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Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Did I miss something recent on JD? If he were leaving, why didn't he just leave last year if he was going to? I assume his issues were beyond injury related and he could have jumped to the OHL at any point instead of sticking it out at UW and resume playing after the semester break.
Minus the twins, I see us at only 7 guys I would want to see playing D regularly baring injury. It shouldn't be that difficult to keep everyone somewhat satisfied with playing time, especially when you mix in World Junior tourney absences and that even in a fortunate year when it comes to injuries, there will still be bumps and bruises.
Did I miss something recent on JD? If he were leaving, why didn't he just leave last year if he was going to? I assume his issues were beyond injury related and he could have jumped to the OHL at any point instead of sticking it out at UW and resume playing after the semester break.
Minus the twins, I see us at only 7 guys I would want to see playing D regularly baring injury. It shouldn't be that difficult to keep everyone somewhat satisfied with playing time, especially when you mix in World Junior tourney absences and that even in a fortunate year when it comes to injuries, there will still be bumps and bruises.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
I'd say the reason he didn't leave last year is he owes his Mom (she's awesome) a college degree. That is why he didn't go to Canada and why he came here in the first place. I'd guess that would be why he's going USHL instead of to the Plymouth Whalers now too, as he'd certainly be a hot commodity in the CHL. I read somewhere Jordan is back at BU working on his degree in the off season as well. He's all but certainly leaving as there's no way Chicago burns a #1 pick on a 20 year old who's not coming. Looks like he'll be looking for a new school while working on his degree. Although it seems odd that he wouldn't be able to find another offer to play next year in NCAA, doesn't it? There's clearly a lot going on behind the scenes with JD that we're not privy to.
We're down 3 (potentially) drafted D for next year. Normally that would be devastating, but we'll probably be ok. Be really disappointing not to see JD develop here though as every time he played you could see his enormous raw talent and flashes of what he could be.
I'd say the reason he didn't leave last year is he owes his Mom (she's awesome) a college degree. That is why he didn't go to Canada and why he came here in the first place. I'd guess that would be why he's going USHL instead of to the Plymouth Whalers now too, as he'd certainly be a hot commodity in the CHL. I read somewhere Jordan is back at BU working on his degree in the off season as well. He's all but certainly leaving as there's no way Chicago burns a #1 pick on a 20 year old who's not coming. Looks like he'll be looking for a new school while working on his degree. Although it seems odd that he wouldn't be able to find another offer to play next year in NCAA, doesn't it? There's clearly a lot going on behind the scenes with JD that we're not privy to.
We're down 3 (potentially) drafted D for next year. Normally that would be devastating, but we'll probably be ok. Be really disappointing not to see JD develop here though as every time he played you could see his enormous raw talent and flashes of what he could be.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
I put it at about a .001% chance that would happen. Besides, Grant broke his ankle and missed the last half of the season this year. Not sure where his game is at right now.
I'm still for poaching a Pio though as I'm still of the mind that scholarship $$ does no one any good if it isn't deployed. Not sure how much JD would've been getting this year, but there just has to be money in the bank right now.
I put it at about a .001% chance that would happen. Besides, Grant broke his ankle and missed the last half of the season this year. Not sure where his game is at right now.
I'm still for poaching a Pio though as I'm still of the mind that scholarship $$ does no one any good if it isn't deployed. Not sure how much JD would've been getting this year, but there just has to be money in the bank right now.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Agree 100% on JDs potential. He’s a gifted player who just needed some more focus (defensively and in terms of bad penalties).
I’d rather see him get his head straight these next two years, if we can’t poach a quality D from DU (who owes us one by now).
Agree 100% on JDs potential. He’s a gifted player who just needed some more focus (defensively and in terms of bad penalties).
I’d rather see him get his head straight these next two years, if we can’t poach a quality D from DU (who owes us one by now).
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
......and some people think we're recruiting too many. This is why.
......and some people think we're recruiting too many. This is why.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Per Todd D, there are no indications that UW plans to add any more players.
So there was a reason why JD was available so late in the window to to join when he did. A 4 year college isn't for everyone. Looks like G2O almost did too good a job with JD.
This is why the Krygier boys just should have come anyway, being worried about playing time. You never know what is going to happen. Same thing with Jurusik, he'd have been the starter last year had he just stuck it out.
Per Todd D, there are no indications that UW plans to add any more players.
So there was a reason why JD was available so late in the window to to join when he did. A 4 year college isn't for everyone. Looks like G2O almost did too good a job with JD.
This is why the Krygier boys just should have come anyway, being worried about playing time. You never know what is going to happen. Same thing with Jurusik, he'd have been the starter last year had he just stuck it out.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
"There has been no indication yet that UW is planning on adding any more players." Which is almost the same but very slightly different wording. I read that as either Todd didn't ask or Tony wouldn't/didn't comment on whether there would be adds. (As opposed the question being asked and answered in the negative.) There aren't any specific rumors, just speculation on the combination of: players we know may be available plus $$ we know may be available. Somewhat unusual to hear of an add before it's announced by a player at this time of year anyway, and of course, coaches can't comment on unsigned players. So I don't really take that as indicative of anything at all.
As to why JD was available as an 18 year old, I'd speculate he wanted BU, but BU had McAvoy, Hickey, Krys, Fabbro, MacLeod, all top picks plus a couple more and had nowhere to put JD. No doubt he had other offers but by all accounts he was all set to got to the Flint Firebirds... until disaster struck there, (players revolted, owner was suspended for 5 years, league took over the management) no one would really want to walk into that mess -- So Donny talked him into UW, which was a great fit for him at the time. Whatever went wrong for him last summer cost him a top 4 spot in the lineup (he very likely would have been ahead of the Freshmen coming into camp if he was prepared) a shot at the WJ team, and most of his year of playing time/development. If he feels all this has left him on the outside looking in with Oz, I can see why he might want a fresh start. A lot of playing time and a dominating start in the USHL could still get him a WJ shot this year, plus it wouldn't surprise me if the Maple Leafs want him playing every day right now somewhere.
The only thing that I wonder about is this: "UW coach Tony Granato said he spoke with Greenway after Chicago made its selection Tuesday morning and said Greenway was weighing his options" which almost makes it sound like Greenway weighing his options was news to Tony until the Steel drafted him.
"There has been no indication yet that UW is planning on adding any more players." Which is almost the same but very slightly different wording. I read that as either Todd didn't ask or Tony wouldn't/didn't comment on whether there would be adds. (As opposed the question being asked and answered in the negative.) There aren't any specific rumors, just speculation on the combination of: players we know may be available plus $$ we know may be available. Somewhat unusual to hear of an add before it's announced by a player at this time of year anyway, and of course, coaches can't comment on unsigned players. So I don't really take that as indicative of anything at all.
As to why JD was available as an 18 year old, I'd speculate he wanted BU, but BU had McAvoy, Hickey, Krys, Fabbro, MacLeod, all top picks plus a couple more and had nowhere to put JD. No doubt he had other offers but by all accounts he was all set to got to the Flint Firebirds... until disaster struck there, (players revolted, owner was suspended for 5 years, league took over the management) no one would really want to walk into that mess -- So Donny talked him into UW, which was a great fit for him at the time. Whatever went wrong for him last summer cost him a top 4 spot in the lineup (he very likely would have been ahead of the Freshmen coming into camp if he was prepared) a shot at the WJ team, and most of his year of playing time/development. If he feels all this has left him on the outside looking in with Oz, I can see why he might want a fresh start. A lot of playing time and a dominating start in the USHL could still get him a WJ shot this year, plus it wouldn't surprise me if the Maple Leafs want him playing every day right now somewhere.
The only thing that I wonder about is this: "UW coach Tony Granato said he spoke with Greenway after Chicago made its selection Tuesday morning and said Greenway was weighing his options" which almost makes it sound like Greenway weighing his options was news to Tony until the Steel drafted him.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Correct again!
USNTDP team was announced earlier today and as expected includes (at least) 3 future Badgers:
Honey Baked F, Tanner Latsch; Notre Dame Academy D, Daniel Laatsch; and (as DPlaya predicted) Milwaukee Jr. Admirals G, Noah Grannan.
Correct again!
USNTDP team was announced earlier today and as expected includes (at least) 3 future Badgers:
Honey Baked F, Tanner Latsch; Notre Dame Academy D, Daniel Laatsch; and (as DPlaya predicted) Milwaukee Jr. Admirals G, Noah Grannan.
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
It's too quiet on the Russian Goalie Front.
где вы Максим Жуков?
It's too quiet on the Russian Goalie Front.
где вы Максим Жуков?
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Someone tell him that we have pelmeni
Someone tell him that we have pelmeni
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
I'd play for pelmeni! My Maternal Grandparents came here from what was "Czechoslovakia" and my grandmother made a frickin' killer sausage and pelmeni dish. I can taste it now.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Tell him we have plenty of tutors too.
Tell him we have plenty of tutors too.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Since Quinn is now going to NYR, just sayin'...
Since Quinn is now going to NYR, just sayin'...
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
They're all Coasties, but "A" for effort Wisko!
solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Is Cade Lemmer a target for UW?
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/201724/cade-lemmer
Is Cade Lemmer a target for UW?
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/201724/cade-lemmer
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
Right now you wouldn't think of him as a top six kid and there's a glut of F's around him on the books, so you wouldn't think so. But who knows? He has some talent and there's always a few guys like him that jump up and score 50 at the next level. Those aren't really all that common though - Naturally, it's more common that guys go backwards as they go up.
Looks to me like we now do need to add a D or two for '19. Unless there's a dramatic turnaround, Peltonen and Brady Smith aren't looking to me like they're going to fit the bill as high-enders to replace graduates and possible departures. Oz has some work to do there.
Right now you wouldn't think of him as a top six kid and there's a glut of F's around him on the books, so you wouldn't think so. But who knows? He has some talent and there's always a few guys like him that jump up and score 50 at the next level. Those aren't really all that common though - Naturally, it's more common that guys go backwards as they go up.
Looks to me like we now do need to add a D or two for '19. Unless there's a dramatic turnaround, Peltonen and Brady Smith aren't looking to me like they're going to fit the bill as high-enders to replace graduates and possible departures. Oz has some work to do there.
solovsfett
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Got it. My uncle lives in Wausau and was mentioning him as a player to watch
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!
He's a good player. It's easy to lose track though of just how incredibly good you have to be in comparison to the average kid to even make the roster of a D1 team. What I've heard is that he's worth watching but would still have to improve a bunch in comparison to his age group to get on UW's radar. He may very well do so though once he gets in the USHL. So hard to say what happens with these young kids that aren't playing in top leagues. Or even when they are. No doubt that Brady Smith was one of the top Bantam D in the country when he was recruited. Unfortunately it looks like he would still be one of the top Bantam D in the country a few years later.
He's a good player. It's easy to lose track though of just how incredibly good you have to be in comparison to the average kid to even make the roster of a D1 team. What I've heard is that he's worth watching but would still have to improve a bunch in comparison to his age group to get on UW's radar. He may very well do so though once he gets in the USHL. So hard to say what happens with these young kids that aren't playing in top leagues. Or even when they are. No doubt that Brady Smith was one of the top Bantam D in the country when he was recruited. Unfortunately it looks like he would still be one of the top Bantam D in the country a few years later.
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