Will Paul Stewart ever be held accountable for ECAC officiating?

[AspyDad]

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I would hardly call WaP objective.

Tom R , Ed D and Gary at WaP call em as they see them. There every bit as objective as Schott (Union) and Wodon at CHN who is in the bag for Cornell

 

[troyboy]

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Sorry my friend but I have to disagree on the Dolan call. The initial contact was good, no question, but then it looked like Bo lost sight of the puck and engaged the UNH player a second longer to give himself the time to locate the puck. As soon as I saw it I thought to myself, Penalty.

That is the crux of the problem there were plenty of no calls all night both ways then all of a sudden that call is made I personally think it was a cheap ticky tacky call especially at that point of the game. My issue w/ECAC officials is and always has been poor judgement. It seem there is no overiding philosophy as to how a game is going to be called it is different ref to ref-game to game-team to team consistancy comes from the top and the fish stinks from the head down !. As for aspyDad he had a rough week he changed hair gel this week. He is now using the same gel OGC uses and is struggling a bit with it he has had several bad hair days this week and is on a short fuse. My understandind is he is going to meet w/OGC monday to get it all straightened out...Lets Hope !

 

[Ralph Baer]

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That is the crux of the problem there were plenty of no calls all night both ways then all of a sudden that call is made I personally think it was a cheap ticky tacky call especially at that point of the game. My issue w/ECAC officials is and always has been poor judgement. It seem there is no overiding philosophy as to how a game is going to be called it is different ref to ref-game to game-team to team consistancy comes from the top and the fish stinks from the head down !. As for aspyDad he had a rough week he changed hair gel this week. He is now using the same gel OGC uses and is struggling a bit with it he has had several bad hair days this week and is on a short fuse. My understandind is he is going to meet w/OGC monday to get it all straightened out...Lets Hope !

He is going to meet with OGC to get his hair straightened out?

 

[AspyDad]

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He is going to meet with OGC to get his hair straightened out?

That was my brother's attempt at humor.

 

[AspyDad]

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That is the crux of the problem there were plenty of no calls all night both ways then all of a sudden that call is made I personally think it was a cheap ticky tacky call especially at that point of the game. My issue w/ECAC officials is and always has been poor judgement. It seem there is no overiding philosophy as to how a game is going to be called it is different ref to ref-game to game-team to team consistancy comes from the top and the fish stinks from the head down !. As for aspyDad he had a rough week he changed hair gel this week. He is now using the same gel OGC uses and is struggling a bit with it he has had several bad hair days this week and is on a short fuse. My understandind is he is going to meet w/OGC monday to get it all straightened out...Lets Hope !

I love the Turk-Man but that was a crap call. Do you think HE officials would have made that at HE home venue? No Way. Standing a guy up at the blue line when he has puck is not interference. Roy and O'Brien interjected themselves in the game which is the norm for ECAC refs. BTW- the tall linesman last night was excellent.

 

[ilovehockeyfights]

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I thought Roy was a Hockey East official?
Either way, aspydad needs to get a **** grip.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I love the Turk-Man but that was a crap call. Do you think HE officials would have made that at HE home venue? No Way. Standing a guy up at the blue line when he has puck is not interference. Roy and O'Brien interjected themselves in the game which is the norm for ECAC refs. BTW- the tall linesman last night was excellent.

Was that the Shattie one?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I thought Roy was a Hockey East official?
Either way, aspydad needs to get a **** grip.

Referees can officiate in more than one league, and commonly do. I remember Benedetto did either the BC or BU game, and he's done plenty of ECAC before. Same with Hansen, whom I was surprised to see agreed to an RPI game; I guess 7 years was enough time.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Tom R , Ed D and Gary at WaP call em as they see them. There every bit as objective as Schott (Union) and Wodon at CHN who is in the bag for Cornell

Given some of your previous posts, I rest my case.

 

[Jon]

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I remember Benedetto did either the BC or BU game, and he's done plenty of ECAC before. Same with Hansen, whom I was surprised to see agreed to an RPI game; I guess 7 years was enough time.

Let us be the first people to apologize to you. Profusely.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Let us be the first people to apologize to you. Profusely.

Don't feed.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Don't you know RPI and SLU would be 10-time national co-champions if it weren't for ECAC refs?

Cornell OTOH would have had even more championships because their fans claim that all games that they lose didn't actually exist.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Let us be the first people to apologize to you. Profusely.

You don't know the reason for the seven year reference, do you...

For any RPI fans who don't, the next time you go to HFH, notice the kick mark on the side of the RPI bench near the penalty boxes. If you remember what caused it, that's why.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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2 for 1's!!

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Are you talking about UNH's second goal and RPI's called back goal? Watch the game on RPI-TV's archive; those were both the correct call.

I would hardly call WaP objective. On that Haggs goal, Laliberté's foot was very clearly in the crease.

Rule 73.1: - A player of the attacking team may stand on the goal crease line or in the goal crease, or skate through the goal crease, unless, in the opinion of the official, the player is physically or visually preventing the goalkeeper from defending the goal.
PENALTY—If a goal is scored, it shall be disallowed. Faceoff at the nearest neutral zone faceoff spot.

Given where Laliberté was, he was there on his own will (if the player is pushed into the crease, the goal stands), and where the pucked crossed the line relative to his position, it was the correct call.

The Dolan interference call, assuming you were talking about the one in the 3rd, was obvious and incredibly dumb. I even mentioned it on the score thread.

I may be an RPI fan, but one thing I am is honest. I may overreact at times, but I will never disagree with a good call for the sole purpose of attempting to preserve or promote brand loyalty.

Here's the play:

http://rpitv.org/productions/614-mens-hockey-vs-university-of-new-hampshire

2nd period, 17:15: Puck clearly between both posts and under the crossbar; the apron that touches the ice behind the goal was not strong enough to prevent the puck from staying in the net. Well before the net came off.
2nd period, 26:10: Laliberté was in the crease and directly in front of the goalkeeper, thereby visually preventing the goalkeeper from defending the goal.
3rd period, 19:25: Clear and dumb penalty. Interference? No. Holding? Yes.

To quote Seth Appert, "I don't think there'll be any questions after that."

 

[fishcore12]

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You don't know the reason for the seven year reference, do you...

For any RPI fans who don't, the next time you go to HFH, notice the kick mark on the side of the RPI bench near the penalty boxes. If you remember what caused it, that's why.

The heck you talking about dude? Are you making reference to the time you threw a towel onto the ice again?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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The heck you talking about dude? Are you making reference to the time you threw a towel onto the ice again?

I have never thrown a towel onto the ice. I am talking about senior night 2005-06 when Hansen missed calling an RPI goal, Fridgen almost went out on the ice after him, and subsequently made a dent in the penalty box wall with his foot. RPI ended up losing the game by 1.

 

[mookie1995]

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See the job done by Refs O'Brien and Roy at HFH tonight.

geez.. it's not like anyone died!

 

[FreshFish]

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The conspiracy theorist might speculate that, not only is Paul Stewart indeed being held accountable, he might also actually be rewarded for the way he is having officials call ECAC games. Some people present him as the type of Scorpio that delights in tormenting his critics by doing more of what they criticize him for doing.

I have no idea whether reverse psychology would work....."Mr. Stewart does a wonderful job supervising referees. The inconsistency in their calls keeps everyone alert and on their toes at all times. You never know what to expect next!"

 

[ibanezist00]

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To add my possibly worthless two cents, I don't even care if they over or under-call penalties in this league -- what I want is CONSISTENCY one way or the other, not biased toward either side of the equation, particularly in OOC games. I get that blown calls happen here and there, but the past few seasons have been more than just "here and there".

Credit to all but the UNH game though, it's mostly been an improvement so far overall.