Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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And the response was.... fold up.

Miller just got manhandled going for that loose puck behind the Hammer to make it 4-2.

If we played tomorrow I'd sit Baker.

There are about 6 guys that have bought in and sell out every shift. There are about 12 guys that play hard when it seems fun to do.

 

[druzy192]

And the response was.... fold up.

Miller just got manhandled going for that loose puck behind the Hammer to make it 4-2.

If we played tomorrow I'd sit Baker.

There are about 6 guys that have bought in and sell out every shift. There are about 12 guys that play hard when it seems fun to do.

Teams underachieving. There is again a sever lack of discipline and hard work. Alot of slackers on this team who will not get down and block shots and wont go in the corners to win battles.

Granato and his buddies look like they're running a country club not a hockey team.

 

[digitalbooya]

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And the response was.... fold up.

Miller just got manhandled going for that loose puck behind the Hammer to make it 4-2.

If we played tomorrow I'd sit Baker.

There are about 6 guys that have bought in and sell out every shift. There are about 12 guys that play hard when it seems fun to do.

I've about had it with having pairings with two left handed defensemen on them as well. Can really see how it makes a difference. Guys don't know where they are supposed to be.

 

[digitalbooya]

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Teams underachieving. There is again a sever lack of discipline and hard work. Alot of slackers on this team who will not get down and block shots and wont go in the corners to win battles.

Granato and his buddies look like they're running a country club not a hockey team.

Pretty much. When are we going to get a real coach.

 

[druzy192]

Pretty much. When are we going to get a real coach.

Coaching staff is looking like ****. You got 6 draft picks on defense right? Or something? And they turn the puck over and lose battles in the corners all the time. And nobody EVER gets down to block a shot. And you never know what's gonna happen when they make a break out pass! Might be right to the other team in the slot... who knows.

How in God's name does a coaching staff with 6 draft picks on defense have these guys playing this bad?

Country Club Atmosphere

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Coaching staff is looking like ****. You got 6 draft picks on defense right? Or something? And they turn the puck over and lose battles in the corners all the time. And nobody EVER gets down to block a shot. And you never know what's gonna happen when they make a break out pass! Might be right to the other team in the slot... who knows.

How in God's name does a coaching staff with 6 draft picks on defense have these guys playing this bad?

Country Club Atmosphere

The Country club atmosphere thing sounds a little like you'd like them to be skating Herbies after the game tonight. That was all fine and good 40 years ago, but no successful coach today coaches like that. Because it doesn't work anymore.

I listened to Oz on the post game and I think he's pretty much right. (Also he's pretty ****ed at Baker for taking a penalty after the horn down a goal in a game that your team was dominating to that point.) Oz can't make the break out passes for the guys, Strobie can't win the puck battles and Granato can't put it in the net. They can show them how, but at some point the guys on the ice have to do the job. They are clearly capable because they play really well for long stretches. But when adversity pops up they repeatedly freeze up, lose their mojo, and go into a nosedive. You can coach maturity until your blue in the face but maturity doesn't come from coaching, it comes from experience and understanding and at some point these guys will get it. When that is, is anybody's guess. Could be tonight. Could be next week. Could be next year.

 

[WiscTJK]

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Wisko I want to believe but we are in year four with this staff, with 12 draft picks, and they don't seem to improve, and keep making the same mistakes over and over and over.

I'm just so sick of mediocre hockey and that's what we have this year again with all these high end freshman.

We were very lucky to get the win last night and now a loss tonight.

I would think the coaching seats are going to warm up quick if this continues this year.....

 

[gwhinwi]

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I have updated the Faceoff stats spreadsheet (and my ignore list.)

Quite the fun evening.

 

[solovsfett]

Teams underachieving. There is again a sever lack of discipline and hard work. Alot of slackers on this team who will not get down and block shots and wont go in the corners to win battles.

Granato and his buddies look like they're running a country club not a hockey team.

!

 

[solovsfett]

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You know what’s Interesting about the country club comment is Jeff Sauer was accused of running a loose ship/country club mentality.

Who did all 3 of these coaches play for?

...The dream staff with the dream recruits are 5-5 and the kids by and large aren't Improving year over year,...

 

[digitalbooya]

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I knew I heard the name Abate before. Former Wisconsin recruit. Had committed to play for Eaves. He scored the game winning goal...

 

[MadCityRich]

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The most discussed topic going into this year was the incoming elite talent and if the staff can coach 'em up OR be able to handle them. What seems to be lost is what will they do to improve the returning players and the team in general. Im sure 99% of the fans are disappointed to date.

The same problems remain; power play, face offs, defense, DISCIPLINE.

Where do we see team improvement over last year?

Of the returning players, who has progressed or regressed?

I'm beginning to put my socks back on.

 

[digitalbooya]

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-S. Dhooghe has 1g 0a in his last 6 games
-Pelton-Byce has 1g 0a in his last 6 games
-Holloway has 0g 1a in his last 5 games
-Baker has 0g 2a in his last 7 games
-Lindmark has 1g 2a in his last 7 games
-Weissbach has 0g 3a in his last 6 games


-Ahcan has 3g 3a in his last 5 games
-Turcotte has 3g 1a in his last 4 games (has a point in every game he has played in except the series at PSU)
-Caufield has 2g 3a in his last 7 games (3 game goal scoring drought for "Goal")


Ladies and gentlemen, our top 9. Three guys doing great to decent offensively and six passengers. Looking them all over, Weissbach and Holloway are the biggest disappointments for me based on my expectations of them and their role.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Where do we see team improvement over last year?

Of the returning players, who has progressed or regressed?

IMO:


Guys who are improved over last year-

Inamoto - Weissbach - Gorniak - Messner - Achan - Peltonen - Lebedeff

Guys who are good and just play the same every shift so it's hard to say they're better, but likely they are-

Emberson - Ess

Guys who are not better, are worse, or are struggling to meet expectations-

Kalynuk - Miller - Baker - Dhooghe


Mixed bag/ limited ice time / hard to say:

Mersch -J Dhooghe - Zimmer - B Caufield - Jackie Bear


I thought Dhooghe was better the last 3-4 games, but man, he's had 8-10 wide open nets he's fanned on the last 2 weeks. Have to have those goals. Miller has no nastiness at all to his game, which he did have before getting injured toward the end of last year. He's just not the same to me. Wyatt is a talented player, but he's not making the guys around him better, he's making them work harder. Bakes -- I don't know, he seems a little lost. I think maybe he's been trying to do too much on and off the ice. Just get back to a simple game and lead by example with hard work.

 

[MAVFANJEFF]

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It was good to see quite a few Badger fans last night. Glad they had good weather to drive home in. I thought your team looked pretty good.

 

[MadCityRich]

It was good to see quite a few Badger fans last night. Glad they had good weather to drive home in. I thought your team looked pretty good.

Baxter looks like a great venue. It's an easy drive to Omaha, but that's one trip in the real WCHA days I regret not taking.

 

[druzy192]

The Country club atmosphere thing sounds a little like you'd like them to be skating Herbies after the game tonight. That was all fine and good 40 years ago, but no successful coach today coaches like that. Because it doesn't work anymore.

I listened to Oz on the post game and I think he's pretty much right. (Also he's pretty ****ed at Baker for taking a penalty after the horn down a goal in a game that your team was dominating to that point.) Oz can't make the break out passes for the guys, Strobie can't win the puck battles and Granato can't put it in the net. They can show them how, but at some point the guys on the ice have to do the job. They are clearly capable because they play really well for long stretches. But when adversity pops up they repeatedly freeze up, lose their mojo, and go into a nosedive. You can coach maturity until your blue in the face but maturity doesn't come from coaching, it comes from experience and understanding and at some point these guys will get it. When that is, is anybody's guess. Could be tonight. Could be next week. Could be next year.

Other coaches with less talented players do make their defenseman make simple breakout passes.. do make their players get down and block shots.. do make their players work hard and win battles in the corners...do pick up the open guy in the slot. These are simple non talent related things.

Well I dont know if the coach "makes" them... but they do it. And if you've watched the Badgers over the last few years then you know this team doesn't do it. They just dont. And I'm about sick of watching this underachieving crap.

 

[sunprairie]

Other coaches with less talented players do make their defenseman make simple breakout passes.. do make their players get down and block shots.. do make their players work hard and win battles in the corners...do pick up the open guy in the slot. These are simple non talent related things.

Well I dont know if the coach "makes" them... but they do it. And if you've watched the Badgers over the last few years then you know this team doesn't do it. They just dont. And I'm about sick of watching this underachieving crap.

Re: getting down and blocking shots - that is the one thing that is noticeable with the loss of Peter Tischke. He was a shot-blocking machine, and players around him followed suit simply out of respect for the Captain. I assume the coaches are teaching and advocating it, but it seems like one of those “in the trenches” things that needs a leader on the ice setting the example and I haven’t seen that yet this year. I know this is a more offensive-minded defense, but without that balance there is too much pressure on the G and it becomes a real problem when the goal-sniping youngsters hit a slump.

 

[bigus]

It was good to see quite a few Badger fans last night. Glad they had good weather to drive home in. I thought your team looked pretty good.

I was there with a crew. Really enjoyed the arena and all the fans were excellent, just the right amount of good natured banter.

 

[Timothy A]

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Yes the coaches can't play for the players, but they recruit them, they hand pick the guys they want and train them to play how they want them to play. Teams take on the personalities of their coaches. TG is a emotional, fiery guy. How many head coaches have that as their main characteristic?

I just think all the hype dis-serves the players by putting too much pressure on them. It does not help one bit.

Lately I've had this crazy thought...…..I miss Mike Eaves...…..I said it was crazy.