Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

Looks like the chart is off a year as Kaitlyn Kotlowski signed her LOI today.

 

[gwhinwi]

Looks like the chart is off a year as Kaitlyn Kotlowski signed her LOI today.

Yeah, that one caught me off guard. I will update it in the morning.

 

[Sieve1]

Early verbals.....I can only speak for UW, but the fear of verballing then getting dumped seems overblown at least from a UW perspective. There's an awesome spreadsheet for the UW women's recruits that lists all the verbals 4 years out and I don't recall any player who has verballed (therefore on the list) not ending up on the team, unless there was an occasional issue getting into school which neither side would confirm. Johnson also runs a lean roster. Next year he has 12 F and 7 D on the team, the following year 12 F and 6 D. Yes, he does have a glut of G's - 4 on the roster now, but Soup was someone they always liked and when the sue locked the doors, they brought her in. What's the harm in verballing early? I don't think many 8th graders know where they want to go to school 5 years later, but these are not typical kids, they are driven, goal orientated kids, it kinda makes sense for them to be working outside the box of a typical 8th grader.

Elite programs like UW, MN, BC, etc attract elite talent and even if they “dropped” a prospect, chances are that player would find another spot. But I personally know of a handful of girls (over the course of the last 5-6 years or so) who didn’t end up attending the school they originally committed to- either due to grades, sudden head coaching change, and, in one case, questionable behavior (social media can be a killer!) so it does happen, just not often at places like UW.

 

[Timothy A]

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Elite programs like UW, MN, BC, etc attract elite talent and even if they “dropped” a prospect, chances are that player would find another spot. But I personally know of a handful of girls (over the course of the last 5-6 years or so) who didn’t end up attending the school they originally committed to- either due to grades, sudden head coaching change, and, in one case, questionable behavior (social media can be a killer!) so it does happen, just not often at places like UW.

I can see it happening at the non elite schools. A girl as you describe does get dropped by an elite school, then where they end up probably pushes another player out the door. That being said, I still think that coaches being unloyal to players who committed to them isn't as big of an issue as people think.

Chayla Edwards is on board with the LOI, just missing Grant and Greig now at least from what I have seen on twitter. And not every player is on twitter tweeting they signed their LOI, there's no reason to doubt they are not coming next year. I guy just feels a whole lot better when they do sign on the dotted line.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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I'm not trying to be a critic and I'm certainly not implying there's anything wrong with Wisconsin recruiting but there is an overall problem with coaches going after the youngest girls and that's why the NCAA is going to try some changes. Also let's not be tunnel visioned on the hockey part of it and remember it's the education that's the true goal of going to college.
As the parent of a former collegiate athlete I can say with a high degree of certainty that a 14 year old is not firmly committed to their future path in life or decided on a career field.
There is a lot of factors that go into that part of the decision and until you know what your field of choice is you won't know if the school that offered to you even offers that degree or that their program in whatever that field is will give you a diploma that will give you a step up above the other thousands graduating across the country with degrees in that same field.
This is another reason that I personally feel that a no contact or even a verbal until the junior year of high school is a good thing as a clearer and better informed choice can be made by the young lady on her educational needs and desires than she would be capable of making several years earlier.

 

[Puckdrop14]

I'm not trying to be a critic and I'm certainly not implying there's anything wrong with Wisconsin recruiting but there is an overall problem with coaches going after the youngest girls and that's why the NCAA is going to try some changes. Also let's not be tunnel visioned on the hockey part of it and remember it's the education that's the true goal of going to college.
As the parent of a former collegiate athlete I can say with a high degree of certainty that a 14 year old is not firmly committed to their future path in life or decided on a career field.
There is a lot of factors that go into that part of the decision and until you know what your field of choice is you won't know if the school that offered to you even offers that degree or that their program in whatever that field is will give you a diploma that will give you a step up above the other thousands graduating across the country with degrees in that same field.
This is another reason that I personally feel that a no contact or even a verbal until the junior year of high school is a good thing as a clearer and better informed choice can be made by the young lady on her educational needs and desires than she would be capable of making several years earlier.

At 14, you would expect the parents to be providing the daughter with sound advice and guidance. She can always change her mind later however it is their choice. My daughter committed when she was 15 and it worked out just fine for her as it did for many of her friends and former teammates.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

At 14, you would expect the parents to be providing the daughter with sound advice and guidance. She can always change her mind later however it is their choice. My daughter committed when she was 15 and it worked out just fine for her as it did for many of her friends and former teammates.

I am glad it worked out for your daughter and her friends but there are many that the current way did not work out for.
I think the NCAA has a handle on the bigger picture and will attempt to do the right thing. Question remains what will the "RIGHT" thing be?

 

[Rightnut]

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I am glad it worked out for your daughter and her friends but there are many that the current way did not work out for.
I think the NCAA has a handle on the bigger picture and will attempt to do the right thing. Question remains what will the "RIGHT" thing be?

Having just gone through the entire process, I agree that the early verbal issue is something to be discussed. However, I think the 9/1 of Junior year is a year late as it doesn't give players much time to get to know coaches and schools, nor does it give the schools much time to know if their targets will accept and then move on to the next target if necessary. It seems unnecessarily compressed under the new rules. Additionally, in hockey, you have players coming from all over North American (and Europe) to essentially the northeast/Midwest US. Its not always easy to work in those trips during a single hockey season to check out schools. It took us a couple of years to visit schools while working trips in around tournaments etc.

 

[robertearle]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

For those who don't already know, Emily Clark played tonight.

One might argue that she looked a little rusty, etc. But she played, and I didn't notice her taking any shifts off or anything like that. Good news.

(The 4th line played a bunch, but that had to do with the score, and the quick turnaround to a 2 PM start tomorrow.)

 

[WiscDC]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

That was pretty much exactly what Wisconsin games against Bemidji State tend to look like.

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

Very happy to see UW control the games after OSU getting swept by BSU.

Awesome to see Clark is back, only had 1A on a Pankowski goal Saturday on the weekend, but she probably has to get her sea legs back and she was playing with a new wing in Cogan. Nice to see Shaver and Norby scoring, maybe adding Mauermann to that line helped.

 

[robertearle]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

Very happy to see UW control the games after OSU getting swept by BSU.

Awesome to see Clark is back, only had 1A on a Pankowski goal Saturday on the weekend, but she probably has to get her sea legs back and she was playing with a new wing in Cogan. Nice to see Shaver and Norby scoring, maybe adding Mauermann to that line helped.

Clark had a breakaway on Saturday, intercepted a pass at the UW blue line and then skated down the ice ahead of the chasing BSU skaters. The goalie beat her on the shot, but she looked just fine racing them down the ice.

(the guy doing UW women's volleyball on the radio this weekend was a fill-in for the regular play-by-play guy; he kept calling UW VB libero Tiffany Clark 'Emily Clark', to the point where he said to his woman analyst partner 'punch me on the arm when I do it again'.)

 

[TinyViking]

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Does anyone know what Roque said to the ref that got her the misconduct?

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

Does anyone know what Roque said to the ref that got her the misconduct?

I think we'd all like to know, but of course we never will.

I have to say I am very happy/shocked UW is now allowing/promoting signs to be made by fans and used during the games. Simply shocking. I'm think about this one for this weekend "should have kept Pankowski".

 

[Timothy A]

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It amazes me that coaches can tell who’s going to be good by 8th grade. Seems like a risk on both sides, but obviously it works out. Are there many kids that don’t verbally commit until 11th grade anymore?

Seems to me MJ's current So class may not be as strong scoring-wise as he projected, at least at this point in their careers. Still, solid players with bright futures.

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

I am shocked UW has no SHG this year so far. Shocking I say, SHOCKING!

 

[shelfit]

Does anyone know what Roque said to the ref that got her the misconduct?

Perhaps she politely and respectfully shared her opinion about the current political climate in our country and the ref simply didn't agree?!

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

Eeked out o win against an overmatched Hawvawd team who does have a great goalie and some snipers. UW controlled the play through the game, had some hold the zone line changes in the 1st and 3rd, love to see that. Interestingly the 2nd period seemed to be the weakest territorially, usually with the line change in their O zone they control the play more. I don't think the 4th line saw much action at all. Cogan had a really strong game, I saw some speed that I hadn't see before. SCARY moment after Clark drew that penalty she skated gingerly back to the bench and went right into the locker room. She did play in the 3rd. Whew. Awesome to see Pankowski dagger Stone, that was great. Doesn't at all make up for the snub on the Olympic team, but getting UW a W against her was great.

Crowd was flat, no jump at all. I'm glad UW responded better to the tying goal than the crowd did, there was no push back by the crowd after that goal, very disappointing. I didn't hear the usual voices your hear in the crowd, it was strange.

Yes I will take credit for the SH goal. I knew they'd get one this weekend since I pointed out they hadn't had one all year yet.

Ozman I had not seen yet, she can go back to reffing 101 class and take Hanrahann with her, inconsistently randomly awful as usual. I thought Roque might get a 10 for chirping after the call on her. They have no clue what interference is. At least in the men's games it looks like that is getting called more.

 

[TinyViking]

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Crowd was flat, no jump at all. I'm glad UW responded better to the tying goal than the crowd did, there was no push back by the crowd after that goal, very disappointing. I didn't hear the usual voices your hear in the crowd, it was strange.


Where were you sitting? I was in section 17 and the crowd was pretty dynamic. All the energy I expected and then some.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2018-2019

May not be pigskin fans here but that has to be super embarrassing to lose to the rodents of all things...The thinner will flow.