Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

[DPlaya]

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Krygier twins are now committed to Michigan State and will be going this fall

Saw that on Twitter a while ago while out on the town...interesting. I wonder what the story is? Simply the fact that there is a logjam, or were they possibly being asked to defer a season?

 

[MadCityRich]

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**** 'em. De-committing is one thing. But asking for a release from a NLI you signed 4 months ago, then go to a school in the same conference is another. **** 'em. I hope we beat the **** out of them everytime we play them.

 

[Timothy A]

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Krygier twins are now committed to Michigan State and will be going this fall

Were they going to crack the top 6? Not likely. Didn't they flip from someone else to UW? That gets UW down to 9 D next year with Peltonen assumed not to be coming either, assuming Sexton and Bunz return. 10 D the following year assuming no one leaves early.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Were they going to crack the top 6? Not likely. Didn't they flip from someone else to UW? That gets UW down to 9 D next year with Peltonen assumed not to be coming either, assuming Sexton and Bunz return. 10 D the following year assuming no one leaves early.

Solid players so it hurts us because they were insurance against injury or if JD doesn't get it together or somebody else goes in the tank, but I'm not overly worried. Probably works better for everybody in the long run. (Until the Krygier boys beat the odds and become superstars elsewhere, that is.) Sounds like a family advisor deal to me as Sparty was barred from recruiting them. Somebody looked at the lineup and decided playing time at UW wasn't worth waiting a year for and then learned playing time could be had at Mi St right away.

Interesting development because there had to be some sort of scholarship $$ tied to their NLI. What will we do with it?

As for the next year, I'd say Peltonnen's a longshot yet to be a Badger and Brady Smith also has a lot of work to do to play for Oz. If anybody leaves early, we may very well be short.

 

[MadCityRich]

Solid players so it hurts us because they were insurance against injury or if JD doesn't get it together or somebody else goes in the tank, but I'm not overly worried. Probably works better for everybody in the long run. (Until the Krygier boys beat the odds and become superstars elsewhere, that is.) Sounds like a family advisor deal to me as Sparty was barred from recruiting them. Somebody looked at the lineup and decided playing time at UW wasn't worth waiting a year for and then learned playing time could be had at Mi St right away.

Interesting development because there had to be some sort of scholarship $$ tied to their NLI. What will we do with it?

As for the next year, I'd say Peltonnen's a longshot yet to be a Badger and Brady Smith also has a lot of work to do to play for Oz. If anybody leaves early, we may very well be short.

I posted on the main thread. Todd M states their dad said they want to play right away and academics might be a problem. Follow him on Twitter, if anybody knows anything, it's him.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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In the big picture, if projected draft picks don't think they're good enough to play here... I don't see that as a bad thing, really.

A year ago these guys were big gets and important to the future, but with no one leaving and the way Ess played this year, and I'd say after a weak start, Inamoto lived up to his billing a lot more as the season wore on as well, there's a high, high likelihood the Krygiers were going to be sitting in the bleachers. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

EODS can add them to the list and we move on. Now let's spend that scholly $$ on somebody who'll play!

 

[markwojo]

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Probably a win win win. Numbers on D made absolutely no sense both this year and going forward. Krygier's were not playing in front of any of last years frosh, Miller/Emberson, or Tischke\Greenway. Add in Peltonen for depth and a development guy/early departure insurance and I think it all works out for the best for UW, the Krygier's, and Peltonen.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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I’ll stand by that this is still bad news, but it’s at least the understandable kind that can maybe be spun the right way on the recruiting trail.

In Oz we trust: so stacked at D that possible NHL draft picks might not have a spot on the roster.

(Okay, D was a weak point last year, but still…)

 

[GoBucky!]

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Twins Christian, Cole Krygier granted releases from letters of intent with Wisconsin Badgers

"The boys felt like they wanted to get into a better position where they might have more opportunity to earn playing time elsewhere than not play at all for most of the first year," said Todd Krygier, an assistant coach at Western Michigan and former NHL forward.

"It was that simple. And then the other side of it is, academically, we were uncertain whether or not they would be able to get into Wisconsin. They both cleared the clearinghouse, but they weren't meeting the academic requirements to be admitted at this time to Wisconsin."

 

[DPlaya]

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Twins Christian, Cole Krygier granted releases from letters of intent with Wisconsin Badgers

"The boys felt like they wanted to get into a better position where they might have more opportunity to earn playing time elsewhere than not play at all for most of the first year," said Todd Krygier, an assistant coach at Western Michigan and former NHL forward.

"It was that simple. And then the other side of it is, academically, we were uncertain whether or not they would be able to get into Wisconsin. They both cleared the clearinghouse, but they weren't meeting the academic requirements to be admitted at this time to Wisconsin."

The article sort of tacks on the fact they probably can't get into UW at the end, but everything else is irrelevant if you do not have the grades to gain admission.

 

[Timothy A]

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Twins Christian, Cole Krygier granted releases from letters of intent with Wisconsin Badgers

"The boys felt like they wanted to get into a better position where they might have more opportunity to earn playing time elsewhere than not play at all for most of the first year," said Todd Krygier, an assistant coach at Western Michigan and former NHL forward.

"It was that simple. And then the other side of it is, academically, we were uncertain whether or not they would be able to get into Wisconsin. They both cleared the clearinghouse, but they weren't meeting the academic requirements to be admitted at this time to Wisconsin."

I can just about bet if they had met the academic requirements they'd be wearing much more attractive colors next year.

I am super stoked about the impact on the scholarship pool. It isn't like UW needs any more players, but it gives them a lot of options. Maybe there's cash for a goalie now.

 

[gwhinwi]

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I have updated the spreadsheet with the Krygiers' moving on to Michigan State.

Have to figure it was an academic thing more than anything at this stage late in the game. Hope they have good careers either way.

 

[MadCityRich]

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Direct quote from their Dad......

"The boys felt like they wanted to get into a better position where they might have more opportunity to earn playing time elsewhere than not play at all for most of the first year," said Todd Krygier, an assistant coach at Western Michigan and former NHL forward. "It was that simple. And then the other side of it is, academically, we were uncertain whether or not they would be able to get into Wisconsin. They both cleared the clearinghouse, but they weren't meeting the academic requirements to be admitted at this time to Wisconsin." Says a lot about Michigan State, but we knew that already, didn't we?

Obviously as fans we don't want anybody here that doesn't want to be here (signing a contract then backing out), but I think the family MIGHT be using academics as an excuse and the playing time is more of a factor, since that was mentioned first, just sayin'.

Anyway, we obviously we still have talented D coming in and next season let's score tons of goals against MSU.

By the way, gwhinwi; thanks for your work that you do and all you other guys, too!

 

[markwojo]

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I wonder if a big Ruskie goalie may become a more viable option with some freed up scholarship dollars. My working theory is still that there are academic hurdles there to play anywhere.

The downside of losing the Krygier's is we become vulnerable to early departures which on the backend seem like they may happen more frequently in the next couple of years. NHL teams are not all that anxious to see guys make it to their senior years (and risk losing an asset for nothing ala the Justin Schultz maneuver). Greenway would be a senior next year and the 3 about to be sophs were all drafted and would be headed toward their junior years next fall. Throw in Miller being a bottom of round one pick (or upper second) and Emberson being in the 2-3 round range and we suddenly have the pleasant problem of guys that won't make it to their senior year.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Ditto on the kudos to gwhinwi. It's just so great to have that reference so handy.

I don't think there's any hope for Peltonnen to be on the roster in the fall. Just doesn't make any sense. If they really wanted to add a D it would make more sense to bring in Vorlickey or Lamaster. Neither of which makes sense to me either. Bunz or Sexton can play 8 minutes competently if it really came down to it. Much better to add a goalie or a center. Super accelerate Turcotte or sign Rizzo. Or bring in an overage Canadian.


Also Caufield scores on a break out for USA to take a 1-0 lead over the Russians. USA! USA! USA!

 

[gwhinwi]

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By the way, gwhinwi; thanks for your work that you do and all you other guys, too!

Ditto on the kudos to gwhinwi. It's just so great to have that reference so handy.

Thanks for the nice words.

My daughter was rolling her eyes when she was watching me edit it this morning. Just couldn't understand why I bother.

Keeps me involved in the program when I'm not there to see all the games. That makes it worth it to me and if others benefit as well, then all the better.

 

[Timothy A]

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I do think it's unrealistic for the typical Freshman player to assume they are going to come in an play right away. It all depends on a lot of factors, and I'm sure those brothers knew what UW's depth chart looked like prior to signing the NLI.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Trying to make a comprehensive list of players who decommitted, transfered, went to the CHL (or Europe, like Jordy Murray), or otherwise left without signing a pro contract, starting at the beginning of the eaves era.

Especially with TG’s recent purges, it’ll be a long list.

Any help coming up with names will be great.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ImvKLUHKZyhn5-GSaO-5FHUVbRJv9Uypm4FIAQuLj8

Updated as best as I could.

****, it’s a list. Quite a few draft picks, albeit several that just fizzled out after they were drafted (Berkovitz, Hickey, Bearson, etc)

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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A lot of recent activity on that list, but I suppose it was to be expected once Eaves was fired.

 

[WiscTJK]

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Updated as best as I could.

****, it’s a list. Quite a few draft picks, albeit several that just fizzled out after they were drafted (Berkovitz, Hickey, Bearson, etc)

who's the d kid that went to UNH... he should be on here.