Wisconsin Hockey XXXIV: A Season without Chuck

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Badger Joe Labate showing his toughness. Click the date below. CAUTION. Lot's of blood.


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Atta boy, Joe!

 

[WiscDC]

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Tuesday's Players to Watch list from NHL Central Scouting - http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=789295

A: Luke Kunin

B: Trent Frederic, Max Zimmer

C: Matthew Freytag, Matt Jurusik, Kohen Olischefski

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

 

[Timothy A]

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So is UW going to play some games or what? These bye weeks suck. I see 2-2 over the next 4 games. I find it refreshing to be able to ponder how many games they could win vs just hoping that they can score a goal and not embarrass themselves defensively while losing.

 

[WiscTJK]

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So is UW going to play some games or what? These bye weeks suck. I see 2-2 over the next 4 games. I find it refreshing to be able to ponder how many games they could win vs just hoping that they can score a goal and not embarrass themselves defensively while losing.

I think your optimistic, but I am the negative nancy of this thread apparently...

 

[srkbadger]

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At best 1-2-1, more likely 0-3-1.

 

[KaMiGo]

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So is UW going to play some games or what? These bye weeks suck. I see 2-2 over the next 4 games. I find it refreshing to be able to ponder how many games they could win vs just hoping that they can score a goal and not embarrass themselves defensively while losing.

I kind of like the early bye weeks this year. This gives a chance for the young players to get fully invested in the systems, gives the old players a chance to get fully comfortable with the young players, and gives the coaches a chance to get their new systems fully in place.

 

[solovsfett]

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question: is anyone keeping tabs on Wisconsin and Minnesota's records vs. their old conference foes since the advent of the hockey conference modeled loosely on the football conference?

 

[IndianaBadger1995]

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At best 1-2-1, more likely 0-3-1.

So optimistic

 

[Timothy A]

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I kind of like the early bye weeks this year. This gives a chance for the young players to get fully invested in the systems, gives the old players a chance to get fully comfortable with the young players, and gives the coaches a chance to get their new systems fully in place.

For the player development it's good, for the fan's it's bad, I want to see some hockey. I like momentum in a season and the bye's kill it.

 

[KaMiGo]

For the player development it's good, for the fan's it's bad, I want to see some hockey. I like momentum in a season and the bye's kill it.

So what would you want the schedule to be? Big front, long break, big end? Quiet beginning, average middle, big end?

With the BI6 this is how it is going to be every year. All of the other conferences are done with their nonconference schedule for the most part. We front-load the noncon games when other teams are available, take a little break, squeeze a few in before the break, and then go crazy with conference games after the break.

 

[solovsfett]

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So what would you want the schedule to be? Big front, long break, big end? Quiet beginning, average middle, big end?

With the BI6 this is how it is going to be every year. All of the other conferences are done with their nonconference schedule for the most part. We front-load the noncon games when other teams are available, take a little break, squeeze a few in before the break, and then go crazy with conference games after the break.

heh, i won't speak for tim but this begs the answer: ideal schedule is what occurred from any point in the 1970's or 80's into the late 90's, the end.

 

[Timothy A]

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So what would you want the schedule to be? Big front, long break, big end? Quiet beginning, average middle, big end?

Play every weekend except take a few weeks off during Christmas/New Year. I'd avoid home games Thanksgiving weekend and early/mid January because the students are gone. I would not backload the b6 games in the schedule, have them sprinkled through the year, otherwise you play the same 5 teams in 12 weeks, boring.

 

[KaMiGo]

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heh, i won't speak for tim but this begs the answer: ideal schedule is what occurred from any point in the 1970's or 80's into the late 90's, the end.

While some people still hold out for a return to the only true and right hockey alignment with the death of the Big Ten Hockey conference and a return to the WCHA/CCHA/CHA of old, it simply isn't going to happen. You can have all of the hate that you want for what the BI6 did and what it continues to do, but things are never going to change back to how they were in the past.

 

[KaMiGo]

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Play every weekend except take a few weeks off during Christmas/New Year. I'd avoid home games Thanksgiving weekend and early/mid January because the students are gone. I would not backload the b6 games in the schedule, have them sprinkled through the year, otherwise you play the same 5 teams in 12 weeks, boring.

That formula just doesn't add up.

If you want to "play every weekend" while only taking off for "a few weeks during Christmas/New Year" and "avoiding home games during Thanksgiving and early/mid January" that would leave roughly 22 weekends of hockey. I'm pretty sure that even with pre-season tournament exceptions, travel to Alaska exceptions, and exhibition exceptions that you would end up significantly over the number of allowed games.

The only option for conference games is the back of the schedule. You aren't going to find nearly enough non-con opponents later in the year; they are all playing their own conference schedules at that point.

The only option is what we have now, and what every other team does...play your non-con games early in the year with a few breaks built in, play a few more games in the Dec-Jan lull, and play a heavy conference schedule in the end

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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While some people still hold out for a return to the only true and right hockey alignment with the death of the Big Ten Hockey conference and a return to the WCHA/CCHA/CHA of old, it simply isn't going to happen. You can have all of the hate that you want for what the BI6 did and what it continues to do, but things are never going to change back to how they were in the past.

This is what my friend's parents told her after they split up when she was 11. It's been 30 years but I always tell her "So what if they've both been remarried for 25 years. Hang on to that. There's still hope!"

 

[RedStripes]

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That formula just doesn't add up.

If you want to "play every weekend" while only taking off for "a few weeks during Christmas/New Year" and "avoiding home games during Thanksgiving and early/mid January" that would leave roughly 22 weekends of hockey. I'm pretty sure that even with pre-season tournament exceptions, travel to Alaska exceptions, and exhibition exceptions that you would end up significantly over the number of allowed games.

The only option for conference games is the back of the schedule. You aren't going to find nearly enough non-con opponents later in the year; they are all playing their own conference schedules at that point.

The only option is what we have now, and what every other team does...play your non-con games early in the year with a few breaks built in, play a few more games in the Dec-Jan lull, and play a heavy conference schedule in the end

Timothy A's schedule is basically what we had in the 80's and 90's as I recall. But then the season started around Halloween, not the first weekend of October.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Yes, from a fans perspective, if they just started two weeks later, then played eight straight weekends, took the break, or played in a holiday tournament (My overwhelming preference would be this one: http://skateeverblades.com/florida-college-d1-classic-december-28th-29th-2015/ ) then every other year you'd start the remaining B1G schedule at home the second weekend in January. That would be better, but obviously difficult to arrange and still play BC, BU, UND, and DU, which I think is great. Probably not as good for the players either, considering injuries, etc. If the B1G ever gets more teams it will perhaps seem a bit better.

 

[solovsfett]

While some people still hold out for a return to the only true and right hockey alignment with the death of the Big Ten Hockey conference and a return to the WCHA/CCHA/CHA of old, it simply isn't going to happen. You can have all of the hate that you want for what the BI6 did and what it continues to do, but things are never going to change back to how they were in the past.

We may be stuck with the big football conference but it doesn't change the fact that it sucks and there are next to zero Wisconsin hockey fans who care about Ohio state, penn state, Michigan state or even Michigan when compared to north dakota, Denver, Duluth, nmu, et al.

Not only does the new conference suck in terms of losing some games (used to have 4 games against these teams annually) against rivals but it appears Denver, nodak and St. Cloud are all fairing better post big football conference while Wisconsin and now Minnesota are sucking.

Tell me, how is ncaa hockey OR Wisconsin individually better off on this situation?

 

[gwhinwi]

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Tell me, how is ncaa hockey OR Wisconsin individually better off on this situation?

Only thing that I can come up with is $$$.

Big Ten hockey TV game revenue must be a much bigger slice than any of the previous contracts that the schools held in the past.

Outside of that, I can't think of a benefit.

 

[Badger Booster]

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So what would you want the schedule to be? Big front, long break, big end? Quiet beginning, average middle, big end?

With the BI6 this is how it is going to be every year. All of the other conferences are done with their nonconference schedule for the most part. We front-load the noncon games when other teams are available, take a little break, squeeze a few in before the break, and then go crazy with conference games after the break.

At the very least they have to avoid a lack of home games for a 7 week stretch. We're talking about hockey and there are no home games in December. Not sure who is ultimately responsible for making the schedule, but this is a major problem with this year's schedule.