Wisconsin Badgers 2013-2014 Season

[WiscDC]

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People got hurt, it was a poopshow, and that last penalty was like a slap to the face.

Barry Alvarez was there.

 

[robertearle]

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and that last penalty was like a slap to the face.

I think they called it so that if anybody looks at the box score, the refs can prove they were actually there. 'Cause otherwise....

 

[Timothy A]

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I think they called it so that if anybody looks at the box score, the refs can prove they were actually there. 'Cause otherwise....

I just can't understand how they can call lesser things the prior 2 games (though they didn't call much in those games either) and then let people get bludgeoned, speared and crosschecked and call nothing at all. Just about as poorly and officiated game as one could imagine. Langley and Worzidlo (sp) have had too many games in Madison like that. How do they even have jobs?

 

[ARM]

Langley and Worzidlo (sp) have had too many games in Madison like that. How do they even have jobs?

They are considered the top crew in the WCHA. They worked the WCHA Championship game, the only NCAA quarter hosted by a WCHA team, and the Frozen Four last year. In the past, Dan Lick and Robert Ludwig have worked such games. It may be a case of familiarity breeding contempt; if you watch any of the officials enough times you're bound to see something that you don't like.

 

[robertearle]

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They are considered the top crew in the WCHA. They worked the WCHA Championship game, the only NCAA quarter hosted by a WCHA team, and the Frozen Four last year. In the past, Dan Lick and Robert Ludwig have worked such games. It may be a case of familiarity breeding contempt; if you watch any of the officials enough times you're bound to see something that you don't like.

I'm happy when I don't see either of the Lick brothers come skating out, because once they start call penalties, they just don't stop. I'm happier still when I do see Wrazidlo and Langley come out.

But tonight was BAD bad. 'People got hurt' and they stood by and let it happen. As much as you might want to 'let them play', there were three or four today that ' you gotta call'. But they called *literally* nothing.

 

[WiscDC]

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They are considered the top crew in the WCHA. They worked the WCHA Championship game, the only NCAA quarter hosted by a WCHA team, and the Frozen Four last year. In the past, Dan Lick and Robert Ludwig have worked such games. It may be a case of familiarity breeding contempt; if you watch any of the officials enough times you're bound to see something that you don't like.

What...WHAT?!? What we saw today (and in the North Dakota at Wisconsin series) was downright dangerous and a disgusting disgrace. Even when Badgers players got away with stuff, we took note of the blatant incompetance (meeting it with a disbelieving laugh rather than loud outrage). Huge hits everywhere, several of which would have been illegal (whether because they were violent boarding offenses or interference) in men's hockey. Throw in obvious open ice trips and violent spears to the gut, and you have some idea of how this series went.

Yeah, you're bound to find something you don't like with any officials, but this was a case of them blatantly ignoring everything. "Blatantly ignoring everything" is the sugarcoated version.

You know what's weird? I remember the Bemidji State at Wisconsin series being so clean and non-controversial both ways that we talked about how good the officiating was. The referees? Glenn and...Wrazidlo. Either Wrazidlo endured some serious injuries to the eyes/brain since then or Glenn picked up the slack that weekend.

By the way, kudos to Madison Packer for her little chat with the refs after everyone else had left the ice. It was more than warranted.

 

[CrazyDave]

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I've occasionally pulled out the yell "That was a felony in (insert number here) states and the District of Columbia."

 

[Nowheresville]

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I couldn't make it to the Sunday game, but listening on the radio they certainly made plenty of comments about this or that not being a penalty. It's amazing to me that the refs could have been even worse than Saturday. I don't mind at all when refs let the little stuff go, but when you don't call anything, it start getting downright dangerous. The second period Saturday had several players limping back to the benches after non-called illegal plays, and I wasn't even confident an arm would have gone up if there would have been a check from behind into the boards. Thankfully, they finally started making some calls later into the 3rd period.

I could easily argue that was the worst officiated game I've seen all year, not because one team or the other had any advantage, but because they made it so clear that flagrant penalties wouldn't be called, that it was a free for all where the teams were lucky to get out without any injuries.

 

[Timothy A]

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They are considered the top crew in the WCHA. They worked the WCHA Championship game, the only NCAA quarter hosted by a WCHA team, and the Frozen Four last year. In the past, Dan Lick and Robert Ludwig have worked such games. It may be a case of familiarity breeding contempt; if you watch any of the officials enough times you're bound to see something that you don't like.

You certainly forgot the in your post. I love your dry sense of humor, kinda in the style of Bob Newhart. Now please tell us who REALLY reffed the WCHA Championship game, the ncaa 1/4 final and the FF. Don't make me go dig that stuff up myself.

And it wasn't familiarity breeding contempt, it was incompetence breeding contempt. Friday and Saturday there were not jump out of your seat non-calls. We all can say the refs screw this up and screw that up in any game, but when 50 people jump out of thier seats at the same time and the crowd roars, you know it's just not you as a fan being dramaitic, it's them.

 

[robertearle]

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I couldn't make it to the Sunday game, but listening on the radio they certainly made plenty of comments about this or that not being a penalty. It's amazing to me that the refs could have been even worse than Saturday. I don't mind at all when refs let the little stuff go, but when you don't call anything, it start getting downright dangerous. The second period Saturday had several players limping back to the benches after non-called illegal plays, and I wasn't even confident an arm would have gone up if there would have been a check from behind into the boards. Thankfully, they finally started making some calls later into the 3rd period.

I could easily argue that was the worst officiated game I've seen all year, not because one team or the other had any advantage, but because they made it so clear that flagrant penalties wouldn't be called, that it was a free for all where the teams were lucky to get out without any injuries.

IMO, in terms of the severity of stuff that should have been called but wasn't, Sunday was MUCH worse than Saturday.

 

[ARM]

Now please tell us who REALLY reffed the WCHA Championship game, the ncaa 1/4 final and the FF. Don't make me go dig that stuff up myself.

Sometimes the reason there is no smilie is because it is not a joke. No wink -- Wrazidlo and Langley are regarded as the top pair by the WCHA Supervisor of Officials, and no, I don't share that opinion. Particularly of the former, who dreamed up a 5-minute CFB call in the NCAA Qtr on a play that hadn't been a major all season. That is my problem with referees in general in the postseason. They don't call much, so the players adjust to the fact that nothing is being called, and then they make a random call later in the game. If it is any consolation, the officials seem to be even less consistent in the other leagues from what I've seen.

 

[robertearle]

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Wrazidlo and Langley are regarded as the top pair by the WCHA Supervisor of Officials, and no, I don't share that opinion.

Arlan, serious question - have you ever seen or do you know of a WCHA or NCAA game (not to mention a playoff game) where there were zero penalties called?

 

[NMH]

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Both Saturday and Sunday there were a number of penalties uncalled in both directions - including a goaltender interference not called on Rigs on Sunday. This isn't a matter of whiny fans or judgement calls, IMO. It was as though they decided not to be a factor in the game and in doing so swung the pendulum so far in the other direction to come back around. It was crazy and more than a little scary. I haven't had that sick sense of dread where you're just waiting for it to go totally wrong in a really long time, but it felt very inevitable by mid-game Sunday.

With different teams on the ice (with more animosity between them and more on the line) those games would have gotten totally out of hand. It's amazing to me that these ones did not. Somehow, neither team really took advantage of the free-for-all and went after the other or became particularly more dirty. That everyone was still standing at the end was a minor miracle.

 

[robertearle]

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\That everyone was still standing at the end was a minor miracle.

I won't completely relax on that account until I see Ammerman in uniform next Friday...

 

[NMH]

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I won't completely relax on that account until I see Ammerman in uniform next Friday...

I think I'm more worried about Packer.

 

[WiscDC]

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Arlan, serious question - have you ever seen or do you know of a WCHA or NCAA game (not to mention a playoff game) where there were zero penalties called?

The second CC-Wisconsin men's game this year was penalty free. Unlike what we saw this weekend, it was because the two teams were playing very cleanly.

 

[ARM]

Arlan, serious question - have you ever seen or do you know of a WCHA or NCAA game (not to mention a playoff game) where there were zero penalties called?

I'm sure that there have been penalty-free games. Maybe back in the days of one referee if nothing else. I don't have a box score of such a game, but if somebody wanted to click through games for the seldom-penalized teams each season, one would pop up eventually.

 

[Timothy A]

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Sometimes the reason there is no smilie is because it is not a joke. No wink -- Wrazidlo and Langley are regarded as the top pair by the WCHA Supervisor of Officials, and no, I don't share that opinion. Particularly of the former, who dreamed up a 5-minute CFB call in the NCAA Qtr on a play that hadn't been a major all season. That is my problem with referees in general in the postseason. They don't call much, so the players adjust to the fact that nothing is being called, and then they make a random call later in the game. If it is any consolation, the officials seem to be even less consistent in the other leagues from what I've seen.

I guess you didn't read the wink into my over the top post.......

I was very thankful UW did not retaliate, they have been are a fiesty team in that way. It could have cost them the game and the series.

I suppose the sue have thier Olympians all back, correct?

 

[Timothy A]

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I keep forgetting to mention Saturday my son got to ride the Zamboni between the 2nd and 3rd periods and his friend got to do it between the 1st and 2nd. That was pretty cool, especially with the band playing so he could do the song jestures as he was riding. I had thought they had reserved that for kids younger than HS, what a neat surpirse. Of course I had to sign 3 waivers per child.....

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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I keep forgetting to mention Saturday my son got to ride the Zamboni between the 2nd and 3rd periods and his friend got to do it between the 1st and 2nd. That was pretty cool, especially with the band playing so he could do the song jestures as he was riding. I had thought they had reserved that for kids younger than HS, what a neat surpirse. Of course I had to sign 3 waivers per child.....

He should have gone morph suit only. On second thought, tell him thanks for not going morph suit only.