Last edited:
USCHO Fan Forum
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
-
The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.
Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
- Thread starter joecct
- Start date
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
Your Boston forecast, ladies and gentlemen.
http://www.newnownext.com/gay-news-anchor-twitter-weather-pounding-inches-blaine-stewart/01/2018/
Your Boston forecast, ladies and gentlemen.
http://www.newnownext.com/gay-news-anchor-twitter-weather-pounding-inches-blaine-stewart/01/2018/
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
The good news about the blizzard is it warmed up today. I wore my light jacket today; it was 12F when I got to work. It felt pretty nice. My face didn’t hurt on my walk in. Eventually it got up to the high 20s. After we get dumped on it’s supposed to drop back down to zero (real, not with wind chill) for the weekend (when I want to be out skiing in the new snow)
The good news about the blizzard is it warmed up today. I wore my light jacket today; it was 12F when I got to work. It felt pretty nice. My face didn’t hurt on my walk in. Eventually it got up to the high 20s. After we get dumped on it’s supposed to drop back down to zero (real, not with wind chill) for the weekend (when I want to be out skiing in the new snow)
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
It is possible to be too cold to snow. Weird, huh?
It is possible to be too cold to snow. Weird, huh?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
Today was gorgeous out. Did a quick swing outside to check on an installation when I was down at the plant. The sun felt so good. It was totally bearable without a jacket even though there was a breeze and it was single digits.
Today was gorgeous out. Did a quick swing outside to check on an installation when I was down at the plant. The sun felt so good. It was totally bearable without a jacket even though there was a breeze and it was single digits.
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
A bit windy on the west side where I am, but yeah, that sun helped.
A bit windy on the west side where I am, but yeah, that sun helped.
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
Case in point...
Wow. You don't see that very often. (Brent being right, I mean.)
Case in point...
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
I mean, he's not wrong under the vast majority of conditions. Obviously if you have 100% humidity at -100 degF and it drops to -125 degF, it's going to snow as the moisture in the air falls out. It's not going to be very much snow, but it's going to snow in some form.
Honestly, it wasn't even that bad in the Twin Cities. Up north in Ely or International Falls, that's a different animal altogether. Or even in the Dakotas.
There was an awesome blog post written by someone living in Alaska when the temperatures got down to -60 degF (maybe even as low as -80 degF). The one thing I still remember is that he said you had to be careful at those temperatures because the tires on your car can shatter unexpectedly.
Case in point...
I mean, he's not wrong under the vast majority of conditions. Obviously if you have 100% humidity at -100 degF and it drops to -125 degF, it's going to snow as the moisture in the air falls out. It's not going to be very much snow, but it's going to snow in some form.
Honestly, it wasn't even that bad in the Twin Cities. Up north in Ely or International Falls, that's a different animal altogether. Or even in the Dakotas.
There was an awesome blog post written by someone living in Alaska when the temperatures got down to -60 degF (maybe even as low as -80 degF). The one thing I still remember is that he said you had to be careful at those temperatures because the tires on your car can shatter unexpectedly.
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
I just remember a few years back when we had an arctic blast of winter that lasted for a week or so. In the middle of that arctic blast we received some snow. The meteorologists were all on the air explaining that the old axiom "too cold to snow" is simply not a real thing. While it's rare to get snow during -20F weather, it's not impossible, and that there is a history of it.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
There's a big gap in the "this is too cold for people" spectrum between traditionally warm and cold places because in the latter people are prepared. When they go out in South Carolina when it's 25 in their normal winter clothes they genuinely are too cold, because they've got at most a long sleeve shirt and maybe a crappy raincoat. In Ithaca you've got layers and a good hat and warm gloves, so even at -10 you're not happy but you're doing OK.
Plus, they never learn what I learned my first winter in Ithaca trudging up Libe Slope in a f-cking lateral snow storm: the Paul Atreides Technique. Don't stiffen up but let the cold just pass through you like you're not there. Relaxing into the frigid cold was highly counter-intuitive when I first thought to do it, but it's my secret, anyway: don't fight the cold; join it.*
This has been your Moment of Zen.
* Though this may also be how people die of hypothermia.
There's a big gap in the "this is too cold for people" spectrum between traditionally warm and cold places because in the latter people are prepared. When they go out in South Carolina when it's 25 in their normal winter clothes they genuinely are too cold, because they've got at most a long sleeve shirt and maybe a crappy raincoat. In Ithaca you've got layers and a good hat and warm gloves, so even at -10 you're not happy but you're doing OK.
Plus, they never learn what I learned my first winter in Ithaca trudging up Libe Slope in a f-cking lateral snow storm: the Paul Atreides Technique. Don't stiffen up but let the cold just pass through you like you're not there. Relaxing into the frigid cold was highly counter-intuitive when I first thought to do it, but it's my secret, anyway: don't fight the cold; join it.*
This has been your Moment of Zen.
* Though this may also be how people die of hypothermia.
Last edited:
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
I thought "too cold for snow" was really about a lack of humidity. There are temperatures which can't support enough water vapor to form snow. But that could be a complete myth.
I thought "too cold for snow" was really about a lack of humidity. There are temperatures which can't support enough water vapor to form snow. But that could be a complete myth.
Deutsche Gopher Fan
Registered User
Eh, it was bad here. My dog fell over trying to do her business and can’t say I blame her.
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
Didn't Twain say something like "The coldest winter in my life was a summer in San Francisco?"
Having lived three years in a log cabin at the top of the Santa Cruz Mountains not far from the City, I can say that 35 damp and windy degrees often felt like zero.
Didn't Twain say something like "The coldest winter in my life was a summer in San Francisco?"
Having lived three years in a log cabin at the top of the Santa Cruz Mountains not far from the City, I can say that 35 damp and windy degrees often felt like zero.
JF_Gophers
2147483647
were you writing a manifesto?
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
Some weird situations in Boston area due to the blizzard following extremely cold weather. We've got "slurpee waves" and ice shrapnel. Needless to say, there are folks out sightseeing and surfing.
Some weird situations in Boston area due to the blizzard following extremely cold weather. We've got "slurpee waves" and ice shrapnel. Needless to say, there are folks out sightseeing and surfing.
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
I was better at cutting wood than writing.
I was better at cutting wood than writing.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
That's exactly what I do. Just relax and let it go. I have no idea if it's complete bullsh|t, but if I had to guess it has to do with your muscles tensing up and your blood being restricted. Doesn't give a chance for your body to heat itself.
I think your comment at the end probably isn't too far from the truth either.
That's exactly what I do. Just relax and let it go. I have no idea if it's complete bullsh|t, but if I had to guess it has to do with your muscles tensing up and your blood being restricted. Doesn't give a chance for your body to heat itself.
I think your comment at the end probably isn't too far from the truth either.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
That's exactly right. Air can hold an asston of water. But it decreases exponentially as you approach absolute zero. I think at around -20 or -30 you can hold something like .2 lb of water per x,000 cubic feet of air. That might not be a lot relative to water capacity at 100 degF, but it's still something. The biggest thing is that you also have strata of air pockets. Look at a sounding diagram and you can see that the air above the ground can be warmer and more humid than the surface temperature. As the strata mix or exchange energy and water, snow can easily happen even if you're at a very low surface humidity.
More on soundings: Link
ETA: This is why I have learned to really like advanced weather sites that go beyond "Here's our custom 'Feels Like' temperature that scales from 'It's a *** bit nipply' to 'Oh dear...'"
Shut up and give me the numbers. A good way to know a good site from a bad site is whether they give you humidity in relative humidity or dewpoint. If you get RH, find a new site.
There are also more advanced variables like CAPE, lifted index, CIN, and many more that can give you a far better idea of what's coming and the potential than "Looks like ran, Hal"
That's exactly right. Air can hold an asston of water. But it decreases exponentially as you approach absolute zero. I think at around -20 or -30 you can hold something like .2 lb of water per x,000 cubic feet of air. That might not be a lot relative to water capacity at 100 degF, but it's still something. The biggest thing is that you also have strata of air pockets. Look at a sounding diagram and you can see that the air above the ground can be warmer and more humid than the surface temperature. As the strata mix or exchange energy and water, snow can easily happen even if you're at a very low surface humidity.
More on soundings: Link
ETA: This is why I have learned to really like advanced weather sites that go beyond "Here's our custom 'Feels Like' temperature that scales from 'It's a *** bit nipply' to 'Oh dear...'"
Shut up and give me the numbers. A good way to know a good site from a bad site is whether they give you humidity in relative humidity or dewpoint. If you get RH, find a new site.
There are also more advanced variables like CAPE, lifted index, CIN, and many more that can give you a far better idea of what's coming and the potential than "Looks like ran, Hal"
Last edited:
Re: Winter Weather 2017-18 where EVERYONE argues.
What sites do you use? It used to be you could get the raw numbers from the news broadcasts and newspapers, but they've dumbed down their content over the past 20 years.
That's exactly right. Air can hold an asston of water. But it decreases exponentially as you approach absolute zero. I think at around -20 or -30 you can hold something like .2 lb of water per x,000 cubic feet of air. That might not be a lot relative to water capacity at 100 degF, but it's still something. The biggest thing is that you also have strata of air pockets. Look at a sounding diagram and you can see that the air above the ground can be warmer and more humid than the surface temperature. As the strata mix or exchange energy and water, snow can easily happen even if you're at a very low surface humidity.
More on soundings: Link
ETA: This is why I have learned to really like advanced weather sites that go beyond "Here's our custom 'Feels Like' temperature that scales from 'It's a *** bit nipply' to 'Oh dear...'"
Shut up and give me the numbers. A good way to know a good site from a bad site is whether they give you humidity in relative humidity or dewpoint. If you get RH, find a new site.
There are also more advanced variables like CAPE, lifted index, CIN, and many more that can give you a far better idea of what's coming and the potential than "Looks like ran, Hal"
What sites do you use? It used to be you could get the raw numbers from the news broadcasts and newspapers, but they've dumbed down their content over the past 20 years.