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Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

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digitalbooya said:
Holloway hasn’t even been drafted yet. For instance, if the Wild were to take him in the top 10, I would definitely see him back next year.

Also, Turcotte has been awesome. He’s not going to wow you with anything, but he does everything really well. He’s like a Koivu/Kopitar/Bergeron type.
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It doesn't matter.
*He has NO ties to the Badgers, Madison, or the state.
*If he and his "family advisor" see that the Badger experience isn't making him better OR it's holding him back, and the team is going nowhere........

*He could go to the AHL.
*Get paid.
*Play more than 20 games.
*Get NHL type coaching.
 
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MadCityRich said:
It doesn't matter.
*He has NO ties to the Badgers, Madison, or the state.
*If he and his "family advisor" see that the Badger experience isn't making him better OR it's holding him back, and the team is going nowhere........

*He could go to the AHL.
*Get paid.
*Play more than 20 games.
*Get NHL type coaching.
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On the flip side, it's clear Holloway really wants to be here. He endured massive pressure from the WHL in order to be a Badger, first from Everett and then when Winnipeg traded a 5th and conditional 1st and 2nd round picks just to get his rights this summer. He could be starring at home right now in Major Junior in front of big crowds, but he stayed the course and was totally committed to coming to Madison.
I know who his advisor is and there's no reason to think anyone there would push him to leave early. As with all these guys, it will depend largely on which team drafts him. There is some talk lately around the NHL about how Detroit is having more success in player development by letting their kids percolate longer at lower levels, more the way everyone used to before the CBA changed and made youngsters cheap labor. I think they've been smart and hopefully that catches on.

All these guys should play two minimum IMO. You could argue Caufield is only going to be asked to shoot the puck so he could do that anytime, including right now. But if he wants to be more than just a PP shooter guy, he should probably practice and lift weights and prepare until he's 20 at least. He probably won't, but he should.
 
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DPlaya said:
Nobody else has commented, but I think Caufield's size and defense are a liability. Sean Dhooghe seems better at protecting the puck and attacking players that have the puck. If he moves up after this year it will be a mistake for offense only IMO.
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On C Caufield's size and puck protection:

Every now and then, he seems to try to make a lot of big plays that simply won't work, and that's when he ends up on the ice in one direction while the puck is going the other direction. I'm particularly thinking of those plays where he's taking on a 1-on-2 situation for a big payoff if he can juuuuussst get that pass or shot away on the other side.

Other times, he CAN make big plays and it's awesome. It looks like he sometimes digs into the bag of tricks that worked consistently last year but not at this level (he did play some college teams, of course). Hopefully that's one of those "steep improvement curve" situations for the talented freshman.

It kinda-sorta reminds me of what Devils fans have said about Jack Hughes in his first handful of NHL games versus his more recent games, with the obvious difference that Caufield had the smaller jump and has been producing from the get-go.

This comparison may be a ridiculous and big stretch to a very different sport, but I'm thinking of Lauren Carlini at the beginning versus later on in her college career. (Might be a good comparison in that it's a hyped up freshman showing obvious talent right away.) Her immediate impact was obvious, and she wowed us with the tip plays when she dumped the ball on 2. After more time in the Big Ten, she seemed to reel it in and therefore attempt it less often, but when she did, it always seemed like the right play (often one that other setters probably don't make). She probably made that play just as often, but the unsuccessful attempts (which almost amount to a free-ball giveaway) were replaced by better attacking chances. I have no stats or comprehensive film study to back this up, so I could be talking out of my аss.

We've seen the talent, and it's reasonable to hope for noticeable improvement (even on top of his already high level) as the season goes on for C Caufield.
 
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Wisko McBadgerton said:
He could be starring at home right now in Major Junior in front of big crowds,
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Hey now, as much as we bash ourselves for attendance woes, even mediocre Badgers crowds must easily beat the WHL (especially since their biggest draws are in more cavernous venues)! :D
 
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WiscDC said:
Hey now, as much as we bash ourselves for attendance woes, even mediocre Badgers crowds must easily beat the WHL (especially since their biggest draws are in more cavernous venues)! :D
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Badger crowds, yes. College hockey in general, not so much. I think the majority of WHL teams draw in the 4-6k range. Calgary probably averages the most in the 9-10k range. Winnipeg, being a new team, probably has to get going on building a fanbase yet.
 
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WiscDC said:
We've seen the talent, and it's reasonable to hope for noticeable improvement (even on top of his already high level) as the season goes on for C Caufield.
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I think Caufield has played better without the puck in stretches as we've gone along. He could play much better though, as I think he's a bit underrated as a skater. Obviously his job is to put the puck in the net, but I think because he has good skates and great vision, he should be a guy that causes more turnovers on the forecheck and in the neutral zone at this level. That's the kind of thing he needs to build into his game to play regular shifts in the NHL.
 
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Alrighty then. GAME DAY!!!

So stop with the all the negativity Moriarty! Hope springs eternal on Game Day!

Really lookin' like DPlaya is actually Tony Granato. Achan will be up and Bakes will be down just as DPlaya called for.

I'm personally all over this as arguably Roman Achan has been the best player on the team the last two weeks. That kid wants to win every shift. Hopefully Bakes can get back to doing what he does best, which is disrupt the other guys and cause havoc all over the ice.

Last week was either a wake up call for the boys, or the beginning of the long slow plod through to mediocrity. I'm in favor of the former. Both top Centers are healthy and playing the opener for the first time since the UMD series. Everybody should finally be over the flu. Time to get this season back on track with a Friday road win in the Nacho.

Let's go RED!
 
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Thought Holloway's line and TPB's line look pretty good with the changes. Turcotte's line looks terrible as does the PP. Lot's of standing around with those guys. Miller has to have 5-6 TO's already.

With the high camera and wide angle, everybody looks a little slow, but I still wonder if that ice isn't kind of soft.

Need to kill this cheapie on Holloway and get a little more jump in our step. Less puck watching more skating.

Omaha has a good forecheck and are hard in the corners. Announcers call it the best period of the season by the Mav's.
 
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Good lord, 15 seconds there Goal turned the puck over twice and then followed it up by stepping offside for no reason and killing a 3-2.
 
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Well, we're ahead. I don't think we looked great a lot of this game, just sloppy with the puck a lot of times. Give credit to the Mavs though, as they are getting sticks in the way a lot and playing hard every shift.

Not much flow to the game with all the whistles to be fair. 9 total PP's in the game. Mavs pk is aggressive and our entry is lackadaisical so that makes for a lot of boring ice time skating after pucks.

Pk has been good and The Hammer has been huge. Just have to buckle down now and skate hard for 20 and get the W, boys.
 
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MSU beat Penn State 2-0...so that's weird.

What else is weird is watching the Gophers play. Saw them tonight and they dont look good. Not the fast and talented Gophers I'm used to seeing. They look slow and clunky.

That's fine by me bc I cant stand goofer hockey... just weird.
 
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You have to win some when you don't have you best stuff.

This game was won in the net and in the face off circle. Especially big defensive draw wins in the third. The individual play by Turcotte to turn the tide with a goal when the Badgers were up against it was huge as well.

Road win is big. Need to be better tomorrow and get the sweep.
 
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Was great to hear a solid finish. When it got to 3-2 I got a little anxious. As WMB mentioned, nice to get a win when you're not at your best.
 
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