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Wisconsin Hockey 20-21 Give Us A Reason To Believe

As good as he was during his hot streak, he was not so good in crunch time down the stretch. I assume he played with the same guys in both stretches. I think his play noticeably declined in the last month.
 
srkbadger said:
As good as he was during his hot streak, he was not so good in crunch time down the stretch. I assume he played with the same guys in both stretches. I think his play noticeably declined in the last month.
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Playing with BC and Achan did not do him many favors at all. I was advocating getting him some help.
 
Over the same stretch of games, Achan had 2 goals and 2 assists, and Brock had 3 assists. I'm done bagging on #4. I just can't excuse the play I saw (more importantly didn't see) down the stretch. I'd love to have him back, but that's not gonna happen.
 
I agree with you. #4 disappeared in the big games toward the end.


also...what is the worst loss after a promising season?

leaving out the 92 title game of course...

BU 4 UW 1 in 1994 team was loaded with talent: Schier, Zent, Moore, Rafalski, Plante, Spencer, et al

BC 4 UW 1 2000 team had Heatley, Reinprecht, Hukalo, Kuk, Granato, Siren et al

Nodak smoking the 2014 in 1st round 5-2.

Bemidji trappers crushing UW 6-3 today.
 
I wonder if Alvarez will now give Granato a 5 year extension because he made the playoffs in year 5 and the team is now finally turning the corner.
 
Doogity said:
Teams built like the Badgers are always going to struggle in the tourny. While there was a lot of talented players on the ice, they always struggle against teams willing to work and grind things out along the boards. They hate getting punched in the mouth and tend to back down to teams willing to do it. They need some grit and some grinder on this team, some players who the opponent hate to be on the ice against.
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As a native Sioux-Hawks fan who is also a long-time WI resident and therefore an adopted Badger fan, one if the things I miss with the program is the combination of hard working toughness and high-end skill the Badgers usually have. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It's who you recruit, sure, but also what you require of them once they get here, IMO.

Also, Bemidji is not a soft spot on anyone's schedule. UND fans know that team pretty well, and a lot of them were grateful UND wasn't placed in their region, especially if it was going to be in a rink with lower quality ice, as is too often the case with these tournament venues.
 
solovsfett said:
I agree with you. #4 disappeared in the big games toward the end.

also...what is the worst loss after a promising season?

leaving out the 92 title game of course...

BU 4 UW 1 in 1994 team was loaded with talent: Schier, Zent, Moore, Rafalski, Plante, Spencer, et al

BC 4 UW 1 2000 team had Heatley, Reinprecht, Hukalo, Kuk, Granato, Siren et al

Nodak smoking the 2014 in 1st round 5-2.

Bemidji trappers crushing UW 6-3 today.
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Gooollee Guber just rub that old salt in the old wounds, but I'll play. Title games loses are are worst because you are RIGHT THERE! I'd say 1992 is #1 and the 2010 loss to BC in the title game is #2. I'll never comprehend how they lost that game with that roster.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
So, with the Gophers the only Big Ten team left in the Tournament anyone here going to support them or would you rather dissect your own intestines?
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I have zero loyalty on the men's side. UW or bust. The rest of the B16 hockey teams can go to..........

On the women's side the eastern bias is SO out of control that I have grudgingly rooted for other wwcha teams against eastern teams. Other than Clarkson's run, they are SO o--ver--ra---ted. I will be shocked if Watts beats out all world but lost in the title game to Watts Frankel.
 
solovsfett said:
I agree with you. #4 disappeared in the big games toward the end.


also...what is the worst loss after a promising season?

leaving out the 92 title game of course...

BU 4 UW 1 in 1994 team was loaded with talent: Schier, Zent, Moore, Rafalski, Plante, Spencer, et al
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That team may have been loaded, but so was BU, as they played in the title game and won it all the next year with mostly the same crew. Part of BU's "7 FF's in 8 years" run.
 
That explains some of his play down the stretch. I guess he should be praised for gutting it out. I'm not sure whoever might have replaced him would have been any more productive. I knew he wasn't right, but I never doubted his heart.
 
solovsfett said:
I agree with you. #4 disappeared in the big games toward the end.


also...what is the worst loss after a promising season?

leaving out the 92 title game of course...

BU 4 UW 1 in 1994 team was loaded with talent: Schier, Zent, Moore, Rafalski, Plante, Spencer, et al

BC 4 UW 1 2000 team had Heatley, Reinprecht, Hukalo, Kuk, Granato, Siren et al

Nodak smoking the 2014 in 1st round 5-2.

Bemidji trappers crushing UW 6-3 today.
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I'd vote the 2000 team. Many said it was a BS draw at the time/we shouldn't have been matched up with BC. I really loved that team, and that was the first of many trips taken to the WCHA final 5 for me.
'92 obviously was maddening; but the '90 championship & all success around that time took a lot of sting out of the '94 loss (we were probably due for an early round loss). The 2010 championship loss was more disappointing to me than the 2014 first round loss.
 
In the past several years people have talked about “hey, this isn’t the olden days, there are no dynasties etc in NCAA hockey”. There will never be another Bob Johnson or Herb Brooks.

bullshit.

i urge those people now to look up 2 names: Jerry York and Scott Sandelin.

while Wisconsin has largely slept or wallowed in ineptitude with 1 title in the last 30 years how many does BC and Duluth have in that timeframe? Eh? Or BU and Nodak for that matter?
 
The 99/00 team is probanly the most hurtful loss. That team was lights out and even now the players talk about how much that one stung.

In 2010, they got their doors blown off in the final. BC was a ton more skilled in the O zone and it showed, I dont hace any qualms there. WI was a D teamand they relied on it too much.

92 they got hosed and everyone knows they were hosed. 29 penalties in a game?! Im surprised the refs arent in prison still for being on the take.

Holloway def did not have a good end to the yr. TPB also disappeared. Their D also became suspect and lacked fundamentals. Tending also was suspect, it really was, from both. In that game against Bemidji, at least two goals shouldnt have even been on the board. The goal to make it 2-0 was a clear line of sight for Beydoun. No excuses. And then he got super cute instead of just making the easy play to give up the wraparound. With the empty netter thats 3 goals. Totally difft game even with crappy defense.

And the idea that we cant win with 4yr guys is silly. The top teams do it all the time with 2 and 3 yr guys, sometimes even 1yr guys; theyre in the tourney and hitting FFs consistently. The Cs and As need to be program guys and set the tone for 4yrs. If all you want is 4yr guys, no high end talent will want to go to your prgm. Its a conundrum in College hockey.

One thing Ive noticed is that WI has consistently been young, and small...every year under TG. He recruits high skill guys. Which is fine, but as stated, that doesnt play well against grinding physical teams. Just an observation.

Also the NCAA HAS to do something about these venues. They suck. Put them in places where people care about college hockey, or at least can produce a decent sheet of ice. Bejesus.
 
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