Wisconsin Hockey XXIX: Yes, this is the Rumpel Rink!

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey XXIX: Yes, this is the Rumpel Rink!

My .02 is these 8 are the guys I'd lean on to get creative, play race horse hockey and score goals.

You know, there's so much unrest and the world has changed so much that some days I barely recognize it...

However, there's a certain comfort I take from the way solo's demand for race-horse hockey remains constant.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Technically even if he doesn't spend a day in the NHL this season he'll still make $162,500 (need to include his signing bonus of $92,500 each of the next three years).

Good point, thanks. Definitely nothing to spit at, I've just never been totally convinced he's closer to being a millionaire in Norfolk than he would be in Madison. (and he'd only be out the intere$t on the bonus because it would be the same $ next year.) But regardless, I think the point Hammy was making is legitimate in the sense that the upperclassmen have sucked on the ice so far, so it's hard to say what we really have with the frosh until the vets get their heads in the game.

 

[solovsfett]

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You know, there's so much unrest and the world has changed so much that some days I barely recognize it...

However, there's a certain comfort I take from the way solo's demand for race-horse hockey remains constant.

If you weren't around to see UW hockey in the 80's or early 90's you missed out on **** exciting hockey. It would probably shock the current crowds to see some of those games now and see how UW used to play.

I'll take the race horse brand of hockey over the Eaves offense-stifling system any day of the week.

So I'll be the old man and say I'm effing tired of this product...had it past the top of my head with it really.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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But regardless, I think the point Hammy was making is legitimate in the sense that the upperclassmen have sucked on the ice so far, so it's hard to say what we really have with the frosh until the vets get their heads in the game.

Exactly the point I've been trying to make.

 

[WiscTJK]

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If you weren't around to see UW hockey in the 80's or early 90's you missed out on **** exciting hockey. It would probably shock the current crowds to see some of those games now and see how UW used to play.

I'll take the race horse brand of hockey over the Eaves offense-stifling system any day of the week.

So I'll be the old man and say I'm effing tired of this product...had it past the top of my head with it really.

you, me, and many others. I don't care if we lose verbals, blah blah blah. I am willing to live with a few more (continued) down years to get a more exciting product on the ice. What good are all the high end recruits if they aren't allowed to show their creativity or take chances?

 

[WiscTJK]

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Can not have everything. Who's to say this new up and coming coach would not just leave in a year or two. I think the coach topic is pointless. Nothing will change! Eaves is not going anywhere, the University is not going to pay for two coaches through 2019. Also, we would most likely have to begin recruiting all over again, due to most recruits backing out of their verbal to UW if Eaves was pushed out the door. The foundation for the Eaves cycle is beginning. It is just that this one could be a bit more painful in the beginning than others. They have some freshman on this roster who could turn into some good foundation pieces and high end players when the others arrive on campus. The other current freshman may be bounced out of the line up when the others arrive. These players have to see this and it is most likely motivation to kick it in a higher gear and contribute when they can....which is now. They are not D1 hockey players for no reason. The B1G is weak and they could get hot at the end of the year and make a run in the B1G tourney. Remember we do have Rumpel between the pipes.

get hot and barely get in the tournament or barely miss, and then if you get in, lose in the first round. Yep. sounds like another banner "Eaves cycle"

 

[bucky15]

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get hot and barely get in the tournament or barely miss, and then if you get in, lose in the first round. Yep. sounds like another banner "Eaves cycle"

Honestly though, if this team makes the tourney this year, it is a successful year. People's expectations for UW hockey year in and year out are just not realistic. UW has one NCAA title in the last 25 years.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Exactly the point I've been trying to make.

In that case my opinion of your point is now very high. In fact this is probably your best point ever!

Honestly though, if this team makes the tourney this year, it is a successful year. People's expectations for UW hockey year in and year out are just not realistic. UW has one NCAA title in the last 25 years.

Technically, 2 in the last 25 years. Which puts us in a 5 or 6 way tie for second behind BC, I think.

This team can certainly make the tourney. After all, (historically speaking) I don't believe Wisconsin has ever lost a Big 10 playoff game.

 

[bucky15]

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In that case my opinion of your point is now very high. In fact this is probably your best point ever!



Technically, 2 in the last 25 years. Which puts us in a 5 or 6 way tie for second behind BC, I think.

This team can certainly make the tourney. After all, (historically speaking) I don't believe Wisconsin has ever lost a Big 10 playoff game.

Technically 2? Am I missing something?........Never mind 1990 duh. That one is coming off the 25 year books shortly.

 

[WiscTJK]

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Honestly though, if this team makes the tourney this year, it is a successful year. People's expectations for UW hockey year in and year out are just not realistic. UW has one NCAA title in the last 25 years.

So you are satisfied with making the NCAA tournament 4 times in 8 years since the 2006 NC with zero NCAA tournament wins since 2010? 4 times in 9 years after this year. That shouldn't be acceptable at Wisconsin. I don't think it is unrealistic to make the tournament 7 of every 10 years.

 

[bucky15]

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So you are satisfied with making the NCAA tournament 4 times in 8 years since the 2006 NC with zero NCAA tournament wins since 2010? 4 times in 9 years after this year. That shouldn't be acceptable at Wisconsin. I don't think it is unrealistic to make the tournament 7 of every 10 years.

You kind of went against your previous post about being upset about barely getting in the NCAA tourney and losing the first round. In this post you make getting into the tournament a standard.

I am not satisfied that this year will probably be painful too watch. Do I see a real good team coming in the near future, yes. The only thing that matters for NCAA tourney victories is winning 4 in one year. Eaves has done that, not too long after Sauer had driven the program near the bottom.

 

[WiscTJK]

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You kind of went against your previous post about being upset about barely getting in the NCAA tourney and losing the first round. In this post you make getting into the tournament a standard.

I am not satisfied that this year will probably be painful too watch. Do I see a real good team coming in the near future, yes. The only thing that matters for NCAA tourney victories is winning 4 in one year. Eaves has done that, not too long after Sauer had driven the program near the bottom.

No, they all go together. We should be in tournament more and win more games. I am unhappy last year losing in the first round and it was THE year in the "Eaves cycle." Unhappy with the slow it down game. Unhappy with the lack of tournament qualifications. Unhappy with the lack of balanced classes. I am not the only one. Just look at all the empty seats.

I have hung on as a season ticket holder both nights, but my frustration is nearing an all time high. I almost gave up one night this year, but I love Badger hockey. Obviously no one in the Athletic Dept cares or is taking notice as they extend Eaves year after year of this mediocrity.

Sauer near the bottom? He made the NCAA tournament 3 of his last 7 years after making it 8 years in a row before that, and he "retired." That record gets your contract extended in the Eaves era.

 

[burd]

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Unhappy with the slow it down game.

Many in Grand Forks say they are unhappy with the slow-it-down, keep-it-on-the-perimeter game Hakstol teaches too, but it seems all teams tend to play defense-first hockey. But I wonder if it is more difficult to watch slow-it-down hockey on big ice. On NHL ice things can happen pretty quickly, so it may make the game seem to move faster regardless of the style of play on the ice. You would think that with more space you would see more skating and passing, but the overall pace of the game might seem slower.

 

[Almington]

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My personal benchmarks for a successful season is now a top 2 conference finish (to avoid those stupid Thursday games) and a NCAA tournament bid. I've seen enough great teams fail to win in a one-and-done tournament to have that be anything but a wonderful bonus.

With the set-up of the NCAA tournament, putting ALL your eggs in a once every fourth year basket is setting yourself up for massive disappointment when those teams flame out (like last season).

We'd all like UW to be more successful, but mostly I just want UW to be more consistant from year to year, but that just doesn't appear that is something that is likely to happen while Eaves remains coach.

That said, the days of all-out fire wagon hockey of the 80s and early 90s isn't coming back, but you can hope for is a team that is quick in transition that can pressure the other team into making mistakes and then capitalizing on those mistakes (see BC and UMN for examples) but that just isn't the conservative style that Eaves is going to play.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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Quickly put together projected lineups for the next three years in case anyone is interested. On paper these are all NCAA tournament-type teams that should be able to put the puck in the net. Make of it what you wish.

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[UWisco]

Quickly put together projected lineups for the next three years in case anyone is interested. On paper these are all NCAA tournament-type teams that should be able to put the puck in the net. Make of it what you wish.

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This gets me VERY excited for the coming years.

 

[oldtyme25]

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You kind of went against your previous post about being upset about barely getting in the NCAA tourney and losing the first round. In this post you make getting into the tournament a standard.

I am not satisfied that this year will probably be painful too watch. Do I see a real good team coming in the near future, yes. The only thing that matters for NCAA tourney victories is winning 4 in one year. Eaves has done that, not too long after Sauer had driven the program near the bottom.

Before you start running down Jeff Sauer in comparison to Eaves, keep in mind that the only national championship Mike Eaves has won was with Coach Sauer's players. In my opinion, and it appears the 6000 fans per night who are no longer showing up to the games, that Mike Eaves is turning Wisconsin into a second tier program.

 

[solovsfett]

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Before you start running down Jeff Sauer in comparison to Eaves, keep in mind that the only national championship Mike Eaves has won was with Coach Sauer's players. In my opinion, and it appears the 6000 fans per night who are no longer showing up to the games, that Mike Eaves is turning Wisconsin into a second tier program.

It's true Burish/Gilbert/Macmurchy/Licari/Degenhardt were all Sauer guys and were the leaders of the NCAA Championship charge, but we cannot discount Earl/Pavelski/Street/Carlson/Skille/Joudrey...their contributions were what put that team over the top

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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It's true Burish/Gilbert/Macmurchy/Licari/Degenhardt were all Sauer guys and were the leaders of the NCAA Championship charge, but we cannot discount Earl/Pavelski/Street/Carlson/Skille/Joudrey...their contributions were what put that team over the top

Dowell and Likens, too. That NTDP crew that Eaves brought with him after taking the job was critical.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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It's true Burish/Gilbert/Macmurchy/Licari/Degenhardt were all Sauer guys and were the leaders of the NCAA Championship charge, but we cannot discount Earl/Pavelski/Street/Carlson/Skille/Joudrey...their contributions were what put that team over the top

Dowell and Likens, too. That NTDP crew that Eaves brought with him after taking the job was critical.

The seniors were the glue though.

Of course, the entire team was important, but it was well documented at the time how unique of a captain Burish was and the meeting amongst those guys and each buying into their role and leading by example, etc.

I'm in no way giving credit to Sauer for that though coz it's also well documented that those seniors came into a free-for-all their freshman year where the upperclassmen were openly disrespectful to the coach and the program.