Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

[bigus]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

I could be wrong and maybe someone better at the math can correct me, but I believe that with their win tonight, CC became a TUC no matter what happens tomorrow and thus, Wisconsin's path probably has to go through winning the Final Five.

 

[Almington]

I could be wrong and maybe someone better at the math can correct me, but I believe that with their win tonight, CC became a TUC no matter what happens tomorrow and thus, Wisconsin's path probably has to go through winning the Final Five.

Yes

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

I could be wrong and maybe someone better at the math can correct me, but I believe that with their win tonight, CC became a TUC no matter what happens tomorrow and thus, Wisconsin's path probably has to go through winning the Final Five.

You're correct on CC, and pretty close on needing the auto-bid to get in.

As of right now if there are no upsets, the top 16 in the PWR will be in the tournament. Wisconsin is at 18 and needs 2 more comparisons to jump into the top 16. They are losing the comparison to Robert Morris right now. One win at the Final Five evens up the comparison, and Wisconsin has the tie-breaker with the higher RPI. Cornell is very similar...let's say they lost to Quinnipiac tomorrow and Wisconsin wins one game at the Final Five, that flips the comparison back to the Badgers. Wisconsin already wins the comparison against No. 16 RPI, so they would be in the tourney.

 

[captain beefheart]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

I'm applying the following hypothetical situation to my years of sales & marketing. (Names are not used to protect my ***.)

Let's say the economy has been sucking and many, many people don't have the disposable income they've had in the past. A popular activity that has been very entertaining in the past just isn't anymore. The product isn't as good and people aren't willing to pay for an inferior product. <-(Not a rip on the team).

SOLUTION: You promote that product to the best of your ability. You discount the product and get more people to PURCHASE the product (and hopefully like what they see/get). Let's say you discount a $25 product $10. That $15 product will almost double purchases. In KC terms I would rather have 15,000 people at $15.00 ($225,000), than 8,000 at $25.00 ($200,000). Yes, the difference is "only" about 25,000 people, but remember to include pop, snacks, ice cream, programs, Bucky's Locker Room, etc, etc.

Seriously, I talk to people every day who don't know the hockey team has improved. They are the bandwaggoners who show up win they're only winning. I've heard some radio promos on AM radio, but what about FM, TV, e-billboards, or even a ****ing Cesna pulling a banner?

It's really sad seeing the situation at the KC. And then you have the usher dorks that make the experience SO much more fun.

Now I'm done. Gotta shower & go to hockey game with MCR Jr.who is visiting his Pop.

You should become a Gopher fan. The tickets are a cool $40 +/- and the ushers let you sit on your hands and everything.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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You should become a Gopher fan.

I would point out how mentally deficient you appear in making a ridiculous statement like this, but given the team you root for, that would be redundant.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

Thanks again for your reply Solo.

I agree with a lot of what you say here but there's worlds of difference between a great UW team losing to an inferior or perceived inferior opponent in the regular season (shrug, it happens now and then, the team is still great)

The reason I used the NC teams as an example was simply to illustrate that even great teams lose to terrible teams. It just happens. We have had plenty of bad teams over the years lose to worse teams too, but I was just trying to address the one loss to PSU that some folks were apoplectic over.

and a boring painfully average UW team losing to PSU, that loss is in UW's current situation comes across to me as the denouement really. The mark of a new low to a program that appears to have been sinking lately. I don't know, to me losing to a club hockey team, in a season where you start 1-7-2 and were supposed to be (heralded by some on here) great, and with a history of missing the ncaa's 4 of 6 years prior it just...sucks

I get it, but the one point I've been trying to make the last few weeks is that this is NOT a painfully average team. This team is very good and playing at a high level. I don't know if we'll make the NCAA's, but no team in the country is more ready for one and done playoff hockey than we are. Name one team in the whole country that we can't beat in a one game match-up? Just one... --btw, If anyone says Q, I will punch them right in the face. (RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!)
I agree with everything you say about it SUCKING. But if indeed you are correct, that losing to PSU was the denouement, shouldn't we all be happy that the bottom has been reached? A horrible episode concluded and the darkness is lifting? Actually the bottom was last November. We are on the way back to national prominence. Hallelujah!!!

The problems with the AD, the coaching staff, the KC, I don't know --the lack of mints in the men's restroom if that's your beef --Those things are all real and legitimate and fine to talk about, but Husky on a stick, I'd sure be pleased if once in awhile certain folks came in and said "Geez, these kids are doing a hell of a job." Because they are playing to expectations right now. Every pre-game show since November, and every one there will be this season, starts (and rightly so) with "1-7-2" Kids probably hear it in their sleep.
It may not happen, but Bucky keeps rollin' and Baggott and Chuck will be kicking themselves for not making a book deal this year and writing a hockey version of 'Season on the Brink'. Sucky start, lot's of issues, but best story since the '83 Backdoor Badgers.

As far as PSU being a 'club hockey' team? They were far from it, but I'm clearly beating a dead horse there. Agree we should have destroyed them. We didn't. meh...

In 1990 UW was fantastic and losing to NMU was in no way embarrassing. That was an NMU team with Dallas Drake, Scott Beattie, Jim Hiller and Bill Pye (they went on to win the title in 91 over a Tony Amonte, Shawn Mceachern, Joe Sacco led BU) so they were very good on their way to being great.

All true, they were a terror in '91. To be fair though, in '90 if we, as the best team in college hockey, didn't go 1-3 against them, they would have had a losing record.

anyway I hope UW wins tonight, win tonight and get 1 win in St. Paul and who knows?

1st one granted. Let's GO RED!

 

[TUSCHWI]

I am fine with that shot , but I have not seen Eaves that ****ed off since the dollar tree stopped selling the suits he wears

That almost made me spit my coffee out. His suits.....im sure he makes enough to get some nicer suits. Then again he may get his suits at the same place Gwozdecky gets his shirts.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

Broke down how the Sunday games will affect Wisconsin's PairWise rank (LINK)...here is the quick breakdown.

1.) Wisconsin wants North Dakota to win so that the Badgers have an opportunity to play a TUC Thursday at the Final Five in St. Paul.

2.) Other games of interest to the Badgers on Sunday night:

Quinnipiac vs Cornell (Wisconsin wants Quinnipiac to win)
Rensselaer vs Brown (Wisconsin wants Brown to win)
Ohio State vs Ferris State (Wisconsin wants Ohio State to win)
Miami vs Michigan State (Wisconsin wants Miami to win)
Holy Cross vs Mercyhurst (Wisconsin wants Holy Cross to win)

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Chuck, now that I've mentioned it, looking forward to reading "Badgers on the Brink". Can't wait to see how it ends.

You are writing this, yes?

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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Chuck, now that I've mentioned it, looking forward to reading "Badgers on the Brink". Can't wait to see how it ends.

You are writing this, yes?

I've been saying since October that there should be a book written about this season for the Badgers. That said, let's hope someone with some better writing skills takes that task.

 

[icebadger]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

Broke down how the Sunday games will affect Wisconsin's PairWise rank (LINK)...here is the quick breakdown.

1.) Wisconsin wants North Dakota to win so that the Badgers have an opportunity to play a TUC Thursday at the Final Five in St. Paul.

2.) Other games of interest to the Badgers on Sunday night:

Quinnipiac vs Cornell (Wisconsin wants Quinnipiac to win)
Rensselaer vs Brown (Wisconsin wants Brown to win)
Ohio State vs Ferris State (Wisconsin wants Ohio State to win)
Miami vs Michigan State (Wisconsin wants Miami to win)
Holy Cross vs Mercyhurst (Wisconsin wants Holy Cross to win)

Well, 3 good, 1 bad so far:

UND vs MTU (Wisconsin wants UND to win)
Quinnipiac vs Cornell (Wisconsin wants Quinnipiac to win)
Rensselaer vs Brown (Wisconsin wants Brown to win)
Ohio State vs Ferris State (Wisconsin wants Ohio State to win)
Miami vs Michigan State (Wisconsin wants Miami to win)
Holy Cross vs Mercyhurst (Wisconsin wants Holy Cross to win

Also, UND is up big in the 2nd and Q is down 1 late-3rd.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

Broke down how the Sunday games will affect Wisconsin's PairWise rank (LINK)...here is the quick breakdown.

1.) Wisconsin wants North Dakota to win so that the Badgers have an opportunity to play a TUC Thursday at the Final Five in St. Paul.

2.) Other games of interest to the Badgers on Sunday night:

Quinnipiac vs Cornell (Wisconsin wants Quinnipiac to win)
Rensselaer vs Brown (Wisconsin wants Brown to win)
Ohio State vs Ferris State (Wisconsin wants Ohio State to win)
Miami vs Michigan State (Wisconsin wants Miami to win)
Holy Cross vs Mercyhurst (Wisconsin wants Holy Cross to win)

So far, not bad. HC lost sending us to 19PWR, but RPI lost, putting us back in 16t. Q losing 2-1 beginning of the 3rd after curb-stomping Cornell 10-0 last night. Q is buzzing though. Miami won, and OSU won 3-2.

Oh yeah, and UND is looking pretty good to win.

Edit: Listening to two games and I totally missed your post ice badger. oops!

Q has hit the post 3 times in the last minute. 2 to go..

Another Edit...Q pulled goalie and tied Cornell.

 

[icebadger]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

So far, not bad. HC lost sending us to 19PWR, but RPI lost, putting us back in 16t. Q losing 2-1 beginning of the 3rd after curb-stomping Cornell 10-0 last night. Q is buzzing though. Miami won, and OSU won 3-2.

Oh yeah, and UND is looking pretty good to win.

Edit: Listening to two games and I totally missed your post ice badger. oops!

Q has hit the post 3 times in the last minute. 2 to go..

Another Edit...Q pulled goalie and tied Cornell.

No worries. This reminds of when we made the tourney a few years ago while under .500 and we needed a laundry list of games to exactly go our way down the stretch and they all did. At present, we are at the top of a 6-way tie for 16th in the PWR.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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No worries. This reminds of when we made the tourney a few years ago while under .500 and we needed a laundry list of games to exactly go our way down the stretch and they all did.

Yes indeed! Maybe there's something in the air... Listening to the Q - Cornell game and though personally I'd rather see Cornell win, I'm pulling for Q and they score with 48 seconds left to tie it. It's headed to OT of course, but it was all Q the third period.

Speaking of Q, wouldn't mind it at all if we miracled our way into a 16th seed!

 

[UWisco]

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Would a Denver loss tonight effect UWs power ranking?

 

[DCBadger]

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I think it is more, that we have two losses to CC, so we want them out.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol XXV: There's Hope! Or whatever...

any word on McCabe or Simonelli? Derek Lee?

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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any word on McCabe or Simonelli? Derek Lee?

I haven't heard anything, but what do you think Eaves will do if Lee is back? I assume he'd go right back to his spot, but Woods has really fit in well. I like the size that line has right now. Hope McCabe and Frankie are ok...

This Q- Cornell game is headed to 2nd OT. Sounding like the '06 game against Cornell... war of attrition now.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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I think it is more, that we have two losses to CC, so we want them out.

CC is cemented as a TUC at this point regardless of if they lost tonight or not. That said, there's an outside chance that some random game could affect their RPI to slightly drop them below the cliff. Very, very unlikely however.

any word on McCabe or Simonelli? Derek Lee?

We won't know until Eaves meets the media tomorrow. Even then, who knows how truthful he'll be.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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I think it is more, that we have two losses to CC, so we want them out.

The CC Denver game doesn't impact us really. We wanted CC to lose yesterday to fall of the TUC cliff. (teams with an RPI of .5000 or more) With CC winning yesterday, no matter what happens, their RPI will be above .5000 and they will remain a TUC, and our 0-2 record against them will count on one component of the PWR- record against TUC.