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Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
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Posick said something about Omaha on Twitter.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Rather have ASU. I can't imagine that NU would be ok with that either. Might as well add UMD too.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Wow, talk about tradition.
Wow, talk about tradition.
GBBadger14
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I could see Omaha or Miami, with ASU going to the NCHC. I think I'd prefer Miami. At least keep things in the Big Ten footprint.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Haven't posted here in a long time, my heart has kind of been ripped to shreds the last couple years. The Eaves firing made me sit up a bit and the Notre Dame news has brought me out of hibernation. The Big Ten had to do something, and this might be a little kick in the pants.
ASU being the eighth team would actually make some sense to me. Arizona has a ton of transplants from the Upper Midwest, or all the retirees from Minnesota/Wisconsin who spend their winters there. They could actually get some solid crowds down there, just like when the Packers or Vikings play in the desert.
Or, maybe Iowa or Illinois is ready to make the jump. Illinois is throwing cash at Lovie Smith for football. Who knows? Maybe they're finally ready to pretend they care about athletics.
Haven't posted here in a long time, my heart has kind of been ripped to shreds the last couple years. The Eaves firing made me sit up a bit and the Notre Dame news has brought me out of hibernation. The Big Ten had to do something, and this might be a little kick in the pants.
ASU being the eighth team would actually make some sense to me. Arizona has a ton of transplants from the Upper Midwest, or all the retirees from Minnesota/Wisconsin who spend their winters there. They could actually get some solid crowds down there, just like when the Packers or Vikings play in the desert.
Or, maybe Iowa or Illinois is ready to make the jump. Illinois is throwing cash at Lovie Smith for football. Who knows? Maybe they're finally ready to pretend they care about athletics.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Adding UND to the B6 puts even more pressure on the UW program to improve. It also takes away 4 n/c games, which is a-ok as long as they replace the Alaska's and Ferris St.s of the world and keep scheduling DU, the sue, Tech and some quality eastern teams on a regular basis.
Adding UND to the B6 puts even more pressure on the UW program to improve. It also takes away 4 n/c games, which is a-ok as long as they replace the Alaska's and Ferris St.s of the world and keep scheduling DU, the sue, Tech and some quality eastern teams on a regular basis.
robertearle
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Back when the Big Ten was getting ready to expand from eleven to twelve and then to fourteen, one part of the consideration was (believe it or not) a school's membership - or lack thereof - in the "Association of American Universities". The Big Ten is (or was) the only conference in the country whose members were all also members of the Association. Not even the Ivy League could boast such a thing. And when Rutgers and Maryland were added, there were indeed already members of the AAU.
(Shorty after their joining the Big Ten, U of Nebraska lost their AAU membership over some dispute concerning their Med School being too far "off campus" or some such. So at the moment, only 13 or the 14 are current members.)
So I was going to point out that neither Ariz State nor Nebraska-Omaha are AAU members. Then I was going to say "maybe the Big Ten won't be as strict with 'affiliated members' as they are with full members...". But when I was checking the list of AAU members to see if ASU was there, I saw that Notre Dame is also (surpisingly) not a member.
So I guess that they are in fact not as strict with "affiliated members".
(This also means I have to update a favorite 'bar' trivia question: it now goes "name the SIXteen schools that compete for Big Ten sports championships". Answer is the regular fourteen, now Notre Dame, and ... Johns Hopkins, affiliated member for lacrosse)
Back when the Big Ten was getting ready to expand from eleven to twelve and then to fourteen, one part of the consideration was (believe it or not) a school's membership - or lack thereof - in the "Association of American Universities". The Big Ten is (or was) the only conference in the country whose members were all also members of the Association. Not even the Ivy League could boast such a thing. And when Rutgers and Maryland were added, there were indeed already members of the AAU.
(Shorty after their joining the Big Ten, U of Nebraska lost their AAU membership over some dispute concerning their Med School being too far "off campus" or some such. So at the moment, only 13 or the 14 are current members.)
So I was going to point out that neither Ariz State nor Nebraska-Omaha are AAU members. Then I was going to say "maybe the Big Ten won't be as strict with 'affiliated members' as they are with full members...". But when I was checking the list of AAU members to see if ASU was there, I saw that Notre Dame is also (surpisingly) not a member.
So I guess that they are in fact not as strict with "affiliated members".
(This also means I have to update a favorite 'bar' trivia question: it now goes "name the SIXteen schools that compete for Big Ten sports championships". Answer is the regular fourteen, now Notre Dame, and ... Johns Hopkins, affiliated member for lacrosse)
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
The use of the word "sports" makes that bit of trivia tricky. The University of Chicago still participates in the academic Big Ten, so a weaselly fellow might say that there are 17 schools competing for Big Ten titles.
The use of the word "sports" makes that bit of trivia tricky. The University of Chicago still participates in the academic Big Ten, so a weaselly fellow might say that there are 17 schools competing for Big Ten titles.
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Personally I think it's a bull**** move. We snub traditions like the old WCHA (ND, CC, DU UMD, etc), start the BTHC for BTN, then add these guys? **** 'em.
"Show me the money."
Personally I think it's a bull**** move. We snub traditions like the old WCHA (ND, CC, DU UMD, etc), start the BTHC for BTN, then add these guys? **** 'em.
"Show me the money."
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
For me who the 8th is will be telling. Once the WCHA added UNO and Bemidji, it stopped being attractive to me. One of the biggest initial attraction of the Big 6 was the flexibility to schedule quality non conference opponents, and generally we have done that (North Dakota, Denver, BC, BU, etc.). If you add a Miami as the eight...I'm pretty happy. If you add ASU...yuck.
For me who the 8th is will be telling. Once the WCHA added UNO and Bemidji, it stopped being attractive to me. One of the biggest initial attraction of the Big 6 was the flexibility to schedule quality non conference opponents, and generally we have done that (North Dakota, Denver, BC, BU, etc.). If you add a Miami as the eight...I'm pretty happy. If you add ASU...yuck.
Yeah, this is rubbing salt in the wound.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Posted back when Bryan Adams got his first real six string. ( I believe it came from the five and dime.)
Posted back when Bryan Adams got his first real six string. ( I believe it came from the five and dime.)
Original WCHA Members- MTU said:
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
When Notre Dame voted on joining the Big Ten as a full member in '99 or so, the faculty senate voted yes because of the academic benefits of joining the Committee on Institutional Cooperation. It was the board of trustees that voted down the invitation.
Not sure if Johns Hopkins would be invited to join the CIC but it would be an intriguing move. Notre Dame less so since it's not a research-focused school (a lot of the research at Big Ten schools that involves subjects like stem cell research wouldn't fly at Notre Dame given that it's a Catholic school).
I've thrown my towel in on the traditions. They're dead, we just have to deal with it.
When Notre Dame voted on joining the Big Ten as a full member in '99 or so, the faculty senate voted yes because of the academic benefits of joining the Committee on Institutional Cooperation. It was the board of trustees that voted down the invitation.
Not sure if Johns Hopkins would be invited to join the CIC but it would be an intriguing move. Notre Dame less so since it's not a research-focused school (a lot of the research at Big Ten schools that involves subjects like stem cell research wouldn't fly at Notre Dame given that it's a Catholic school).
I've thrown my towel in on the traditions. They're dead, we just have to deal with it.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Pretend that the WCHA and those traditions never existed coz they're never coming back.
With that in mind - if this is happening in a vacuum - is adding Notre Dame to our existing 6 team conference a good thing?
Of course it is.
Pretend that the WCHA and those traditions never existed coz they're never coming back.
With that in mind - if this is happening in a vacuum - is adding Notre Dame to our existing 6 team conference a good thing?
Of course it is.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Yeah, I'm not going to complain about it. If Iowa, Purdue, Northwestern, etc. aren't doing it anytime soon, then Notre Dame as an affiliate is a pretty ideal fit.
Yeah, I'm not going to complain about it. If Iowa, Purdue, Northwestern, etc. aren't doing it anytime soon, then Notre Dame as an affiliate is a pretty ideal fit.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Me as well, but I take it a step further, I disliked it when SCSU joined. I don't think it's a necessity to have an 8th team. The 7th team doesn't make the playoffs. Other than UW's improbable WCHA tourney win a few years ago, the top 2 teams win the tourney anyway.
Me as well, but I take it a step further, I disliked it when SCSU joined. I don't think it's a necessity to have an 8th team. The 7th team doesn't make the playoffs. Other than UW's improbable WCHA tourney win a few years ago, the top 2 teams win the tourney anyway.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
I might only sort of care about Michigan and Michigan State. Ohio State, Notre Dame and that one program who's athletic department should've been dismantled 4 years ago... they don't mean much to me now. But in 10 years time? We very well might look at them the same way we looked at SCSU five years ago.
OR 1st seed hosts the semis and finals and seeds 2-4 host 5-7 in the quarters?
A different perspective for all the changes we've seen... a lot of people might have thought that when SCSU (or Mankato, etc.) joined. And look where they were by the end of the WCHA.
I might only sort of care about Michigan and Michigan State. Ohio State, Notre Dame and that one program who's athletic department should've been dismantled 4 years ago... they don't mean much to me now. But in 10 years time? We very well might look at them the same way we looked at SCSU five years ago.
OR 1st seed hosts the semis and finals and seeds 2-4 host 5-7 in the quarters?
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LordofBrewtown
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!
Agreed. If they have to go 8, and the NCHC poach rumor is true, I'd hope it's NoDak or Duluth. I'd even prefer Tech to Omaha or SCSU - just stay at 7. Repeating myself; but, I really hope they don't go to more than 24 conf games if they go to 8 teams - any more reduces the non-conference schedule, and I'd like to still see Duluth, NoDak and Tech every few years.
Agreed. If they have to go 8, and the NCHC poach rumor is true, I'd hope it's NoDak or Duluth. I'd even prefer Tech to Omaha or SCSU - just stay at 7. Repeating myself; but, I really hope they don't go to more than 24 conf games if they go to 8 teams - any more reduces the non-conference schedule, and I'd like to still see Duluth, NoDak and Tech every few years.
GBBadger14
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I say get to 8, best of 3 quarterfinals on campus sites, then semis and championship at a neutral site, like Chicago.
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