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What the Fark 3: The Strange and Unusual

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joecct said:
If they're both consenting adults, given the way court opinions are going, what's wrong with either of the marriages?
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I suppose everyone is just going to up and marry dogs, cars, trees, lampshades, etc., due to the court opinions, right?

That leap has always amused me.
 
johnnypohlfan said:
I suppose everyone is just going to up and marry dogs, cars, trees, lampshades, etc., due to the court opinions, right?

That leap has always amused me.
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Too far. But polyamory is about 20 years away from being legal.

It all exists now, but without legal recognition. When will de facto become de jure?
 
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joecct said:
Too far. But polyamory is about 20 years away from being legal.

It all exists now, but without legal recognition. When will de facto become de jure?
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1. Why do you care?

2. Assuming you do care, why should we care that you care?

3. Assuming we care that you care, what business is it of any of us if we're not directly involved?

Wither goes the cry for small government?
 
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Kepler said:
1. Why do you care?

2. Assuming you do care, why should we care that you care?

3. Assuming we care that you care, what business is it of any of us if we're not directly involved?
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If you have a situation where one man is married to two or more women, and it's recognized by the state, then we have a situation where we'll have to address the legal rights of everyone involved. My understanding is that the man and wife perform their vows to each other, and that any prior wives are not explicitly involved in those vows. Are the wives all considered to have become wed to one another now? How are survivor benefits paid out by the SSA? What about decisions made should the husband be on life support? Does the first wife hold more legal sway than the others in determining whether to pull the plug? Should poly-marriages become legally recognized, it raises a whole host of legal and even ethical questions.
 
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St. Clown said:
If you have a situation where one man is married to two or more women, and it's recognized by the state, then we have a situation where we'll have to address the legal rights of everyone involved. My understanding is that the man and wife perform their vows to each other, and that any prior wives are not explicitly involved in those vows. Are the wives all considered to have become wed to one another now? How are survivor benefits paid out by the SSA? What about decisions made should the husband be on life support? Does the first wife hold more legal sway than the others in determining whether to pull the plug? Should poly-marriages become legally recognized, it raises a whole host of legal and even ethical questions.
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And all of these things will get addressed if and when they need to be.

"I'm sorry, we're not going to extend a given right to you because it's a pain in the neck."
 
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Kepler said:
And all of these things will get addressed if and when they need to be.

"I'm sorry, we're not going to extend a given right to you because it's a pain in the neck."
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I'm not against it, I'm just saying that it's far more difficult a situation than anything we've seen thus far.
 
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St. Clown said:
I'm not against it, I'm just saying that it's far more difficult a situation than anything we've seen thus far.
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So is flying, marrying, and getting out of bed every morning.

Though to be fair, I'm open to rethinking the wisdom of those.
 
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Kepler said:
I'll put this here because it's so unusual. There is apparently one actual journalist left in this country.
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I think it's kind of funny that the fringe media is so outraged over this alleged trampling of freedom of the press rights. Curious their response if Goodman should burst through the front door of their home because she wanted to publicize what these lunatics might be doing inside.

Freedom of the press is just that, not some sort of master key that gives you access to wherever you want to go, whenever.
 
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SJHovey said:
I think it's kind of funny that the fringe media is so outraged over this alleged trampling of freedom of the press rights. Curious their response if Goodman should burst through the front door of their home because she wanted to publicize what these lunatics might be doing inside.

Freedom of the press is just that, not some sort of master key that gives you access to wherever you want to go, whenever.
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I think that misses the point. The story here isn't that she was arrested, and less what the media response to her arrest is. It's that somebody's actually trying to cover a story that the MSM wishes most profoundly would just go away. You aren't supposed to resist neo-liberal corporate power.

Getting arrested in a situation like this can be a good thing: force them to take you to trial and then introduce all the details of your story as your motivation for trespass. You lose whatever the penalty is, fine. Your story gets far bigger coverage and people start debating the issue. You've done a Good Thing.
 
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Kepler said:
I think that misses the point. The story here isn't that she was arrested, and less what the media response to her arrest is. It's that somebody's actually trying to cover a story that the MSM wishes most profoundly would just go away. You aren't supposed to resist neo-liberal corporate power.

Getting arrested in a situation like this can be a good thing: force them to take you to trial and then introduce all the details of your story as your motivation for trespass. You lose whatever the penalty is, fine. Your story gets far bigger coverage and people start debating the issue. You've done a Good Thing.
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Maybe in your world no one is looking at it, but I can tell you as someone living out here in midwest it has been extensively covered. There have probably been 30+ stories in the Minneapolis Star Tribune alone in just the month of September.

If the point is that people on the coasts are generally ignorant of what is going on in the rest of the country until we finally get around to throwing one of you clowns in jail, point conceded.
 
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SJHovey said:
If the point is that people on the coasts are generally ignorant of what is going on in the rest of the country until we finally get around to throwing one of you clowns in jail, point conceded.
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Pretty much. ;)

I wouldn't get that high and mighty about it, though. As a rule, people everywhere don't know d-ck about anywhere but their locality.

"Flyover country" is anywhere but Home.
 
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