WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, What?

[The Rube]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

No, that's not a cfb. I'd have been fine with boarding due to the awkward way that the Gopher went into the boards.

A 5 and game dq is too much for that and the ref should have had the sense to realize that and make the right call.

The consequences of the call far outweighed the infraction.

To be honest, if that first cfb had never happened, I may have been more open to the second call as it was close to the headhunting hits that need to be eliminated.

I think that 2nd one was based on the result of the hit (as Serratore immediately went to the locker room) rather than the hit itself. I thought it was a 2 minute, personally.

 

[Gurtholfin]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

I think that 2nd one was based on the result of the hit (as Serratore immediately went to the locker room) rather than the hit itself. I thought it was a 2 minute, personally.

Any update on Serratore?

 

[The Rube]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Any update on Serratore?

Haven't heard anything yet. Hope he's ok. While not the flashiest player, I like the kid a lot. He's a grinder, reminds me of tDon2 (Tony Lucia). Plays hard, doesn't show up on the stat sheet, is an X-factor type of player.

 

[Gurtholfin]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Haven't heard anything yet. Hope he's ok. While not the flashiest player, I like the kid a lot. He's a grinder, reminds me of tDon2 (Tony Lucia). Plays hard, doesn't show up on the stat sheet, is an X-factor type of player.

The head stuff is scary.

We had a kid take a hit in a bantam pre-season scrimmage who still has post-concussion symptoms and who is out for the season. Maybe out for good.


Hopefully, Serratore is fine or will be soon.

 

[The Rube]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

The head stuff is scary.

We had a kid take a hit in a bantam pre-season scrimmage who still has post-concussion symptoms and who is out for the season. Maybe out for good.


Hopefully, Serratore is fine or will be soon.

Agreed on the head stuff. One thing we can all agree on: it's better to err on the side of caution with these hits, and hopefully players will learn not to put themselves in position to make a dangerous hit.

 

[Almington]

Agreed on the head stuff. One thing we can all agree on: it's better to err on the side of caution with these hits, and hopefully players will learn not to put themselves in position to make a dangerous hit.

While the refs are the ones who call the penalties, it is the players who are solely responsible for their stupid actionsand deserve a major + misconduct when they cross the stupid line to the dangerous to other player area. The key is to make those calls consistanly by all officials in all games.

 

[The Rube]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

While the refs are the ones who call the penalties, it is the players who are solely responsible for their stupid actionsand deserve a major + misconduct when they cross the stupid line to the dangerous to other player area. The key is to make those calls consistantly by all officials in all games.

Oh, what a pipe dream that is.......

 

[Almington]

Oh, what a pipe dream that is.......

Which is why they say when you want to win you have to beat:
1.) your opponent (for the things they do right)
2.) yourself (overcoming the mistakes you make)
3.) the officials (for the calls they miss)

If you are not good enough to overcome all three, you were not good enough to win on that particular night.

 

[Badger Booster]

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Not to sound like a shill for Coach Eaves, but he's shown a lot of leadership over the last couple of weeks including last night. Also credit Shuchuk and the players for stepping up when things kept getting bleaker, but Eaves is the face of this team.

I'm not saying other coaches wouldn't have done the same, but I really liked the way he was stood up for LaBate and Barnes getting the gate, not only during the game but afterwards. Plus, the decision to start Peterson couldn't have been easy.

Hopefully, the team isn't completely emotionally spent after last night. I know this, I'm pretty sure that Eaves will be dialed in again knowing that getting another point (hopefully a win) would be a great start to getting this season turned around.

 

[icehawk]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Who is all on the injured reserve for your guys right now?

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Who is all on the injured reserve for your guys right now?

Just Zengerle. Obviously Kerdiles is out too with the NCAA stuff.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Not to sound like a shill for Coach Eaves, but he's shown a lot of leadership over the last couple of weeks including last night. Also credit Shuchuk and the players for stepping up when things kept getting bleaker, but Eaves is the face of this team.

I'm not saying other coaches wouldn't have done the same, but I really liked the way he was stood up for LaBate and Barnes getting the gate, not only during the game but afterwards. Plus, the decision to start Peterson couldn't have been easy.

Hopefully, the team isn't completely emotionally spent after last night. I know this, I'm pretty sure that Eaves will be dialed in again knowing that getting another point (hopefully a win) would be a great start to getting this season turned around.

true...but that's his job. I'd expect nothing less.He's got a lot riding on this season, I really liked what he brought to the team in terms of attitude and hard work his first 4 years but man since then there's only been one season of note (2010).

I'm hoping UW can play tonight like they did last night. if they come out of mpls w/2points that would be a great (if unexpected) result and something to build on while playing w/out their two best point producers (and yes, I'm putting Kerdiles in there based on hype).

 

[solovsfett]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Pete Johnson had all he could do to run Eagle's Nest and when he filled in on the women's team, they didn't do so well.

Pete's a good guy, but no dinosaurs.

I'm hoping that Eaves is looking for a younger, eager guy. Get someone in that position with some energy and enthusiasm.

I was unaware of Pete Johnson's post-UW endeavors...

agreed on getting a younger, eager to work and learn guy w/enthusiasm.

 

[Stauber1]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Hesitant to delve into this topic in your season thread as I'm not looking for a flame-fest, but you strike me as a reasonalbe poster.

I was kind of the opposite. I thought the call on the hit on Serratore was fairly legitimate, although I was surprised to see it called as 5 given the earlier major the refs had already handed out. He made contact with Serratore's head. Serratore was leaning forward, but he still made contact with the head. That is just something that you can't do in this day and age.

The hit on Haula I don't think was a 5 at all. Maybe worthy of a boarding minor, but nothing more. Labate hit him slightly from behind, but he didn't hit him that hard, and Haula had time to turn himself and absorb the boards with his shoulder. The hit was no more dangerous than hitting someone shoulder-to-shoulder into the boards. I thought that call was a real stinker.

I could see how the CFB was called, although I didn't like it with my red-colored glasses on. Definitely not able to make sense of the call on Barnes though. How that was a hit to the head major is beyond me. Should've been a minor.

To echo my sentiments in the series thread, I am pleasantly surprised by tonight.

 

[Badger Booster]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Hesitant to delve into this topic in your season thread as I'm not looking for a flame-fest, but you strike me as a reasonalbe poster.

I was kind of the opposite. I thought the call on the hit on Serratore was fairly legitimate, although I was surprised to see it called as 5 given the earlier major the refs had already handed out. He made contact with Serratore's head. Serratore was leaning forward, but he still made contact with the head. That is just something that you can't do in this day and age.

The hit on Haula I don't think was a 5 at all. Maybe worthy of a boarding minor, but nothing more. Labate hit him slightly from behind, but he didn't hit him that hard, and Haula had time to turn himself and absorb the boards with his shoulder. The hit was no more dangerous than hitting someone shoulder-to-shoulder into the boards. I thought that call was a real stinker.

Well, he did say the hit to the head should have been a minor, so there's not really a big disagreement. I thought Barnes' penalty was dumb (ended a Badger power play), but not a 5-minute major/game disqualification. That after LaBate's ejection which was more ridiculous made it even tougher. With all apologies to Mersch and perhaps Lee, the Badgers were finishing off that game with a bunch of 3rd/4th liners.

 

[icehawk]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

Just Zengerle. Obviously Kerdiles is out too with the NCAA stuff.

Thanks.

 

[solovsfett]

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jesus christ.

ok bright side - Mccabe is playing well, Schulze will be very good by the time he's done. I like what I see in Drake and Faust is playing better.

now the rest - Rumpel let in a hell of a soft goal, some guys who have gotten some accolades in the past like Lee and Barnes are just not stepping up. IMO either they step up or move Navin and Paape into their positions. give em a chance on the top lines.

1-5-2 is just flat-out unacceptable. You can't consider yourself a college hockey power and accept this, you just can't. not the current record and not 4 of 6 years out of the ncaa's (possibly soon to be 5 of 7). I fear by the time Zengerle and Kerdiles are both playing making the ncaa's will be a scenario where they'll have to make a HUGE run and win about 14 or so games out of the last 18.

 

[bucky15]

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Step in the right direction, but like the last post stated....we need wins not steps in the right direction. 1-5-2 is just sad. Our offense talent is just brutal to watch, no one can finish. Eaves is no longer untouchable, I feel he will get this year and next and the way things are moving it will be done after that.

 

[Gurtholfin]

Re: WISCONSIN Hockey Vol. 22 - Let's not have another cheesy thread title... Wait, W

This is a bad team. Poorly coached. Short on talent. Undisciplined. No heart. All on display tonight.

This team fails time and again to execute the most basic of plays that even a bantam team should be able to do.

- skating with the puck and losing the puck while unchallenged
- flubbed pass and shot attempts, again while unchallenged
- passes to open team mates that are in the feet or behind the skater
- passes directly to opponents
- losing the puck at our own blue line and failing to get the puck out
- failing to get the puck deep and allowing transition

In addition...

We lost board battle after board battle. This is an area where talent isn't so much of an issue. Comes down to will and focus. Both are lacking.

As has been the case in the past couple of years, we're making passes and/or passing into traffic when shots are available.

The power play is still awful. The five on three tonight where it looked like we had all the time in the world to stand around was very impressive.

How many times can a player fall down or lose an edge when no one is near him? One of them cost us a goal.

Had at least 4 or 5 shots tonight that were blocked right at the point and allowed the Gophers to attack immediately in transition. You CANNOT TAKE THOSE SHOTS!

The first two goals should normally be saved. Rumpel had a good game, but the Gophers missed at least 3 or 4 gimmes. This game should have been a blowout.

Rammage's whiffed hip-check was a stupid play. You cannot take that risk at that point. By missing, he assured that his momentum would carry him far from the play. Definitely not a thinking man's player.

Simonelli's knee penalty when we're trying to tie the game was the brain fart equivalent of sharting. Dumb, dumb, dumb.


Very poorly put together team and very poorly coached. There also appears to be zero leadership from any of the individual players.

Of course, all will be cured when Zengerle returns and when we get a new assistant coach and when we don't have a player suspended by the NCAA and when we don't have two early season bye weeks and when we can practice on an appropriately sized ice surface and when we can put some horses in the barn and when monkeys swing from the hemorrhoids hanging from my butthole.

 

[solovsfett]

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Gurt...man I have to agree with most of what you're saying. I've been trying hard not to pile on the team on this board after how hard I was on them last year for what I perceived as a dearth of talent. I have to say at least amongst the forwards I feel exactly the same way as I did last year. there are about 8 guys that simply cannot score, so if they can't score they better bring something to the table that will help the team win.

I don't know, I just don't see a way to right the ship right now.

EDIT - and to add insult to injury OSU (who I don't consider a great team by any means) sweeps NMU to put more perspective on where UW stands right now.