WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

[uwbadgers14]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Features/0910/preaa_0801.htm

I guess we just don't have any talent on our team this year what so ever. Yeah i guess our Blueline is kinda garbage. McDonagh, Goloubef, Gardner... Nothing that great....Geoffrion, Mitchell and Street upfront are pretty average players as well... WOW ***?? explain this to me, someone?? not even a 3rd teamer with all the flight risk's we had that all came back... Somebody make me understand...

And personally I don't think Jordan Schroeder is any better of a player then Derek Stepan... they got drafted pretty close together, its not like either was a Top NHL pick, there has to be a reason he slipped down to where he did... Jordan Schroeder will not finish the season 1st team All American...

 

[SCSU Euro]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

And personally I don't think Jordan Schroeder is any better of a player then Derek Stepan... they got drafted pretty close together, its not like either was a Top NHL pick, there has to be a reason he slipped down to where he did... Jordan Schroeder will not finish the season 1st team All American...

THAT I can't agree with. Don't get me wrong, Stepan is a great talent, but I think Schroeder is poised for a monster season, and if the Gophers get to Detroit, I think Schroeder will be a Hobey candidate. As much as it pains me to say about a Gopher, we could be talking to our kids one day about seeing him live before tne NHL knew who he was.

 

[uwbadgers14]

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THAT I can't agree with. Don't get me wrong, Stepan is a great talent, but I think Schroeder is poised for a monster season, and if the Gophers get to Detroit, I think Schroeder will be a Hobey candidate. As much as it pains me to say about a Gopher, we could be talking to our kids one day about seeing him live before tne NHL knew who he was.

Beware, thats what we thought about Kyle Turris in Madison, thats working out well???... I just don't get big up on undersized forwards that have trouble putting on bulk. Pavelski wasn't a big player in college however he played big and was 195 or so when he left, Turris, Schroeder, Stepan will be pavelski type players in the NHL, probably not much more, although pavelski is not done with him game yet either. I just can't put Schroeder head and shoulders above Stepan, Turris and those type of players....

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Beware, thats what we thought about Kyle Turris in Madison, thats working out well???... I just don't get big up on undersized forwards that have trouble putting on bulk. Pavelski wasn't a big player in college however he played big and was 195 or so when he left, Turris, Schroeder, Stepan will be pavelski type players in the NHL, probably not much more, although pavelski is not done with him game yet either. I just can't put Schroeder head and shoulders above Stepan, Turris and those type of players....

What does the NHL have to do with college?

 

[uwbadgers14]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

What does the NHL have to do with college?

he mentioned how we could be talking to our kids one day about Jordan Schroeder, i'll put him with Kyle Turris, Similar numbers there 1st year in college, undersized and so forth...

 

[joeyv]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

Schroeder is going to be WCHA POY, IMO.

Stepan is a great talent, but Schroeder is a very special player. If Derek can keep improving at the rate he did last season, he's going to be a super soph sensation and make the first team all WCHA.

I think you'll see a UW D on the first team as well. My guess...Gardiner.

Lee's situation is going to be just fine. It will work out. No worries.

I think UW's a 3rd place club, but I think if they get some balanced goalscoring, they are going to be very tough to deal with and could challenge for the McNaughton. This is a big year for Eaves IMO. I'm tired of .500 hockey, and I want to see this program back in the running for a NC. The blue line talent is undeniable, and if goalkeeping and scoring is anywhere near where it was last season, I think UW's going to be a contender.

How many days until opening night?

Wisconsin Hockey: Less Talky, More Hockey Please.

 

[Timothy A]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

Haha, I got called out on the MN thread for calling UW's blueline this year "One for the Ages" and apparently its being called out for one of the most preposterous statements in USCHO history.

I love you man.

In the limited time I saw Schroeder play last year I think he looked scarier than Turris ever did. Not that he has more talent than Turrus, but in the rodent's system generally favors a more free-wheeling offensive attack. He also had more more talent around him than Turris did. Put Turris on this UW team with these D and F and the lesss clutch and grab play and you've got the Hobey all sewed up.

I'm not overly concerned about Lee, but when I read about this last week, I thought it would be cleared up in a week easy. Now he's missing practice, missing system time, and Eaves' won't play him until he proves he's bought into the system in practice. My biggest fear is somehow Lee gets stuck at the bottom of the barrell ala Goro. I don't think that will happen, but you never know with Mr. Eaves.

If UW gets stuck around .500 with this roster, I say ditch Eaves and go after Rico @ Miami. If he can win there, imagine what he could do at a real school. I know I'm stating worst case, but as a 20 yr UW hockey veteran fan, we need results. NOW.

Let's go RED!

 

[solovsfett]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/7Archives/Features/0910/preaa_0801.htm

I guess we just don't have any talent on our team this year what so ever. Yeah i guess our Blueline is kinda garbage. McDonagh, Goloubef, Gardner... Nothing that great....Geoffrion, Mitchell and Street upfront are pretty average players as well... WOW ***?? explain this to me, someone?? not even a 3rd teamer with all the flight risk's we had that all came back... Somebody make me understand...

that list is completely ridiculous. Not ONE Badger on those All America teams?

Ah, hey INCH, the first 5, YES 5, UW d-men could be an entire NHL team's defensive core. Yeah, I said it.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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It's INCH. I wouldn't worry about it.

Poles don't matter, folks. (Except for Joe Pavs) Just remember that.

 

[First Time Long Time]

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If UW gets stuck around .500 with this roster, I say ditch Eaves and go after Rico @ Miami. If he can win there, imagine what he could do at a real school. I know I'm stating worst case, but as a 20 yr UW hockey veteran fan, we need results. NOW.

Let's go RED!

I don't see Rico leaving his alma mater.
Especially not now since he knows he can win there.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Haha, I got called out on the MN thread for calling UW's blueline this year "One for the Ages" and apparently its being called out for one of the most preposterous statements in USCHO history.

I don't think anyone would accuse Gopher fans of being the most objective of people. State of hockey and all...

 

[MadCityRich]

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I don't see Rico leaving his alma mater.
Especially not now since he knows he can win there.

WHOA! Respectfully, are you kidding?

Let's weigh the options:
Madison, WI vs Oxford OH.

6 National ChampionChips vs Zero point Zero.

University of Wisconsin vs Miami of Ohio.

WCHA vs CCHA .

Kohl Center 15,500 for hockey vs Goggin 3200 for hockey.

SCOREBOARD!!!! -- INGLORIOUS BADGERS

 

[joeyv]

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Blasi would take the UW job. It might take some "extra" negotiation, but Blasi knows that UW is a big time job and one of the top jobs in all of college hockey. While Oxford, OH is a great town, great college atmosphere, and is on a nice run, I think he'd opt out.

Turris and Schroeder are comparable talents. However, I think Schroeder used his noodle and stayed in school to not only improve his skills, but to give himself an extra year of physical development as well. I give him a lot of credit for not being swayed by the money. The second year was very beneficial for Dany Heatley, and Heatley was physically ready to handle NHL rigors after his frosh season.

Turris, with some scoring ability around him, has monster years at UW. Water under the bridge...

Lee is going to play. Once he settles in, I think he'll play. It looks like Craig Smith is going to get a lot of ice time, based on current play. We'll see how this shakes out.

I think I'd like to see Ramage redshirt with Gardiner, Smith, Golobeuf, McDonagh, Schultz, Johnson, Springer, and Little in the mix.

Wisconsin Hockey: Alma Mater So What?

 

[Gandalf the Red]

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Blasi would take the UW job. It might take some "extra" negotiation, but Blasi knows that UW is a big time job and one of the top jobs in all of college hockey. While Oxford, OH is a great town, great college atmosphere, and is on a nice run, I think he'd opt out.

Turris and Schroeder are comparable talents. However, I think Schroeder used his noodle and stayed in school to not only improve his skills, but to give himself an extra year of physical development as well. I give him a lot of credit for not being swayed by the money. The second year was very beneficial for Dany Heatley, and Heatley was physically ready to handle NHL rigors after his frosh season.

Turris, with some scoring ability around him, has monster years at UW. Water under the bridge...

Lee is going to play. Once he settles in, I think he'll play. It looks like Craig Smith is going to get a lot of ice time, based on current play. We'll see how this shakes out.

I think I'd like to see Ramage redshirt with Gardiner, Smith, Golobeuf, McDonagh, Schultz, Johnson, Springer, and Little in the mix.

Wisconsin Hockey: Alma Mater So What?

Eaves' plan is to redshirt Mitch Thompson, which I think is stupid. Ramage would be a better choice, or even Keegan Meuer, someone who can contribute later w/ the extra year.

Glad Mitch is on the team, but I when the dust settles, I don't see him as anything more than a 3rd string goalie. That is one area of concern in recruiting, w/ no goalie in the pipeline.

 

[MadCityRich]

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Glad Mitch is on the team, but I when the dust settles, I don't see him as anything more than a 3rd string goalie. That is one area of concern in recruiting, w/ no goalie in the pipeline.

I am concerned about goal tending in the future as well. From what I'm hearing, we're good to go for 2 years.

I haven't noticed anything on the recruiting thread and my goalie pipeline is dry. I see other schools getting quality 'tenders; I hope our days of "Goaltender University" didn't go by the wayside when Howie left.

 

[sweatpants]

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Eaves' plan is to redshirt Mitch Thompson, which I think is stupid. Ramage would be a better choice, or even Keegan Meuer, someone who can contribute later w/ the extra year.

Glad Mitch is on the team, but I when the dust settles, I don't see him as anything more than a 3rd string goalie. That is one area of concern in recruiting, w/ no goalie in the pipeline.

I was actually going to suggest they redshirt Little or Springer. Both have a very similiar skill-set, neither is a offensive minded or defensive minded d-man, more of a balanced type. One of them is going to be the 9th man in the rotation. So why not? Ramage is a defensive minded guy which is sorely needed with this group so I don't see him sitting this season. Mauer definitely needs to redshirt IMO.

Gandalf, I respect you're opinion, but I don't know why you consider redshirting Thompson stupid. He's not going to play this season so what's the harm. He's a walk-on so it's not like he's jamming up the scholarship situation down the road. If anyone remembers awhile ago redshirt walk-on senior Jake Soper had to play significant minutes when Melanson got hurt and Valley went pro and did quite well. Pretty sure he won both games he started.

Regarding Blasi. I think it all depends on what Blasi wants. Does he want a big payday or job security? Right now he's a king at Miami, he turned the program around and was seconds away from their first NCAA championship. He could probably go .500 for ten years and he would still have a job there. Whereas he could go to UW get 3x more pay, but eventually could get booted after 3 years if he doesn't preform. It's very similiar to Barry turning down the Notre Dame, Nebraska, and Miami-U job offers. He took job complacency over money. I'd rather have a bigger fish than a coach that is just "hot" right now. I believe Jeff Jackson can be had for the right price. Would love to have Don Granato as well.

 

[Gandalf the Red]

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I was actually going to suggest they redshirt Little or Springer. Both have a very similiar skill-set, neither is a offensive minded or defensive minded d-man, more of a balanced type. One of them is going to be the 9th man in the rotation. So why not? Ramage is a defensive minded guy which is sorely needed with this group so I don't see him sitting this season. Mauer definitely needs to redshirt IMO.

Gandalph, I respect you're opinion, but I don't know why you consider redshirting Thompson stupid. He's not going to play this season so what's the harm. He's a walk-on so it's not like he's jamming up the scholarship situation down the road. If anyone remembers awhile ago redshirt walk-on senior Jake Soper had to play significant minutes when Melanson got hurt and Valley went pro and did quite well. Pretty sure he won both games he started.

Regarding Blasi. I think it all depends on what Blasi wants. Does he want a big payday or job security? Right now he's a king at Miami, he turned the program around and was seconds away from their first NCAA championship. He could probably go .500 for ten years and he would still have a job there. Whereas he could go to UW get 3x more pay, but eventually could get booted after 3 years if he doesn't preform. It's very similiar to Barry turning down the Notre Dame, Nebraska, and Miami-U job offers. He took job complacency over money. I'd rather have a bigger fish than a coach that is just "hot" right now. I believe Jeff Jackson can be had for the right price. Would love to have Don Granato as well.

The reason I think it's stupid is that I'm pretty sure the team only gets ONE redshirt. So, if you have only one redshirt why spend it on a guy who will likely never be much more than a 3rd string goalie.

Now if you (assuming you are Eaves) have one redshirt, and your options are Meuer, Ramage or Thompson (or someone else) who would you use it on? If the Badgers could redshirt multiple players, than I'd agree w/ you.

 

[Timothy A]

Re: WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

UW has a goalie coach now, and a good one....Jeff Sanger. Now I can sleep at night.

Anyone else think Gary Shuchuck would have been a strange choice?

 

[First Time Long Time]

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WHOA! Respectfully, are you kidding?

Let's weigh the options:
Madison, WI vs Oxford OH.

6 National ChampionChips vs Zero point Zero.

University of Wisconsin vs Miami of Ohio.

WCHA vs CCHA .

Kohl Center 15,500 for hockey vs Goggin 3200 for hockey.

SCOREBOARD!!!! -- INGLORIOUS BADGERS

Alma mater vs not
Great job security already vs not so much.

All depends on what the guy wants I suppose.

 

[sweatpants]

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The reason I think it's stupid is that I'm pretty sure the team only gets ONE redshirt. So, if you have only one redshirt why spend it on a guy who will likely never be much more than a 3rd string goalie.
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Not sure where you heard that, but that can't be correct. Pretty sure you could basically redshirt as many players as you want just as long you could field a team.