Wisconsin Hockey 2018-2019 Part 2: Still not time for the witty thread title.

[WiscTJK]

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That's crap. How can you have that call without someone going into the box?

Because that referee crew was a bunch of clowns. They were a joke all weekend. The non-call on the delay of game as the Michigan player was in the net and just lifted it off the moorings was the worst one of the weekend. Granato was going crazy and neither ref went over to talk to him. Saturday behind the play a Michigan player checked a Wisconsin player in the head with the ref watching and no call.

 

[KaMiGo]

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That's crap. How can you have that call without someone going into the box?

I think my memories of the two games were running together...The Granato waving the G to the bench was from Friday night. Feel free to ignore the rest of the post, or read it if you want some possible obscure officiating references
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They could have used the somewhat obscure "Premature Substitution" rule and called it as the player who came on early was replacing the goalkeeper.

In the video replays that I have seen, TG was dramatically waving to get The Hammer to the bench for the extra attacker.

Per 75.1 in the rules, if a substituting player comes on before the goalkeeper is within 5 feet of the bench it is a stoppage and reset, but not a "timeout" penalty

There shall be no time penalty to the team making the premature substitution, but the resulting face-off will take place at the center ice face-off spot when play is stopped beyond the center red line. When play is stopped prior to the center red line, the resulting face-off shall be conducted at the nearest face-off spot in the zone where the play was stopped.

Partner that with 93.4 which calls out the allowable review items

To determine if a goal was scored as a result of an offside play or as the result of an undetected too many men on the ice infraction by the attacking team

and mix in a dash of 93.7 which talks about review part/review all
When any aspect of the video replay criteria is challenged, it allows the referee to utilize all aspects of the review criteria to be judged (e.g., high stick challenged, but video shows the puck was kicked into the goal).

I think the correct call was made according to the rules, but I don't think that it is the right way to officiate the game.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Fun discussion on highlight reel goals among my friends (from seeing the Freytag goal on Friday on the USCHO plays of the week video.

What’s on a Top 10 for Badger Hockey?

I figure the Barnes and Hughes between the legs goals are in:
https://youtu.be/p1sfzjzH9z4
https://youtu.be/97TV1PGm-k8

The Shane Connelly spin-o-rama saves are pretty awesome as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApqgcDoAh7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rzbhFYI4pI

 

[MadCityRich]

You geniuses see the fans last night? Like I've been freaking saying it's only a matter of time and winning before **** gets real at the kohl. We dont need some special $2 upper section special. Badger hockey is the ****

You're talking about the last 2 home games of the year and senior night. It doesn't turn around in one weekend, "genius". However next year SHOULD be different.

 

[sunprairie]

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Can we all just offer a big applause to our favorite "Big Ten" Network for fulfilling their promise of the "best college hockey coverage" this upcoming first round tournament weekend? (SARCASM)

Seriously, how in the **** can BTN not be broadcasting ANY of the first round tournament games??? The folks in Minnesota get to see theirs on Fox Sports North, well, because Minnesota, but UW-PSU and ND-MSU are both simple arena feeds on the pay-extra "plus" tier. What a cluster. They have half a dozen alternate BTN channels they turn on for football, but they can't even muster ANY broadcast coverage of their conference's own tournament? I know Barry knows we have a hockey team - I saw him at the Kohl Center on Mark Johnson night with my own eyes. How he can't be on the phone right now raising hell about this is disappointing. The coaches from any of these teams can't be happy that the post season, when the best - and most exciting - hockey is supposed to be played, can't be seen by fans or potential recruits.

Seriously, here in Wisconsin we roll off of the biggest, most exciting and most hope-offering weekend in recent history, and any fans who got re-jazzed up by the excitement and are looking forward to the playoffs will get a big face full of how little the "conference" and its "network" care about this sport.

https://btn.com/2019/03/04/2019-big-ten-mens-ice-hockey-tournament-coverage-on-btn/

 

[solovsfett]

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I checked the Journal for coverage of the weekends games. Surprise, they had two sentences on the women both days. 0, zip, nada on the men’s Games.

Unreal.
Edit: i’m Talking about the physical paper.

 

[MadCityRich]

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I checked the Journal for coverage of the weekends games. Surprise, they had two sentences on the women both days. 0, zip, nada on the men’s Games.

Unreal.
Edit: i’m Talking about the physical paper.

Last weekend (can't remember which day) any mention of the men's game was on page 6. Milewski does a great job, but I'm sure his hands are tied when it comes to hard copy.


I see Delaney is stepping down in 2020. Don't let the door hit you in the ***; Can we make it immediate? The only person worse than him for the game of hockey (if that is possible) would be Alvarez as commish.

 

[KaMiGo]

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I checked the Journal for coverage of the weekends games. Surprise, they had two sentences on the women both days. 0, zip, nada on the men’s Games.

Unreal.
Edit: i’m Talking about the physical paper.

Well, I'm pretty sure that they blew past the deadline of getting the Friday game into the Saturday paper when they went into overtime.

I would suspect similar issues with the Saturday game.

Starting at 8pm and going to overtime is a bad formula for getting articles in the print version.

 

[solovsfett]

Last weekend (can't remember which day) any mention of the men's game was on page 6. Milewski does a great job, but I'm sure his hands are tied when it comes to hard copy.


I see Delaney is stepping down in 2020. Don't let the door hit you in the ***; Can we make it immediate? The only person worse than him for the game of hockey (if that is possible) would be Alvarez as commish.

Oh sorry, I mean Milwaukee journal. I imagine the state journal had the write ups.

 

[Timothy A]

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Can we all just offer a big applause to our favorite "Big Ten" Network for fulfilling their promise of the "best college hockey coverage" this upcoming first round tournament weekend? (SARCASM)

Seriously, how in the **** can BTN not be broadcasting ANY of the first round tournament games??? The folks in Minnesota get to see theirs on Fox Sports North, well, because Minnesota, but UW-PSU and ND-MSU are both simple arena feeds on the pay-extra "plus" tier. What a cluster. They have half a dozen alternate BTN channels they turn on for football, but they can't even muster ANY broadcast coverage of their conference's own tournament? [/URL]

No Schiitt, what is this 1978? Fing joke.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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I see women's Bouncy Ball is on BTN this Friday and I wondered if B1G WBB really out draws B1G Hockey? And then I thought, while attendance is probably pretty close, I imagine the overriding factor is that there are 14 B1G WBB progams and only 6 B1G Hockey programs. I wonder how much B1G Hockey gets drowned out at the B1G table for having a minority of member schools? I mean Indiana and Purdue, etc. certainly don't give a **** about B1G Hockey. We really, really, need to get two more B1G members to start Hockey.

I wonder if K'Andre and Dominic will be able to go this weekend? Mersch seems to be still hurting from a hip check he threw two weeks ago at PSU (which took him out of the game) despite trying to go last weekend. I wonder if they hold K'Andre out Friday and wait to play him if they lose a game.

I have to say I have a tremendous amount of respect for the way Jake Bunz stepped into the lineup and sucked up some minutes the last few games. I can't imagine how tough mentally it is to not play for so long, then suddenly get called up to go out of the blue. And then to have the maturity to take it in stride and play well. I thought he was very good considering the situation. Kept his play smart and simple, yet wasn't afraid to jump up in the play and contribute a couple big assists. I know they shortened the bench and he didn't see much action late in games, but I thought he really handled himself extremely well.

 

[WiscTJK]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2018-2019 Part 2: Still not time for the witty thread title.

I see women's Bouncy Ball is on BTN this Friday and I wondered if B1G WBB really out draws B1G Hockey? And then I thought, while attendance is probably pretty close, I imagine the overriding factor is that there are 14 B1G WBB progams and only 6 B1G Hockey programs. I wonder how much B1G Hockey gets drowned out at the B1G table for having a minority of member schools? I mean Indiana and Purdue, etc. certainly don't give a **** about B1G Hockey. We really, really, need to get two more B1G members to start Hockey.

No, that's crap. That is not what we were told when they started this conference. More lies from the Big7... I am just shocked....

And the worst part is I pay these jack wagons so I can watch the hockey team....

 

[UCBadger]

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Anyone think the choice to not broadcast the first round games might have been done to encourage more subscriptions to the BTNplus service?

 

[WiscTJK]

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Anyone think the choice to not broadcast the first round games might have been done to encourage more subscriptions to the BTNplus service?

Sure. They will do anything for the almighty dollar.

 

[sunprairie]

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Anyone think the choice to not broadcast the first round games might have been done to encourage more subscriptions to the BTNplus service?

If it was an organization that did anything with any actual thought, sure. But that would require a brain. Having watched how they have botched Big "10" Hockey coverage from the get go, it is pretty clear they have none.

 

[MadCityRich]

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I see women's Bouncy Ball is on BTN this Friday and I wondered if B1G WBB really out draws B1G Hockey? And then I thought, while attendance is probably pretty close, I imagine the overriding factor is that there are 14 B1G WBB progams and only 6 B1G Hockey programs. I wonder how much B1G Hockey gets drowned out at the B1G table for having a minority of member schools? I mean Indiana and Purdue, etc. certainly don't give a **** about B1G Hockey. We really, really, need to get two more B1G members to start Hockey.

I wonder if K'Andre and Dominic will be able to go this weekend? Mersch seems to be still hurting from a hip check he threw two weeks ago at PSU (which took him out of the game) despite trying to go last weekend. I wonder if they hold K'Andre out Friday and wait to play him if they lose a game.

I have to say I have a tremendous amount of respect for the way Jake Bunz stepped into the lineup and sucked up some minutes the last few games. I can't imagine how tough mentally it is to not play for so long, then suddenly get called up to go out of the blue. And then to have the maturity to take it in stride and play well. I thought he was very good considering the situation. Kept his play smart and simple, yet wasn't afraid to jump up in the play and contribute a couple big assists. I know they shortened the bench and he didn't see much action late in games, but I thought he really handled himself extremely well.

That's not it; they just don't like hockey. Doing some quick math comparing women's basketball against men's hockey (WI, MN, OSU, MI, MSU, PSU, ND, only) average women's BB attendance last year was 4400 and that includes over an 8000 average at N.Dame (must have a good program). Men's hockey was 6500 with a low of 4600 at N.Dame. Those were actual tix sold...women's BB has a substantial higher number of no-shows.

 

[MadCityRich]

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Anyone think the choice to not broadcast the first round games might have been done to encourage more subscriptions to the BTNplus service?

Not me, and I've made my opinion on this known a few times. I chose to pay extra for a higher tier on DirecTV to get BTN, etc. They (BTN) aren't getting another penny from me.

Brian Posick and Ian Perrin (for home games) are great on the radio; although Paul Capobianco (road games) is a little boring, he knows what he's talking about.

"Radio is the theatre of the mind."

 

[sunprairie]

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Not me, and I've made my opinion on this known a few times. I chose to pay extra for a higher tier on DirecTV to get BTN, etc. They (BTN) aren't getting another penny from me.

Especially when they make it clear every football Saturday that they have the technical capacity to provide multiple feeds as needed on the regular BTN feed (that we all already pay to receive.) I understand not doing that for every sport's games, but the playoffs seem like the place for BTN to use that capacity to provide the best coverage of all of their own conference's tournament games - especially if there is NO coverage on any other outlets.

This weekend is just a really shameful example of how poorly Big 10 Hockey is treated by their own conference's network. They'd likely say "There's no audience for it." The hockey programs should be arguing that you can't build an audience if there's no chance for the audience to watch. What a stupid mess.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2018-2019 Part 2: Still not time for the witty thread title.

That's not it; they just don't like hockey. Doing some quick math comparing women's basketball against men's hockey (WI, MN, OSU, MI, MSU, PSU, ND, only) average women's BB attendance last year was 4400 and that includes over an 8000 average at N.Dame (must have a good program). Men's hockey was 6500 with a low of 4600 at N.Dame. Those were actual tix sold...women's BB has a substantial higher number of no-shows.

I haven't looked it up but there are 14 WBB progams x 4400 = 61,600 / home game vs 7 MH programs (counting ND who isn't really in the B1G ) x 6500 = 45,500/ home game. So in total I guess WBB probably draws more when it's all said and done, but neither is drawing anything like MBB of FB.

But my point about getting 2 more B1G Hockey programs is just what you said, "they don't like hockey." And when there are B1G conference meetings, and votes and stuff that comes up, 8 members don't like hockey right now, and only 6 do. It just occurs to me that it would be very helpful at various times in the future to change that to a majority of 8 who do like hockey and have a serious investment in it's future success.

 

[Rodhotter]

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"I have to say I have a tremendous amount of respect for the way Jake Bunz stepped into the lineup and sucked up some minutes the last few games. I can't imagine how tough mentally it is to not play for so long, then suddenly get called up to go out of the blue. And then to have the maturity to take it in stride and play well. I thought he was very good considering the situation. Kept his play smart and simple, yet wasn't afraid to jump up in the play and contribute a couple big assists. I know they shortened the bench and he didn't see much action late in games, but I thought he really handled himself extremely well." I agree 100% Jake was solid.