimjamesak said:
So basically you want a team to play down player until they a) have possession and b) said possession must be in the attacking third, all because a player needed treatment? No.

Maybe if the Polish midfielder doesn’t karate kick that ball 10 yards past his defense that goal doesn’t happen, how about that?
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That's not it at all. The player should enter into the relative middle of the oppositon's formation, not behind their defense. It's that simple. The referee has the discretion to hold the player off the field until an appropriate time as so the entering player does not gain an advantage. The referee did not exercise that discretion in this case. I really don't understand how you can argue that.
 
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