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WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. XXIV - Craziest Season Of All Time

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So why isn't there TV for this weekend? Even on delay? (At least uwbadgers.com doesn't have tv listed).

Good question...I don't know.

You can watch on InsideBadgerSports.com though for $10 this weekend. Make sure you cancel after the weekend if you don't want recurring charges.
 
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So why isn't there TV for this weekend? Even on delay? (At least uwbadgers.com doesn't have tv listed).

Completely bush-league that a conference home series isn't even on tape delay. Cost-cutting or apathy from the athletic department?
 
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I hurt my knee at hockey the other night and am on crutches. Don't care to navigate the icy lots and sidewalks from the U-Haul lot into the KC.


For icy conditions replace the rubber crutch end with a metal spike.

Bonus pro tip: Gopher skewer!
 
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Completely bush-league that a conference home series isn't even on tape delay. Cost-cutting or apathy from the athletic department?

I'm sure neither.

I'm thinking that the TV networks decide whether they want to broadcast based on whether they think they can make any money.
 
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I'm sure neither.

I'm thinking that the TV networks decide whether they want to broadcast based on whether they think they can make any money.

With only 8k at the arena, can't be that much demand for TV viewing and thus low add revenue.
 
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With only 8k at the arena, can't be that much demand for TV viewing and thus low add revenue.

The last three years of the same results (1-0, 2-1, 2-2, etc...) is lowly sucking the casual fan away. The increase in ticket prices over this period of time does not help. Why would you spend more money on something when the entertainment value decreases.

Don't really blame them.
 
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I guess no TV coverage saved me a couple hours of my time tonight. Honestly, how many points can they leave on the table at home against less-than-great teams?
 
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The last three years of the same results (1-0, 2-1, 2-2, etc...) is lowly sucking the casual fan away. The increase in ticket prices over this period of time does not help. Why would you spend more money on something when the entertainment value decreases.

Don't really blame them.

The problem is the combination being unexciting and losing is the problem. If you are going to lose, at least be exciting while doing it.

All the losses in OT have not helped, nothing more demoralizing than that.
 
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The problem is the combination being unexciting and losing is the problem. If you are going to lose, at least be exciting while doing it.

All the losses in OT have not helped, nothing more demoralizing than that.


The attendance issues have a real chance of snowballing from here too.

I bet they lose a bunch more season ticket holders next year. I'm starting to think about my Friday seats.

My oldest will be a freshman. Even now, he's got ski club or dances for half the Friday games.

I may just keep my two Saturday seats.
 
The attendance issues have a real chance of snowballing from here too.

I bet they lose a bunch more season ticket holders next year. I'm starting to think about my Friday seats.

My oldest will be a freshman. Even now, he's got ski club or dances for half the Friday games.

I may just keep my two Saturday seats.

I can't say I blame you, lives are busy and if the product isn't compelling why continue to buy tickets.
 
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Completely bush-league that a conference home series isn't even on tape delay. Cost-cutting or apathy from the athletic department?

Years ago, when I was watching UW hockey on a 13" black and white tv in my bedroom, PBS seemed to show almost every home series on tape delay, but over the years they have cut back, which is a bummer, but it's not a recent development. I do think somehow the AD needs to work with broadcasters to help line up funding to get more UW hockey games on tv. I wonder how much it costs PBS to produce a game on tv? I would have pd the 10 bucks and watched online this weekend, then cancelled like Chuck suggested, but I did hook up with Gurt and I'm taking #2 son to the game tonight (thanks Gurt). Plus these days you can listen on the web, follow the blog, follow on USCHO, follow via game tracker, or pay and watch online, so there's lots of ways to follow the game. Years ago in the black and white tv days, I had to hope the Milwaukee Journal had a box score.

I used to think UW attendance going down was mostly due to economics. I thought fan's loyaly to UW hockey would keep attendance up, kinda like the loyalty of Packer fans, but there is clearly more to this looking at how bad attendance is, last night was 8907. I myself decided not to attend any games because of the scoring/winning issues and I'm as rabid a UW hockey fan as there is, but I did only when I got ahold of 2 discounted tickets. The big question is would a coaching change invigorate the fans and make them come back? Sauer was a legend himself, and he was replaced with a legend in Eaves. How do you one-up a legendary guy like Eaves with a name that will suck the fans back into the KC? It just can't be a name, the guy has to be able to coach and recruit too. Maybe just the change itself would draw them back. The concern is once someone allocates that time slot in their lives to something else, it's hard to get them to ditch that new interest and switch back. Solovsfett and I know this first hand in being Indycar fans. Back in the mid 90's they were huge, then they had all sorts on internal political problems that fractured the series, and now that they are back to being a decently run organization, 90% of the lost fans didn't come back. I fear this same consequence for UW hockey. I guess by me typing this it means I'm ready to move on. It's been fun Mike, well, kinda.

Thanks again Gurt, the discounted tickets fit the budget. I am looking forward to the game tonight, I can't get enough of the intro in person. My son and I will do our best to create energy in the KC. Hopefully we won't offend Gurt's longtime neighbors, if they show up. Or maybe they'll thun we're too quiet! Not likely, but I hope so.

Let's go RED!
 
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After last Saturday, I admit my hopes for the season dwindled to two improbable things: Beating MN next week and then getting healthy for the F5 and making some sort of unlikely run there. Unfortunately, it sounded last night like the team and I are on the same page.
 
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I used to think UW attendance going down was mostly due to economics. I thought fan's loyaly to UW hockey would keep attendance up, kinda like the loyalty of Packer fans, but there is clearly more to this looking at how bad attendance is, last night was 8907. I myself decided not to attend any games because of the scoring/winning issues and I'm as rabid a UW hockey fan as there is, but I did only when I got ahold of 2 discounted tickets. The big question is would a coaching change invigorate the fans and make them come back? Sauer was a legend himself, and he was replaced with a legend in Eaves. How do you one-up a legendary guy like Eaves with a name that will suck the fans back into the KC? It just can't be a name, the guy has to be able to coach and recruit too. Maybe just the change itself would draw them back. The concern is once someone allocates that time slot in their lives to something else, it's hard to get them to ditch that new interest and switch back. Solovsfett and I know this first hand in being Indycar fans. Back in the mid 90's they were huge, then they had all sorts on internal political problems that fractured the series, and now that they are back to being a decently run organization, 90% of the lost fans didn't come back. I fear this same consequence for UW hockey. I guess by me typing this it means I'm ready to move on. It's been fun Mike, well, kinda.

Let's go RED!


IMO it's simply about winning. Perhaps at the Coliseum it was a little more about the experience, more the way Packer games are an experience, win or lose. (On the other hand, the Coliseum was filled with winners.) The Kohl is maybe a little less that way. Need only to look at bouncy ball history to see, though. Before Dick Bennet (and Stu Jackson) you could wait five minutes for some fan to negotiate the empty seats and retrieve a stray ball. Winning has filled the Kohl. Spend three or four or five years at the bottom and I've no doubt enthusiasm will begin to wane along with attendance.

When WI is consistently a top team playing meaningful games, 1 vs. 3; 5 vs. 2, etc., fans want to come, and because those games sell out, fans come to BSU and AA because they can actually get a decent ticket. Let's ask Gurt. If WI is 22-6 and ranked 3rd with #1 MN coming in, anybody think he doesn't rent a helicopter if necessary to get to that game?

For the last dozen years, WI simply hasn't been relevant often enough to carry enthusiasm through an occasional off year, generally in anticipation of the next year's return to dominance. We've had two great teams. I always thought expectation at WI would have been to have had 7 or 8 great teams? The fact is that statistically, we are a marginally better program than Bemidji State over the last ten years. (And despite records, perhaps not this year if the boys can't get it together tonight!) Play like Bemidji, draw like Bemidji. Where's the mystery?

As far as coaches, there's a thread for that, but I imagine some names would invigorate fans initially, but it really doesn't matter. If BillyJo Jim-Jack was hired and produced winners, the fan base would be there.

Just win, baby.
 
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I've had 4 season tickets for Saturday since 2006. I believe part of the attendance woes is as lack of marquee/traditional foe match-ups at home. No North Dakota, no Denver, no UMD, no Minnesota, (won't be making the 4hr trip from the Fox Cities for a "home' game in Chicago. Thanks, Barry) Can we really get pumped for UAH, Mankato, Bemidji, or a Monday night Penn State game? Then to lose many of those home games...:mad:
I started watching Badger hockey around 1980, PBS tape delay and all. This year's on-ice product simply cannot compare. My only solace from this year's season will be the games at the Dane County Colusseum vs. St. Cloud, if only as a reminder of a once-dominant past.
 
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BSU would love to draw 8000 for a game. Oh wait, our arena only seats 4300. :)

BSU currently shows all home games on PBS live in HD. Lakeland Public carries the game OTA, it is on DirecTV in the MSP market. It also shows up on "The Minnesota Channel", which is carried by all Minnesota PBS stations OTA and picked up by several cable providers. All told, most of Minnesota and parts of the Dakotas, Iowa and Wisconsin have access to BSU home games.

If BSU/Lakeland Public TV can pull it off, one would think UW could.
 
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