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dinner and a movie perhaps?
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Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
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That was implied!
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
Hopefully it was at least a Double Tree.
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
This photo that we've included in our report today is a lot more damaging than the photo of Nic out to dinner.
"@pulversports: @BioSteelSports at NHL Combine @NicKerdiles @AGally94 and the Yak. @Igor_Larionov @dtolensky"
All three players are holding bio steel products and an agent is tweeting that out and including the products name in the tweet. Not good.
We've also found the dinner photo as well, you can read the latest here.
This photo that we've included in our report today is a lot more damaging than the photo of Nic out to dinner.
"@pulversports: @BioSteelSports at NHL Combine @NicKerdiles @AGally94 and the Yak. @Igor_Larionov @dtolensky"
All three players are holding bio steel products and an agent is tweeting that out and including the products name in the tweet. Not good.
We've also found the dinner photo as well, you can read the latest here.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
Excellent.
Apparently Kerdiles camp has said this has to be resolved by Thursday or he walks away from UW. I can't see this getting cleaned up that quickly either way. I doubt the NC$$ would just totally wash this out. Even if it gets reduced to half, why would he want to miss any icetime? The only reason would be Eaves is worth the wait.
Excellent.
Apparently Kerdiles camp has said this has to be resolved by Thursday or he walks away from UW. I can't see this getting cleaned up that quickly either way. I doubt the NC$$ would just totally wash this out. Even if it gets reduced to half, why would he want to miss any icetime? The only reason would be Eaves is worth the wait.
Biddco
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I have a bigger problem with that shirt that guy is wearing.
Seriously though what a tough situation. I can see why the NCAA finds fault with that photo.
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
The majority of the blame is on the advisors in this case. Unfortunately, it's the kid who gets punished. We also don't know what else the NCAA could have looked into.
The majority of the blame is on the advisors in this case. Unfortunately, it's the kid who gets punished. We also don't know what else the NCAA could have looked into.
Biddco
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I have a bigger problem with that shirt that guy is wearing.
Seriously though what a tough situation. I can see why the NCAA finds fault with that photo.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
There aren't many people not named Bruce Campbell that can pull that shirt off. And you never ever pop the collar on a Hawaiian shirt. I don't even think they do that at BC.
dggoddard
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
If the suspension holds up, the player should fire & then sue sports agency for four years tuition & housing.
dggoddard
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
....Until March 23rd 2013.
willythekid
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
Why, I'm sure they did not hold a gun to his head...
Why, I'm sure they did not hold a gun to his head...
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
While the pictures clearly show bad judgement, I fail to see how they show any impermissible benefits to Kerdiles. How is that any different from someone taking a picture of a bunch of athletes at a tailgate holding can of a beverage (for example, Diet Coke) and then tweeting it? Being photographed holding or using a product isn't an endorsement of that product, social media definitely blurs the line on that, but provided that Kerdiles didn't actually recieve any compensation for the photograph, a one year suspension is completely excessive.
I bet that if BioSteel was an NCAA corporate sponsor this wouldn't even be an issue.
While the pictures clearly show bad judgement, I fail to see how they show any impermissible benefits to Kerdiles. How is that any different from someone taking a picture of a bunch of athletes at a tailgate holding can of a beverage (for example, Diet Coke) and then tweeting it? Being photographed holding or using a product isn't an endorsement of that product, social media definitely blurs the line on that, but provided that Kerdiles didn't actually recieve any compensation for the photograph, a one year suspension is completely excessive.
I bet that if BioSteel was an NCAA corporate sponsor this wouldn't even be an issue.
cross cheque
Make the playoffs, not war.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
I'd be really incensed by the Pulver Sports agents, as adults and sports agents they know what is and isn't acceptable and put a player's college career and possibly future in jeopardy. Real a-hole move by them.
I'd be really incensed by the Pulver Sports agents, as adults and sports agents they know what is and isn't acceptable and put a player's college career and possibly future in jeopardy. Real a-hole move by them.
Chuck Schwartz
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
John Infante, whose twitter title is, "Proprietor of the Bylaw Blog and NCAA Expert for Athnet" weighs in.
He also added on twitter, "Dinner from an agent is maybe 3-4 games. Has to be something else. "
John Infante, whose twitter title is, "Proprietor of the Bylaw Blog and NCAA Expert for Athnet" weighs in.
He also added on twitter, "Dinner from an agent is maybe 3-4 games. Has to be something else. "
Gandalf the Red
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
So now kids have to be worried about being in a picture that might get posted somewhere holding a product that they are then indirectly endorsing?
Come on NCAA, unless Nic received some sort of compensation for this, all he is guilty of is holding something in his hand while a picture was taken and smiling about it.
If the Duluth women's team can keep an NCAA title after having a player play half that season who played professionally in Europe for several games, Nic should get a slap on the wrist at best. W/ the NCAA the rules are never black and white nor administered the same way w/ regularity.
Advice to young players: talk to no one, only leave your house to play hockey and go to school, and even the second one is dangerous because you might be holding a pen and someone takes your picture and you are guilty of endorsing Bic.
So now kids have to be worried about being in a picture that might get posted somewhere holding a product that they are then indirectly endorsing?
Come on NCAA, unless Nic received some sort of compensation for this, all he is guilty of is holding something in his hand while a picture was taken and smiling about it.
If the Duluth women's team can keep an NCAA title after having a player play half that season who played professionally in Europe for several games, Nic should get a slap on the wrist at best. W/ the NCAA the rules are never black and white nor administered the same way w/ regularity.
Advice to young players: talk to no one, only leave your house to play hockey and go to school, and even the second one is dangerous because you might be holding a pen and someone takes your picture and you are guilty of endorsing Bic.
dggoddard
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
That being said, as "advisors" do have a responsibility to know the laws and rules of the United States, if they are conducting business down here, and that's why I would think that they could be held liable in a lawsuit. My 2 cents...
No matter what happens, this is very embarrassing to Pulver Sports.
Clearly they didn't know the NCAA rules and as a Toronto based agency its probably understandable. I'd guess that they don't have many other US college athletes as clients.
That being said, as "advisors" do have a responsibility to know the laws and rules of the United States, if they are conducting business down here, and that's why I would think that they could be held liable in a lawsuit. My 2 cents...
No matter what happens, this is very embarrassing to Pulver Sports.
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Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
My advice is an antique fountain pen from a now defunct company, or a quill and inkwell. Actually, I'm surprised that someone hasn't used one of those to sign his NLI.
My advice is an antique fountain pen from a now defunct company, or a quill and inkwell. Actually, I'm surprised that someone hasn't used one of those to sign his NLI.
UpNorthHockey
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XXI - For every dark night, there's a brighter day
Seems like the supplement photo, the dinner out photo and the online autograph give-aways might be what attracted NCAA attention, but I too, put the blame on Pulver for not acting in his client's best interest.
He's supposed to know how to advise an NCAA athlete. Instead, it looks like he was the crux of the problem.
The real shame is that Kerdiles is, by all accounts, very gifted academically.
The Major Junior teams all offer to pay your tuition.....while you're on the roster. Try getting to class between games....at a Canadian college.
Ian Pulver is no greenhorn...he's a major lawyer for the NHLPA and should be well versed in NCAA rules, particularly with the growing NCAA traffic to the NHL.
Seems like the supplement photo, the dinner out photo and the online autograph give-aways might be what attracted NCAA attention, but I too, put the blame on Pulver for not acting in his client's best interest.
He's supposed to know how to advise an NCAA athlete. Instead, it looks like he was the crux of the problem.
The real shame is that Kerdiles is, by all accounts, very gifted academically.
The Major Junior teams all offer to pay your tuition.....while you're on the roster. Try getting to class between games....at a Canadian college.
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