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Wisconsin Badgers 2020-2021

Good points, yet football in more than half the country is poised to play. Arizona seems to be doing great things in the dorms testing sewage believe it or not.
 
U of Wisconsin-Madison has started posting the results of their on-campus saliva based COVID testing.

This week was 'move in' week for the dorms, with classes starting this coming Tuesday (I think). So far during move-in week, positive tests have been running about 1.5% (quite similar to Dane County as a whole lately). About as good as one could expect. We'll have to see how that goes once classes get going and people have been together in the dorms, etc., for a while.

https://smartrestart.wisc.edu/dashboard/
 
robertearle said:
U of Wisconsin-Madison has started posting the results of their on-campus saliva based COVID testing.

This week was 'move in' week for the dorms, with classes starting this coming Tuesday (I think). So far during move-in week, positive tests have been running about 1.5% (quite similar to Dane County as a whole lately). About as good as one could expect. We'll have to see how that goes once classes get going and people have been together in the dorms, etc., for a while.

https://smartrestart.wisc.edu/dashboard/
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Colgate posts all their results. Tested all students when they arrived last week and had a .8% positive rate. They are testing wastewater in all school owned dorms, apartments and fraternities. Also quarantining the entire school for 14 days upon arrival. Testing all students again this week. Lower rate than the rate for the rest of the state so it seems to be working. Small school and pretty isolated so its certainly easier to control the student population.
 
robertearle said:
After three days of classes, this https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/...cle_05ed3b59-2c60-5419-a569-d13559abea49.html Certainly does not bode well for hockey, or much anything else.
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This should have been the policy from move in day forward. Anyone who thought that they could bring in 43000 plus people from all over the world to the campus and nothing bad would happen is totally not in reality. And to think the folks running UW are essentially more on the liberal political spectrum which makes them covid 19 conservative. I just don't get it. They need to shut the whole thing down for 2 weeks. 100% total quarantine. They also should not allow any students to leave the campus until the end of the semester unless for sporting events, and those travelers should be strictly controlled when off campus.
 
The videos on Instagram of huge crowded dorm parties over the weekend were disappointing. Same thing happening on Langdon st. The administration can plan all they want but if the students ignore the rules & warnings no plan will work. Yes, I know it’s a lot to ask students to lock themselves down. Just not going to happen. Vaccine is the only hope.
 
Sieve1 said:
The videos on Instagram of huge crowded dorm parties over the weekend were disappointing. Same thing happening on Langdon st. The administration can plan all they want but if the students ignore the rules & warnings no plan will work. Yes, I know it’s a lot to ask students to lock themselves down. Just not going to happen. Vaccine is the only hope.
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The UW can say this: if you get busted at an unauthorized event or gathering, they will not allow you to graduate from UW. Ever. You might as well just withdraw immediately and enroll somewhere else for 2nd semester. Too many people in this country are not respectful of each other nor the governing bodies.
 
Timothy A said:
The UW can say this: if you get busted at an unauthorized event or gathering, they will not allow you to graduate from UW. Ever. You might as well just withdraw immediately and enroll somewhere else for 2nd semester. Too many people in this country are not respectful of each other nor the governing bodies.
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I don't think this is the answer. Sure, these kids make stupid decisions; they are college students. I am not in any way condoning the parties that are causing these outbreaks, but playing hardball, as you suggest, will 1) not work (remember, they're college kids! They are stupid! They would show up for parties at the Grim Reaper's apartment, if beer was available.); and 2) will leave more destruction in its wake, in the form of 21-year-old kids with no degree and thousands of dollars of student debt.

Is there a better solution? No. If there was a solution, somebody would have proposed it by now. We can only hope to survive this until the hoped-for vaccine shows up. Nothing I have seen recently suggests to me that my opinion, that all college sports need to be cancelled this year, is wrong. The first death of a college football player was just announced today.
 
Leather helmet said:
I don't think this is the answer. Sure, these kids make stupid decisions; they are college students. I am not in any way condoning the parties that are causing these outbreaks, but playing hardball, as you suggest, will 1) not work (remember, they're college kids! They are stupid! They would show up for parties at the Grim Reaper's apartment, if beer was available.); and 2) will leave more destruction in its wake, in the form of 21-year-old kids with no degree and thousands of dollars of student debt.

Is there a better solution? No. If there was a solution, somebody would have proposed it by now. We can only hope to survive this until the hoped-for vaccine shows up. Nothing I have seen recently suggests to me that my opinion, that all college sports need to be cancelled this year, is wrong. The first death of a college football player was just announced today.
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We will agree to disagree. All because one is a college kid it doesn't mean you don't understand ramifications of one's actions. They aren't all out robbing banks or breaking into people's homes to steal beer. They understand the ramifications of these, therefore they can understand about covid consequences. We are talking about killing people here and public safety, not trying to avoid getting a venereal disease or getting busted for under-aged drinking.
 
Are college students being irresponsible by attending huge parties and failing to social distance? They are; no doubt about it. It would be nice if they were more committed to taking precautions that would protect people of my age and older.

However, it would also be nice if myself and other adults were more committed to preparing a country for them that wasn't as deeply in debt as ours is. I couldn't fault college students if they think that until Congress and POTUS (we're talking about a lot of seniors here) get their act together and balance the budget, there shouldn't be any Social Security or Medicare for those of us who benefit from it now or in the near future.

Also, we should try to treat our planet like a burrowed vacation home, and leave it in as good shape as we found it for those who come after us. Instead, we create environmental messes that today's youth will have to figure out how to overcome.

I agree that it is sad that some young people haven't done better about altering behaviors. If they said that they learned their disregard of the rules from us, I couldn't prove them wrong.
 
ARM said:
I couldn't fault college students if they think that until Congress and POTUS (we're talking about a lot of seniors here) get their act together and balance the budget, there shouldn't be any Social Security or Medicare for those of us who benefit from it now or in the near future.
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And I'd support them just as soon as they figure out how to refund every penny I've paid into it for the past 40 years.
 
ARM said:
I agree that it is sad that some young people haven't done better about altering behaviors. If they said that they learned their disregard of the rules from us, I couldn't prove them wrong.
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That's quite the wide net that is being cast. I think in both instances a stupid almost super minority is screwing it up for the rest of us. There's 43000 students @ UW, how many were behaving badly? Less than 5%? Hit em hard and they will learn from it.
 
Timothy A said:
There's 43000 students @ UW, how many were behaving badly? Less than 5%? Hit em hard and they will learn from it.
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At this point, aren't most of the mask mandates voluntary, especially when it comes to private property? It's true that they are likely also violating regulations about the size of gatherings allowed, but how do you enforce that fairly? Do just the owners lose rights to a degree, or does that apply to all who attend? I'm for erring on the side of safety, but it seems harsh to crack down mightily on these college kids when people in power have ignored these guidelines for months.

As for social security, I get that it is separately funded, but my point is that as a nation, we've been spending money that we didn't have. Eventually, those funds have to come from somewhere. My generation seems to want to push that burden onto the young. I'm not saying it is fair to take away S.S., and I'm not proposing that as a solution, but neither is it fair for us to generate a huge bill that we're unwilling to pay. At a certain point, pay as you go is a better model, unpopular though it may be.
 
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