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Wisconsin 2020 Off-season thread - Serenity Now!

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Timothy A said:
I'm a Schumi guy, so not unless they were racing for 2nd and 3rd LOL.
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Ive been a Raikkonen guy since my first F-1 race at Indy in 2000. MCR Jr and I went to 5 in the 7 year stretch. Jr was always a Schumi kid. With Kimi's retirement on the horizon, Max Verstappen is my next man up, possibly Valtteri Bottas. Ive softened on F-1 the past few years and have been following the IMSA Weathertech Series and World Endurance Championship.
 
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MadCityRich said:
Ive been a Raikkonen guy since my first F-1 race at Indy in 2000. MCR Jr and I went to 5 in the 7 year stretch. Jr was always a Schumi kid. With Kimi's retirement on the horizon, Max Verstappen is my next man up, possibly Valtteri Bottas. Ive softened on F-1 the past few years and have been following the IMSA Weathertech Series and World Endurance Championship.
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I typically root for Germans due to myself being mostly of German decent and for Ferrari since the Schumi Todt and Braun resurrected them. I was pretty jazzed to see Vettel in the prancing stallions, but they are not able to give him a car that he needs and he has lost a bit of personal performance.

I am also a Ford guy, I am PO'ed they took the GT out of service in the 2 series they were in. I know they just followed the plan, but they should have changed their minds and continued on.

On the hockey front, there is a great interview with Oz out there. https://t.co/67JvZ97IHD?amp=1 It was nice to get confirmation that Ranta couldn't get into UW due to grades and that the Skille/Kessel thing was real. Oz said semiquote "You knew if you were going to get one you weren't getting the other". Turned out ok for us. He also said he was happy for DG about the Hawks gig but disappointed he left because he was so tight with him. I didn't know the TG, DG and Oz knew each other since Oz was in 8th grade. I really wanted to know what went wrong at OSU, but despite the interview being over an hour, they didn't get to it. He also implied that this trend of getting brothers on the team had reached it's limit. I think there's some easy reading between the lines there. He also had some good points about the USDP and how DG ran it vs how it is being run now and the decisions a player has to make trying to figure out where they fit it.

One overall picture I got out of it is that at many of his stops the most talented teams didn't necessarily win the most games or the titles. There is a special ingredient of leadership that is required to get the mix to work right. I always knew that, but sometimes it gets a little lost. It refreshing to hear Oz talk from his heart and as if he was sharing a beer with a buddy around a campfire. There were no talking points or company lines that had to be towed.
 
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sunprairie said:
Robbie Beydoun is graduate-transferring to UW. Oh, the irony of the guy who couldn’t get playing time at Tech behind Jurusik, who grew into a talented and mature college hockey goalie, getting “wooed” by UW and making his way to Madison, where the Badgers will now have four tendies in camp this year. https://madison.com/wsj/sports/coll...cle_a26effce-8fea-525c-a50d-fe1a281dff0d.html
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Paraphrasing Tommy D “maybe it’s maybe i’m a little ****ed up maybe, we need a goalie how? Tell me! Tell me how we need a goalie? What the **** is so funny about this?!?!”

Seriously though, Granato just doesn’t seem to learn from past mistakes (Hayton) and doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about optics.

This is a desperate move imo.
 
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So the pecking order will be Beydoun-Rowe-Lebedeff-Grannan-Garrity? I'm not convinced that either one of Lebedeff/Rowe can be a championship goaltender. I know nothing about Beydoun. Eliteprospects has Grannan coming in next year.

I don't like that Rowe/Grannan have bad numbers. Sub 90 save percentage for a few seasons now doesn't give me confidence, especially with how we *try* to play defense.
 
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gwhinwi said:
I got rid of my last VCR when I moved back up here from Georgia. Now I'm kicking myself about getting rid of it.

I got a copy of all of the 80's Olympic coverage a while ago. It's not the best quality, but it's every game, but I think it's all of the footage that was on TV.
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I love my VHS player. I have every final since 1980 and many games from the 80's when I was in the Navy My parents would record games and send to me when stationed In Naples, Italy and Okinawa, Hawaii.
 
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Really confused by this goalie grad transfer move.

Oh, I get it, it worked out so well with Hayton (which turned out to be the biggest disappointment since Slap Shot 2).

At least this guy was in the USHL and not the NAHL.
 
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MadCityRich said:
Really confused by this goalie grad transfer move.

Oh, I get it, it worked out so well with Hayton (which turned out to be the biggest disappointment since Slap Shot 2).

At least this guy was in the USHL and not the NAHL.
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I’m not completely putting this in the Hayton category until we hear more. From the initial player announcement at least it feels completely different and I’ll give Robbie credit for that. Where Hayton came in as the “stud of the hockey world” with the attitude to match it, Robbie is saying he is looking forward to becoming part of a good goalie group. He doesn’t seem to have hockey-playing ambition beyond college and instead talked about wanting to use his grad degree to get into hockey analytics. Maybe he comes in and plays a mentor/coach role to the younger goalies, which wouldn’t be terrible as long as the coaches talk through that with the team. So before calling this Hayton 2.0, because I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, maybe this could be good for the group if Robbie actually comes in knowing and wanting to actually do the work to become part of the team and not the savior. Again, all straight from my backside, but hope is all the world leaves us with right now!
 
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sunprairie said:
I’m not completely putting this in the Hayton category until we hear more. From the initial player announcement at least it feels completely different and I’ll give Robbie credit for that. Where Hayton came in as the “stud of the hockey world” with the attitude to match it, Robbie is saying he is looking forward to becoming part of a good goalie group. He doesn’t seem to have hockey-playing ambition beyond college and instead talked about wanting to use his grad degree to get into hockey analytics. Maybe he comes in and plays a mentor/coach role to the younger goalies, which wouldn’t be terrible as long as the coaches talk through that with the team. So before calling this Hayton 2.0, because I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, maybe this could be good for the group if Robbie actually comes in knowing and wanting to actually do the work to become part of the team and not the savior. Again, all straight from my backside, but hope is all the world leaves us with right now!
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With all due respect, that's not how I read this statement from Milewski: "He's applying to study for a master's degree in either business analytics or data analytics and said his goal is to follow his playing career by working in hockey analytics." Beydoun didn't say his "college" career, he said his "playing" career. A "playing" career could include the pros.

I also interpreted the article that he has every intention of battling for the starting role and playing significant minutes. Furthermore, I suspect he wouldn't have signed if the Wiscy coaches didn't tell him that was a very likely assumption.
 
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FLHockeyMom said:
With all due respect, that's not how I read this statement from Milewski: "He's applying to study for a master's degree in either business analytics or data analytics and said his goal is to follow his playing career by working in hockey analytics." Beydoun didn't say his "college" career, he said his "playing" career. A "playing" career could include the pros.

I also interpreted the article that he has every intention of battling for the starting role and playing significant minutes. Furthermore, I suspect he wouldn't have signed if the Wiscy coaches didn't tell him that was a very likely assumption.
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That's what I got out of it.

I'm sure he's a great kid (after all, he's a 'tendie) and he is definitely intelligent. I just don't like this move on Granato's part. That said if he becomes the starter, I hope he holds down the fort.
 
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digitalbooya said:
So the pecking order will be Beydoun-Rowe-Lebedeff-Grannan-Garrity? I'm not convinced that either one of Lebedeff/Rowe can be a championship goaltender. I know nothing about Beydoun. Eliteprospects has Grannan coming in next year.

I don't like that Rowe/Grannan have bad numbers. Sub 90 save percentage for a few seasons now doesn't give me confidence, especially with how we *try* to play defense.
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Grannan isn't coming next year per Todd D Milewski. See my DM with Todd below.

What's the deal with Noah grannan? Indications were he was supposed to come next year but there's no talk about that anymore online anywhere.
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I wrote about it before the exhibition game on new year's day. He's not coming in for at least another year, maybe 2. Had a really bad u17 year and hasn't been much better this year from what I know
 
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sunprairie said:
I’m not completely putting this in the Hayton category until we hear more. From the initial player announcement at least it feels completely different and I’ll give Robbie credit for that. Where Hayton came in as the “stud of the hockey world” with the attitude to match it, Robbie is saying he is looking forward to becoming part of a good goalie group. He doesn’t seem to have hockey-playing ambition beyond college and instead talked about wanting to use his grad degree to get into hockey analytics. Maybe he comes in and plays a mentor/coach role to the younger goalies, which wouldn’t be terrible as long as the coaches talk through that with the team. So before calling this Hayton 2.0, because I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, maybe this could be good for the group if Robbie actually comes in knowing and wanting to actually do the work to become part of the team and not the savior. Again, all straight from my backside, but hope is all the world leaves us with right now!
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I agree to the extent that we don't really know WHAT happened to Hayton, so we can't assume Robbie will go down the same path, but we do know Hayton got tossed into the hype machine. It will be fascinating to see how TG handles this, either going "full bore hype machine" or "he's here to compete, let's see how it shakes out". I vote for #2.
 
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Timothy A said:
I agree to the extent that we don't really know WHAT happened to Hayton, so we can't assume Robbie will go down the same path, but we do know Hayton got tossed into the hype machine. It will be fascinating to see how TG handles this, either going "full bore hype machine" or "he's here to compete, let's see how it shakes out". I vote for #2.
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I vote for #2, too. And if that is what happens, at least we'll know the team learned something from the dangers of the hype machine. I also want to clarify what I write above - of course I expect Robbie to compete. He's a D1 college athlete, that's what they do. I am just glad to see him saying the right things about being part of the team on the way in. By all accounts from Tech he was a good teammate, and that was never the Hayton storyline. If Robbie has that mindset, adding a 24-year-old goalie on a team that lacks mature leadership might not be the worst thing.
 
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Timothy A said:
Grannan isn't coming next year per Todd D Milewski. See my DM with Todd below.

What's the deal with Noah grannan? Indications were he was supposed to come next year but there's no talk about that anymore online anywhere.
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I wrote about it before the exhibition game on new year's day. He's not coming in for at least another year, maybe 2. Had a really bad u17 year and hasn't been much better this year from what I know
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I have Grannan pushed off until at least '21-'22 at this point... but it may be further.
 
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In looking at Hayton's post UW days, he didn't play hockey last year and the year before had UW like numbers for 3 different ECHL teams over only 24 games. I think something was going on there, there is a story to be told. A player just doesn't go from being an elite player to off a cliff like that and never bounce back.
 
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