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Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
You say that Wisconsin should offer a small program (in Minnesota) a 1:1 deal.
Good for the goose... Which "small program" is Minnesota giving a 1:1 deal to?
You lost. Again. As always.
Coz... that's what you do. You lose.
See above
You say that Wisconsin should offer a small program (in Minnesota) a 1:1 deal.
Good for the goose... Which "small program" is Minnesota giving a 1:1 deal to?
You lost. Again. As always.
Coz... that's what you do. You lose.
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JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
You say that Wisconsin should offer a small program (in Minnesota) a 1:1 deal.
Good for the goose... Which "small program" is Minnesota giving a 1:1 deal to?
You lost. Again. As always.
Coz... you're a loser and that's what losers do. They lose.
Minnesota is providing revenue on a yearly basis to 4 smaller former conference members. UW is providing revenue to no former conference members.
Give it a few days and it will sink in. Perhaps you can draw yourself a chart
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Sharing revenue does not make it a 1:1 deal no matter how many times you say it.
Simple fact is, MN will be in the arenas of SCSU, BSU, MSUM and UMD 1 time every 4 years.
It may benefit the smaller schools, but it is not now, nor will it ever be a 1:1.
Minnesota is providing revenue on a yearly basis to 4 smaller former conference members. UW is providing revenue to no former conference members.
Give it a few days and it will sink in. Perhaps you can draw yourself a chart
Sharing revenue does not make it a 1:1 deal no matter how many times you say it.
Simple fact is, MN will be in the arenas of SCSU, BSU, MSUM and UMD 1 time every 4 years.
It may benefit the smaller schools, but it is not now, nor will it ever be a 1:1.
JDUBBS1280
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I never called it a 1:1
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Chuck, is there a reason most of the Canadians are from the Western part and not Ontario? I know the OHL is much stronger/deeper than the Q and WHL, but still you would think there would be a few every once in a while. Our last recruit from Ontario (of memory) worked out quite well for UW.
Chuck, is there a reason most of the Canadians are from the Western part and not Ontario? I know the OHL is much stronger/deeper than the Q and WHL, but still you would think there would be a few every once in a while. Our last recruit from Ontario (of memory) worked out quite well for UW.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Well, you know... aside from all those ongoing deals to continue playing North Dakota, Colorado College, Denver and Northern Michigan. And aside from the deals that were offered to Michigan Tech, UMD and SCSU. But other than those seven former conference members (you have to go back a ways for NMU, but still), UW is doing absolutely nothing!
ScoobyDoo
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
To be honest with Barry's love for all things Big 10 and Big 10 Network I'm personally shocked they're doing anything. And, personally, I wouldn't blame them one bit if they didn't do anything.
To be honest with Barry's love for all things Big 10 and Big 10 Network I'm personally shocked they're doing anything. And, personally, I wouldn't blame them one bit if they didn't do anything.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
To be fair, if you look at who we have scheduled and who we tried to schedule, it's certainly the top end in terms of program strength and history. I'm sure we weren't/aren't scheduling these teams out of the goodness of our heart.
To be fair, if you look at who we have scheduled and who we tried to schedule, it's certainly the top end in terms of program strength and history. I'm sure we weren't/aren't scheduling these teams out of the goodness of our heart.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
How many programs in the new WCHA? You know, the programs in dire need of the revenue? I am honestly surprised you are condoning them running the program like they would run football Exiled. I thought you knew better than that.
If you'd look past this being a slight against UW and put it in terms of UW is a significant enough program to matter in this regard and make a difference, perhaps you'd see where I am coming from.
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
As soon as Minnesota agrees to a 1 for 1....please come back into our recruiting thread and do tell us all about it. When are the rodents scheduling Huntsville (who is on our schedule AGAIN this year) who as an independent is actually teetering on extinction?
As soon as Minnesota agrees to a 1 for 1....please come back into our recruiting thread and do tell us all about it. When are the rodents scheduling Huntsville (who is on our schedule AGAIN this year) who as an independent is actually teetering on extinction?
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Minnesota is doing it's part to bring yearly revenue to these schools.
If UW doesn't want to do a single 1:1 rotation, perhaps they can agree to play two two former conference teams who are now in the WCHA every year and split the revenue from some of their home games with those teams. Sounds like that is more digestible to you
I'll give you the option between the two. Chose whichever you want.
OPTION 1
YEAR 1: Play Away Series
YEAR 2: Play Home Series
YEAR 3: OFF
YEAR 4: OFF
OPTION 2
YEAR 1: Play Home Series (Split Revenue)
YEAR 2: Play 2 Home Series (Split Revenue 1 Series)
YEAR 3: Play Home Series (Split Revenue)
YEAR 4: Play Away Series
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Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Wisconsin has obviously gotten some outstanding players out of Ontario, with guys like Brendan Smith and Cody Goloubef being some of the most recent. Obviously they worked out very well. I haven't done a breakdown on numbers of players coming to NCAA hockey from what province, but I think you're probably correct most come from Western Canada. Traditionally, the British Columbia Hockey League has been the strongest non-major junior league in Canada. Why is that? I don't know. But I think the combination of stronger franchises in the BCHL (compared to other non-major junior leagues in Canada) which is an NCAA feeder league, and the OHL being (arguably) the best major junior league equates to more NCAA players coming from Western Canada.
Wisconsin has obviously gotten some outstanding players out of Ontario, with guys like Brendan Smith and Cody Goloubef being some of the most recent. Obviously they worked out very well. I haven't done a breakdown on numbers of players coming to NCAA hockey from what province, but I think you're probably correct most come from Western Canada. Traditionally, the British Columbia Hockey League has been the strongest non-major junior league in Canada. Why is that? I don't know. But I think the combination of stronger franchises in the BCHL (compared to other non-major junior leagues in Canada) which is an NCAA feeder league, and the OHL being (arguably) the best major junior league equates to more NCAA players coming from Western Canada.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Or maybe we leave the "saving the State of hockey" to the flagship school in the state?
Minnesota is doing it's part to bring yearly revenue to these schools.
If UW doesn't want to do a single 1:1 rotation, perhaps they can agree to play two two former conference teams who are now in the WCHA every year and split the revenue from some of their home games with those teams. Sounds like that is more digestible to you
Or maybe we leave the "saving the State of hockey" to the flagship school in the state?
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Who said you had to play one of the MN schools? How about Tech? And so you're indifferent to whether programs fold? That won't have any impact on UW hockey?
What would your position have been had Minnesota, Michigan, Denver, Tech (whom you're now too good to play) told UW to go pound sand when UW wanted to join the conference after a 30 year hiatus back in the day? Serious question.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Thanks, I forgot about those two being from Ontario. I think the OHL teams are a bit more aggressive when it comes to bringing in players they have drafted. The OHL teams/players also get much much more exposure in Canada than teams in the Q and out in WHL. It is probably close to the "east coast bias" here in US. The Toronto Metro is arguably the biggest hockey market in the world. That may have a role in the decision to stay in the area. These things are just interesting to follow.
Thanks, I forgot about those two being from Ontario. I think the OHL teams are a bit more aggressive when it comes to bringing in players they have drafted. The OHL teams/players also get much much more exposure in Canada than teams in the Q and out in WHL. It is probably close to the "east coast bias" here in US. The Toronto Metro is arguably the biggest hockey market in the world. That may have a role in the decision to stay in the area. These things are just interesting to follow.
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solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Miami of Ohio has a more difficult time getting minnesotans because MSHSL kids have options such as: Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Denver, CC as their top 5 NCAA destinations. so unless you have kid who has family that went to another school like say Notre Dame, good luck to Miami or anyone else recruiting MN, when you waltz into the state and are at best 6th on the list you won't get results
Miami of Ohio has a more difficult time getting minnesotans because MSHSL kids have options such as: Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Denver, CC as their top 5 NCAA destinations. so unless you have kid who has family that went to another school like say Notre Dame, good luck to Miami or anyone else recruiting MN, when you waltz into the state and are at best 6th on the list you won't get results
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
As soon as Minnesota schedules Huntsville, we'll talk about "saving" programs on life support. Way to keep moving the goalpost...trolling 101. Why has Minnesota not played Army in recent history? How about answer the other question already asked....how often did the flagship program in the state of hockey play Bemidji before they got forced down everyone's throat in the WCHA and watered down the conference and schedule?
As soon as Minnesota schedules Huntsville, we'll talk about "saving" programs on life support. Way to keep moving the goalpost...trolling 101. Why has Minnesota not played Army in recent history? How about answer the other question already asked....how often did the flagship program in the state of hockey play Bemidji before they got forced down everyone's throat in the WCHA and watered down the conference and schedule?
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