Wisconsin Badgers 2014-2015

[ne7minder]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2014-2015

Additionally, while I agree that Minny is part of what kept the Badgers to the perimeter and taking longer shots, they still aren't the ones that were making them fire wide and off-target. And the Badgers didn't have this same problem (at least not to this extent that I remember) when the two teams played in Madison in October. Were it a consistent issue when the two teams played, clearly that's the cause and effect. But I haven't seen that pattern emerge.

I thought the entire pace of the games at Ridder was different than those ar Labahn. Those games in Madison were at a higher tempo while those in Minneapolis seemed all about shutting it down. I assumed that was the Badgers trying a different approach to what lost earlier they seemed to dictate the pace. They did a fine job of it too & I thought the Gophers responded by tightening up too. They were enjoyable but not nearly as fun as the high-flying game.

 

[D2D]

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Unless the goalie gets a piece of a shot headed toward the net causing it to hit metal and stay out, and then it is officially a save, not a post.

How about these three:

1. Goalie attempts a save on a shot that clearly is going wide. It hits her glove/blocker/stick but deflects into the net. I believe this is officially a shot on net, because it went in.
2. A very long clear from within player's defensive zone that happens to trickle in on net. Goalie uses her stick to stop it from going in and pass to a teammate. I thought there was some minimum distance before the goalie was credited with a save, and therefore this shouldn't be counted as a shot on goal?
3. Goalie's teammate possesses the puck and attempts to clear it away from her net, but errantly shoots it into her own net. Shot on goal? I believe yes, because it went in.

 

[ARM]

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How about these three:

1. Goalie attempts a save on a shot that clearly is going wide. It hits her glove/blocker/stick but deflects into the net. I believe this is officially a shot on net, because it went in.
2. A very long clear from within player's defensive zone that happens to trickle in on net. Goalie uses her stick to stop it from going in and pass to a teammate. I thought there was some minimum distance before the goalie was credited with a save, and therefore this shouldn't be counted as a shot on goal?
3. Goalie's teammate possesses the puck and attempts to clear it away from her net, but errantly shoots it into her own net. Shot on goal? I believe yes, because it went in.

I think 1) and 3) are the same -- an own goal, but a goal and thus a shot all the same. I think the second one depends on who is doing the official scoring. Some people believe that if the puck would have gone in if the goalie hadn't been there, then it is a save. I've heard others say, "I'm not giving her a save for THAT!"

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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3. Goalie's teammate possesses the puck and attempts to clear it away from her net, but errantly shoots it into her own net. Shot on goal? I believe yes, because it went in.

How about this one?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAEnU/1CI_z2Zbf58/s499/OConnorOwnGoal.gif

I honestly think that's no shot on net, so you could have 1 goal allowed on 0 shots.

By the way, that goal is a BEAUTY.

 

[Eeyore]

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I think 1) and 3) are the same -- an own goal, but a goal and thus a shot all the same.

My understanding is that for someone coming from a soccer background there is a difference between 1 & 3. In soccer the latter is officially scored as an own goal and no member of the scoring team gets credit for it; in hockey, the shot and the goal are both awarded to the last member of the scoring team to play the puck, no matter how long ago it was or how irrelevant to it actually going in.

 

[Eeyore]

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How about this one?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAEnU/1CI_z2Zbf58/s499/OConnorOwnGoal.gif

I honestly think that's no shot on net, so you could have 1 goal allowed on 0 shots.

By the way, that goal is a BEAUTY.

Almost as much fun as the time I watched the BC men's team score on themselves with the goalie pulled for a delayed penalty. In both cases, it's a shot and a goal awarded to the last member of the other team to play the puck. I have no idea what the ruling would be if it happened off of a clean win of the opening face off and the other team never played the puck.

 

[ARM]

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Almost as much fun as the time I watched the BC men's team score on themselves with the goalie pulled for a delayed penalty. In both cases, it's a shot and a goal awarded to the last member of the other team to play the puck. I have no idea what the ruling would be if it happened off of a clean win of the opening face off and the other team never played the puck.

Those are usually given to the member of the scoring team closest to the play.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

I have no idea what the ruling would be if it happened off of a clean win of the opening face off and the other team never played the puck.

Oh man that is borderline existential...

 

[D2D]

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How about this one?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAEnU/1CI_z2Zbf58/s499/OConnorOwnGoal.gif

I honestly think that's no shot on net, so you could have 1 goal allowed on 0 shots.

By the way, that goal is a BEAUTY.

I've seen countless number of hockey games over the years, but I believe this is a first. Whether it's officially a shot on net, I have no idea. But one thing's for sure: lots of cheap/unfair plus/minuses awarded on that play!

 

[ne7minder]

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I've seen countless number of hockey games over the years, but I believe this is a first. Whether it's officially a shot on net, I have no idea. But one thing's for sure: lots of cheap/unfair plus/minuses awarded on that play!

Yes, thats a SOG, sadly the unassisted goal will be assigned to one of the other teams players on the ice at the time. This is a whole new level below a full Adam Hauser for giving up a goal. A "Hauser" is when the goalie comes out of the crease to feed the opposing forward, if the forward can then put the puck in the undefended net it is a full "Adam Hauser". This goal needs a name.

 

[Timothy A]

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Not the result we UW fans were hoping to see last night......Bemiji played some of the best team D I have seen all year. The middle of the ice was always heavily contested, their sticks were very active lifting sticks and being in shooting/passing lanes. Mowat was solid as a rock. Congrats on a great D game.

ARD has a forgettable game. Goal 1 the puck was behind the net and she was looking up ice like she thought UW was bringing the puck out, problem was Bemiji got the puck behind the net, and shot it in before she knew what happened. A very lazy play there. Goal 2 the puck shot across the goal mouth, she overslid to the farside, and was in no position to stop the puck when it went to the backside from across the goal mouth. There were other plays where she overmoved or reacted too slowly but the puck didn't end up being on net. That was a 1-0 waiting to be had.

Nurse's goal was a beauty, splitting 2 D just inside the blueline and going backhand glove side. Earlier she got stoned on partial break on the forehand shot going for the glove side high.

I thought Pankowski looked just lost at times in the O zone last night.

UW had some below the circle cross ice pass/shoot opportunities, but every time they did not attempt to shoot off the pass. Puzzling.

Oh yeah, Rolfes did play, so either that medical report from whoever below was BS or she's a real fast healer.

No Bucky Badger available last night?.....weak sauce UW, weak sauce.

There's a hard rock song with a male singer that gets some airtime pregame and at whistles, can anyone ID this song? I really like it.

 

[ne7minder]

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Not the result we UW fans were hoping to see last night......Bemiji played some of the best team D I have seen all year. The middle of the ice was always heavily contested, their sticks were very active lifting sticks and being in shooting/passing lanes. Mowat was solid as a rock. Congrats on a great D game.

Bemidji has never gotten as much credit as I think they deserve for the way they play. They give MN & WI fits because they play such strong D. I know exactly how that game went for you last night because I have seen BSU do that to us many times. The undefeated season was saved in OT after one of the most amazing efforts I have ever seen at stifling a team with lines of great snipers. Lots of teams try to play this way but they either don't have the guns or they have periods they try to be more offensive & falter. I wish that they could somehow make the NCAA field because I believe their efforts earned it but also because I think they would make some team's life hell for 60 minutes - I just don't want to have to play them in the tourney!

 

[ARM]

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Lots of teams try to play this way but they either don't have the guns or they have periods they try to be more offensive & falter.

Bemidji is a far better skating team than most lower-ranked teams that try to concentrate on defense first.

 

[ne7minder]

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Bemidji is a far better skating team than most lower-ranked teams that try to concentrate on defense first.

That was what I was trying to shorthand with "don't have the guns". Yeah they skate way better than the lower ranked teams and as well or better than a couple higher ranked ones. But they also stick to that big-D game plan better than any team I can remember

 

[robertearle]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2014-2015

Bemidji is a far better skating team than most lower-ranked teams that try to concentrate on defense first.

Most of their 'key' players are underclassmen; they're pretty darn good right now, but next year they could be even better.

 

[Badger Booster]

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Not the result we UW fans were hoping to see last night......Bemiji played some of the best team D I have seen all year. The middle of the ice was always heavily contested, their sticks were very active lifting sticks and being in shooting/passing lanes. Mowat was solid as a rock. Congrats on a great D game.

ARD has a forgettable game. Goal 1 the puck was behind the net and she was looking up ice like she thought UW was bringing the puck out, problem was Bemiji got the puck behind the net, and shot it in before she knew what happened. A very lazy play there. Goal 2 the puck shot across the goal mouth, she overslid to the farside, and was in no position to stop the puck when it went to the backside from across the goal mouth. There were other plays where she overmoved or reacted too slowly but the puck didn't end up being on net. That was a 1-0 waiting to be had.

Nurse's goal was a beauty, splitting 2 D just inside the blueline and going backhand glove side. Earlier she got stoned on partial break on the forehand shot going for the glove side high.

I thought Pankowski looked just lost at times in the O zone last night.

UW had some below the circle cross ice pass/shoot opportunities, but every time they did not attempt to shoot off the pass. Puzzling.

Oh yeah, Rolfes did play, so either that medical report from whoever below was BS or she's a real fast healer.

No Bucky Badger available last night?.....weak sauce UW, weak sauce.

There's a hard rock song with a male singer that gets some airtime pregame and at whistles, can anyone ID this song? I really like it.

2nd most frustrating Badger game I've been at this year just behind the OT loss to Minnesota in Madison. I agree with all others that Bemidji plays great team defense and Mowatt was solid all night. The lone goal she gave up was an incredible goal by Nurse who split the D, creating her own mini-breakaway and going top shelf. Not sure who stops that goal. Otherwise, they blocked a ton of shots (though Wisconsin did get 40 officially on net) and cleaned up all the fattest rebounds.

I realize that they are playing some of the top defensive teams out of the gate here in the New Year, but they have too much talent to be held to 1 goal of game. While they did a decent job attacking the net, there were several times that they passed themselves of a great scoring opportunity. Not to pick on Pankowski, but she did it a couple of times. I'd like to see her impose her will more out there. Not sure if she is deferring to older players, but she needs to be a force.

Rolfes was indeed out there and seemed to be moving well. I'm going with the quick healer option.

Besides Bucky not being there, the band was also MIA (haven't been to one game all year) and the concession stand ran out of brats by the 2nd intermission. UW had to know they were going to have a big turnout with it being youth hockey weekend. No Bucky is completely unacceptable unless they are all sick (which I suppose is possible). The band issue continues to puzzle/frustrate/anger me. And running out of brats at a Wisconsin sporting event is un-American.

 

[Badger Booster]

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Seeing some of this after the fact. Saw Drake playing again last night, but Rolfes was back from injury. Didn't remember ever seeing Channell playing and went back to the line charts and she wasn't listed. I'm too lazy to do the research, but it doesn't seem like they've had their top 6 D playing at the same time very often this year due to injuries and/or international play.

 

[pokechecker]

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But they also stick to that big-D game plan better than any team I can remember

when they score first, they are tough to beat
that's the key to beating them, get on the board first and don't let them tie it up

hopefully somebody hid Timothy's razor

 

[Timothy A]

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when they score first, they are tough to beat
that's the key to beating them, get on the board first and don't let them tie it up

hopefully somebody hid Timothy's razor

It was a pins and needles kind of game. I was not too worried when they scored first, though allowing that player to walk in from the boards and shoot sure p/oed me. Bemiji missed a wide open net on a Ryan gaff and ARD had an amazing backside rebound save, or it would have been 3-1 at the end of 2. I was worried the whole 3rd period somehow UW would not win the game outright and what impact that would have, but they pulled it out in OT.

Nurse had a great game and ARD was much more steady. I still don't like their pp where they go dot to dot across the slot, then back to the point. When they go dot to dot, the pass catcher needs to shoot off the pass instead of going back to the point. Even my non-hardcore hockey wife pointed that out on her own today.

Facinating match-up w/Clarkson coming up. I am looking forward to it.

 

[CrazyDave]

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I was worried the whole 3rd period somehow UW would not win the game outright and what impact that would have, but they pulled it out in OT.

Not knowing anything about how the game in Madison actually played out, the word "escaped" pops into my mind in describing the result.