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Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
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solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
god you're beyond compare
#1 - what part of the annual attendance leader figures have you missed out on in the last 30-40 years? 1st place maybe? UW doesn't need football to sell hockey. if you want football fans to come to the games, well then maybe, but UW has plenty of hockey fans (though some have soured recently and may not return).
UW has dominated the overall attendance figures going back to before I started watching in 1984
#2 - really? the gophers don't need UW? cool, go ahead and schedule RIT, QU, Huntsville and Vermont and see what transpires attendance-wise
god you're beyond compare
#1 - what part of the annual attendance leader figures have you missed out on in the last 30-40 years? 1st place maybe? UW doesn't need football to sell hockey. if you want football fans to come to the games, well then maybe, but UW has plenty of hockey fans (though some have soured recently and may not return).
UW has dominated the overall attendance figures going back to before I started watching in 1984
#2 - really? the gophers don't need UW? cool, go ahead and schedule RIT, QU, Huntsville and Vermont and see what transpires attendance-wise
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
You have ONE division 1 program in-state, less games on TV, and an arena with a larger capacity, and the Gophers STILL pull in more revenue than UW. I think attendance at UW this year demonstrated how much people really care about hockey.
And if UW wasn't on our schedule, that means we'd have to schedule RIT, QU, Huntsville, etc???? How about BC, BU, Notre Dame, etc...
Trust me, it would hurt UW FAR, FAR, FAR worse than it would ever hurt the Gophers. And if you guys only care about yourselves and you don't want to help our smaller fellow conference mates, I'd love to see the Gophers return the favor and shun you guys. Too bad we can't.
Ok, probably not the place for this discussion. Just my two cents. I'll move on.
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Your adopted program is basically a one-sport school sitting in the middle of the so-called "state of hockey" which supposedly has the cream of the crop of young players who supposedly grow up want to be gophers, yet the team has been a huge underperformer since the 70s with the exception of a two-year burp when a couple of NoDaks let the team to NCs, while UW has won more NCs, outdraws UMinn in fans, and does not have a reputation for fans who come late, leave early, and sit on their hands while they are there.
Your grip is way too tight Dubber. Relax and enjoy the game. You might hit a few fairways.
Your adopted program is basically a one-sport school sitting in the middle of the so-called "state of hockey" which supposedly has the cream of the crop of young players who supposedly grow up want to be gophers, yet the team has been a huge underperformer since the 70s with the exception of a two-year burp when a couple of NoDaks let the team to NCs, while UW has won more NCs, outdraws UMinn in fans, and does not have a reputation for fans who come late, leave early, and sit on their hands while they are there.
Your grip is way too tight Dubber. Relax and enjoy the game. You might hit a few fairways.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Hey, it's been even longer since your favorite program has won it all, so I suppose it hasn't done squat since 2000 then either, ha?
And let's not get into a discussion of whom is reliant upon whom's talent to win. Without Minnesotans playing at NoDak, doubtful that program would even be D1.
I respect UND though. I doubt they feel too good to play the likes of Mankato and Bemidji moving forward. I respect that. North Dakota is also near the top of the list as a state when it comes to kids registered to play the sport per capita. Not in the middle of the list like Wisconsin. There is actually a hockey culture in North Dakota. I respect that too.
Winning NC's takes more than talent. It takes a good deal of luck and great timing. UW has had more of that and thus finished their opportunities better than Minnesota. They fall well short of Minnesota in conference hardware and Frozen fours, though which tells me they haven't fielded good teams nearly as often.
I have far less issues with UW as I do with the mentality that the program should only be out to help itself and not give back to college hockey by playing the smaller schools who are reliant upon games with the bigger programs to stay a float.
The Badgers folded their program at one time, so Badger fans should realize this importance as much as anyone.
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Please move on like you said....before you wrote another book on hockey history.
I find it funny you care so much about Wisconsin hockey.
Hey, it's been even longer since your favorite program has won it all, so I suppose it hasn't done squat since 2000 then either, ha?
And let's not get into a discussion of whom is reliant upon whom's talent to win. Without Minnesotans playing at NoDak, doubtful that program would even be D1.
I respect UND though. I doubt they feel too good to play the likes of Mankato and Bemidji moving forward. I respect that. North Dakota is also near the top of the list as a state when it comes to kids registered to play the sport per capita. Not in the middle of the list like Wisconsin. There is actually a hockey culture in North Dakota. I respect that too.
Winning NC's takes more than talent. It takes a good deal of luck and great timing. UW has had more of that and thus finished their opportunities better than Minnesota. They fall well short of Minnesota in conference hardware and Frozen fours, though which tells me they haven't fielded good teams nearly as often.
I have far less issues with UW as I do with the mentality that the program should only be out to help itself and not give back to college hockey by playing the smaller schools who are reliant upon games with the bigger programs to stay a float.
The Badgers folded their program at one time, so Badger fans should realize this importance as much as anyone.
Please move on like you said....before you wrote another book on hockey history.
I find it funny you care so much about Wisconsin hockey.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Don't be mistaken, I care about the schools your program is refusing to play.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Do you really think the Gophers care about playing the other Minnesota schools? If they had their way and didn't care about what people around the State would say about them. They would not schedule Bemidji or St Cloud cuz they would rather play better programs. But they feel like the big bro to these schools and have to play them. Gopher hockey is a farse!
Do you really think the Gophers care about playing the other Minnesota schools? If they had their way and didn't care about what people around the State would say about them. They would not schedule Bemidji or St Cloud cuz they would rather play better programs. But they feel like the big bro to these schools and have to play them. Gopher hockey is a farse!
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
I think the Gophers have a long history of caring about those programs. Mariucci encouraged and helped UMD move to D1. Herb Brooks helped move SCSU to D1. And Don Lucia was instrumental in getting Bemidji State accepted into the WCHA. And if you have read any of Lucia's comments since the BTHC was announced, you'd know that Minnesota realizes the importance of keeping these schools a float.
The Gophers are going to continue to play all those programs and even gave up two home games a year to play in the Minnesota Tournament. Not saying Wisconsin should go to the same lengths, but not scheduling these schools anymore period is a blatant disrespect for the game. I hope it has the negative impact on recruiting for Wisconsin in Minnesota I think it will and only wish the Gophers could leave Wisconsin off their schedule because of this.
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Stop drinking the Lucia kool aid! He'll say anything to please you Minnesota zombies. Behind closed doors and not within ear shot of the minny walking dead. He couldn't care less but will schedule teams like Bemidji to make sure they get a couple wins a season. He was quoted as saying "you don't want to schedule yourself out of a job"
Stop drinking the Lucia kool aid! He'll say anything to please you Minnesota zombies. Behind closed doors and not within ear shot of the minny walking dead. He couldn't care less but will schedule teams like Bemidji to make sure they get a couple wins a season. He was quoted as saying "you don't want to schedule yourself out of a job"
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
LOL! Why would he need to look for cupcakes when we get UW, OSU, and PSU each 4 times a year?
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Speaking of Big John, is it true he was born with genitalia shaped exactly like a gopher? Instead of circumcision, he had the teeth removed.
Speaking of Big John, is it true he was born with genitalia shaped exactly like a gopher? Instead of circumcision, he had the teeth removed.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Not sure. Not at all interested in what other men's genitalia looks like. No offense Burd. Not judging.
badgerhawk
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
Don't be confused about who some posters on this board are saying they don't care to watch UW play, and who the Badgers are refusing to play. I don't think the UW has said they are refusing to play anyone.
Don't be confused about who some posters on this board are saying they don't care to watch UW play, and who the Badgers are refusing to play. I don't think the UW has said they are refusing to play anyone.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Don't be confused about who some posters on this board are saying they don't care to watch UW play, and who the Badgers are refusing to play. I don't think the UW has said they are refusing to play anyone.
Hope you're right. I really do.
solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
no man really, Barry Alvarez and Mike Eaves have both stated repeatedly in public they only want to play a revolving schedule of Michigan, Minnesota, MSU, tOSU, PSU, Nodak, BC, BU and have stated no other school cuts it, the rest are too small, and don't have "history" on their side (insert roll eyes here)
seriously get a life. do you see any UW posters flaming in Minnesota threads?
no man really, Barry Alvarez and Mike Eaves have both stated repeatedly in public they only want to play a revolving schedule of Michigan, Minnesota, MSU, tOSU, PSU, Nodak, BC, BU and have stated no other school cuts it, the rest are too small, and don't have "history" on their side (insert roll eyes here)
seriously get a life. do you see any UW posters flaming in Minnesota threads?
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Some people here have made it sound as though visiting the smaller schools they used to share a conference with will indeed be a thing of the past.
Are you saying you think UW will visit Mankato or Bemidji in the near future? If so, that's great. And I hope you sincerely do realize that it would be a good thing for college hockey. I have my doubts that some here do.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse
In fact, Eaves actions have spoken load and clear. There was a reason PSU in their first season of D1 was on Wisconsins schedule....Eaves. Alabama-Huntsville has also been lent a helping hand by being scheduled when they were in a tough spot without a conference. Now if you expect UW hockey to be run as a non-profit charitable institution solely for proping up the little sisters of Minnesota state university system...you'll be sadly mistaken. It is hardly shocking that UW would want 2:1 home games to play some schools as has been rumored. Hell...taking this beyond a UW issue....some schools in D1 hockey will have an extremely difficult time getting ANY home games against most of the D1 powers. BC, Michigan, Minnesota, nor UW is going to play a game at Huntsville any time soon. There is a difference between lending a helping hand and bad business.
In fact, Eaves actions have spoken load and clear. There was a reason PSU in their first season of D1 was on Wisconsins schedule....Eaves. Alabama-Huntsville has also been lent a helping hand by being scheduled when they were in a tough spot without a conference. Now if you expect UW hockey to be run as a non-profit charitable institution solely for proping up the little sisters of Minnesota state university system...you'll be sadly mistaken. It is hardly shocking that UW would want 2:1 home games to play some schools as has been rumored. Hell...taking this beyond a UW issue....some schools in D1 hockey will have an extremely difficult time getting ANY home games against most of the D1 powers. BC, Michigan, Minnesota, nor UW is going to play a game at Huntsville any time soon. There is a difference between lending a helping hand and bad business.
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JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
I don't think anyone has suggested UW be run as a non-profit. I don't think anyone would even reasonably expect UW to give up home games to schedule these schools.
That said, the comment of yours that I originally replied to seemed to suggest that you'd prefer to never see UW play Mankato or Bemidji State again.
Sounds to me like you are upset Mankato and Bemidji were given a home in the WCHA, would have preferred to never have had to play them, and don't want to see them on UW's schedule now.
Is that interpretation incorrect? And why are none of the smaller former WCHA schools on your schedule for next year? What are Eaves plans to schedule them?
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