Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

[Fred.Davenport]

Wow!

Over 50 DIII Colleges and Universities offer Women's Ice Hockey, while there only 10 in the National Polls.

This is a DISGRACE and I hope that others will agree that USCHO and other pollsters will have at least 25 in the National polls next year.

There are 60 Division I men's programs, with "20" in the poll, while DIII with 54 only has "10".....hmmmmm

Most all sports similar to women's ice hockey (Lacrosse, Field Hockey, and others) have at least 20 in all their polls

This is not the way to promote women's ice hockey or any sport by having a meager 10 (out of 54) in the polls

The more schools who are ranked in national polls, the happier college presidents, trustees, student-athletes, parents, fans and alumni are

Does not cost one more penny to have the USCHO national poll be 25 universities

please, please add more in 16-17

Thank You USCHO!!



1 Plattsburgh 8944. .9816 1 29-1-0 0.9667 29.000 2 454.8
2 Adrian 1920. .9253 2 25-3-1 0.8793 7.286 4 295.4
3 Elmira 1913. .9250 4 23-5-1 0.8103 4.273 1 478.4
4 Amherst 1272. .8967 3 20-3-3 0.8269 4.778 5 289.1
5 Middlebury 1130. .8870 8t 21-6-3 0.7500 3.000 3 393.1
6 Wisconsin-River Falls 811.9 .8557 7 23-6-2 0.7742 3.429 7 248.6
7 Lake Forest 629.9 .8272 5 19-4-3 0.7885 3.727 11 180.0
8 Norwich 522.1 .8034 11 17-7-0 0.7083 2.429 8 223.7
9 Utica 519.7 .8028 12 17-8-1 0.6731 2.059 6 259.9
10 Wisconsin-Stevens Point 415.0 .7710 14 17-8-3 0.6607 1.947 9 218.4
11 St. Thomas 400.9 .7658 8t 20-6-2 0.7500 3.000 19 139.9
12 Castleton 295.0 .7161 10 15-5-2 0.7273 2.667 27 116.2
13 Connecticut College 276.9 .7050 17 12-7-3 0.6136 1.588 12 178.0
14 Buffalo State 269.6 .7002 13 16-8-0 0.6667 2.000 21 138.9
15 St. Norbert 258.5 .6927 18 15-9-4 0.6071 1.545 14 169.9
16 Trinity 227.6 .6692 16 14-8-2 0.6250 1.667 20 139.5
17 Williams 185.2 .6291 23 12-12-1 0.5000 1.000 10 185.2
18 Bethel 152.2 .5891 19 15-10-2 0.5926 1.455 33 106.1
19 Oswego 148.9 .5846 24 10-11-4 0.4800 0.923 15 160.8
20 Wisconsin-Superior 134.7 .5637 28 10-12-5 0.4630 0.862 17 155.5
21 Concordia (Minn.) 130.8 .5573 21 14-12-1 0.5370 1.160 30 113.3
22 Stevenson 129.1 .5546 6 12-3-1 0.7812 3.571 51 39.71
23 Augsburg 127.9 .5526 20 13-10-3 0.5577 1.261 35 102.3
24 Hamilton 126.9 .5509 25 9-10-4 0.4783 0.917 22 137.9
25 Wisconsin-Eau Claire 120.2 .5394 32 9-13-5 0.4259 0.742 16 160.2
26 St. Scholastica 118.1 .5357 35 9-14-2 0.4000 0.667 13 174.4
27 Bowdoin 104.4 .5092 34 8-12-2 0.4091 0.692 18 148.3
28 University of New England 104.3 .5090 15 11-6-2 0.6316 1.714 45 62.57
29 Gustavus Adolphus 99.20 .4983 29 9-11-5 0.4600 0.852 29 115.7
30 Cortland 95.98 .4912 31 10-13-1 0.4375 0.778 23 122.2
31 St. Mary's 85.13 .4655 30 10-13-3 0.4423 0.793 32 106.4
32 Massachusetts-Boston 71.06 .4272 22 13-12-0 0.5200 1.083 43 65.80
33 Colby 59.91 .3918 42 6-14-3 0.3261 0.484 25 119.8
34 Hamline 57.96 .3851 33 9-13-3 0.4200 0.724 42 79.04
35 Concordia (Wis.) 57.51 .3835 37 8-15-2 0.3600 0.562 36 99.88
36 William Smith 52.09 .3637 44 5-13-2 0.3000 0.429 28 116.2
37 Marian 51.90 .3629 43 7-16-2 0.3200 0.471 31 106.8
38 St. Catherine 51.23 .3604 40 6-14-5 0.3400 0.515 37 96.76
39 St. Benedict 46.38 .3411 40 7-15-3 0.3400 0.515 38 87.62
40 Potsdam 44.81 .3345 39 7-14-1 0.3409 0.517 39 84.02
41 Salve Regina 44.27 .3322 26 9-10-2 0.4762 0.909 47 48.49
42 Chatham 37.65 .3024 46 4-15-1 0.2250 0.290 24 120.5
43 Plymouth State 35.59 .2924 38 6-11-0 0.3529 0.545 44 62.96
44 Endicott 35.56 .2922 27 6-7-3 0.4688 0.882 50 40.00
45 Neumann 29.11 .2585 47 4-17-1 0.2045 0.257 34 104.8
46 Manhattanville 28.74 .2564 36 8-13-0 0.3810 0.615 48 45.64
47 Wesleyan 24.67 .2326 48t 2-15-2 0.1579 0.188 26 116.3
48 St. Olaf 12.50 .1468 50 2-21-2 0.1200 0.136 41 80.37
49 New England College 12.10 .1435 45 5-13-1 0.2895 0.407 52 28.24
50 Southern Maine 11.89 .1417 48t 2-15-2 0.1579 0.188 46 56.05
51 Nichols 5.590 .0815 52 2-18-0 0.1000 0.111 49 41.37
52 Canton 4.445 .0684 51 2-15-0 0.1176 0.133 53 27.56
53 Finlandia 1.611 .0298 53t 0-25-0 0.0000 0.000 40 82.16
54 Daniel Webster 0.8853 .0169 53t 0-7-0 0.0000 0.000 54 13.28


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-iii-women/#ixzz43aBkWvaR

 

[gojackets]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

Quite Frankly there aren't that many good teams. I could see maybe 15 but hell no on 25. The way it really plays out every year the top 5-6 are truly at the top...teams 7-10 could be any of maybe 5-6 teams and then the rest just aren't up there.

 

[giwan]

Quite Frankly there aren't that many good teams. I could see maybe 15 but hell no on 25. The way it really plays out every year the top 5-6 are truly at the top...teams 7-10 could be any of maybe 5-6 teams and then the rest just aren't up there.

Could make that argument for D1 women's bouncy ball. Only four (one) team matters. Then a mix of say 5-6 and the rest.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Could make that argument for D1 women's bouncy ball. Only four (one) team matters. Then a mix of say 5-6 and the rest.

I think that a case could be made for 15 in the near future, especially if schools keep adding programs as fast as they currently are.

But as go jackets said, currently there is a large gap between the top echelon of schools to the middle tier.

 

[Arafel]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

Why would you want a poll where half the teams are ranked? Also, your math seems a little off. 60 men's programs, with 20 in the poll (USA hockey ranks 15). 54 women's D-III programs, and you want 25 ranked?

Perhaps we'll go to 15 in the future, but 25 is silly and even 20 is I think too many. As a voter in all 4 USCHO polls, I can tell you that sometimes when voting the 15-20 spots in the men's D-I poll I feel like I'm just throwing darts and filling space.

 

[NUWH DogHouse]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

Maybe 15. 25 would be awful. Next season try the posters poll, picking #10 on a regular basis was hard enough.

 

[Ed Trefzger]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

The number of teams in each of the USCHO polls has to do with the number of teams in the NCAA tournament. We have 20 in the men's D-I poll and 15 in the men's D-III poll because there are 16 and 11 (soon to be 12) in each. Both women's polls have 10 because that's just a bit more than teams that qualify. Once you get past the top third or 25%, it gets difficult for voters to reasonably assess who should be ranked.

 

[SeymoreHockey]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

I never look past the top five anyway. Waste of time.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: Why only 10 in DIII National/USCHO Women's Ice Hockey Nat'l Polls :-(

As a voter in all 4 USCHO polls, I can tell you that sometimes when voting the 15-20 spots in the men's D-I poll I feel like I'm just throwing darts and filling space.

That sums it up nicely as to why it is NOT needed. Teams themselves usualy have a pretty good idea where they sit, and if they don't make the top 10 cut they know what to aim for to get there if they happen to be in the mix...beat a top 10 team when you meet them, and/or just keep winning.

 

[icehawk]

Quite Frankly there aren't that many good teams. I could see maybe 15 but hell no on 25. The way it really plays out every year the top 5-6 are truly at the top...teams 7-10 could be any of maybe 5-6 teams and then the rest just aren't up there.

This. 10 is plenty.