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What has disappeared since you were a kid

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Sundays as day of rest. No stores open. No availability of liquor/alcohol on them.

This is still true in MN.

I'm not holding my breath for it.

Same here. From what I understand, car dealerships are a major force against it since the way it's worded would mean they would have to be open on Sundays as well.
Virtually all owners of car dealerships would love to be open for sales on Sunday. It's the counties / DPS offices that don't want to have to handle / process the piles of paperwork on Monday that would be generated from Sunday vehicle sales added to late Friday and Saturday sales. They like to limit their workload. ;)
 
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We were sitting in a miles-long traffic jam on I-80 in the Poconos today when it hit me -- what I wouldn't give for a CB radio.

All of this cell technology and we didn't know how long the backup was and what happened. With a CB, we'd have known from oncoming traffic that a semi had driven off the highway and the cab dropped over the edge of an overpass. We could have avoided the mess and gotten home an hour earlier.
 
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Advocates of "blue laws" generally confuse the concepts of being allowed to shop on Sundays with being required to. Anyone who doesn't want to shop on the Lord's day doesn't have to. For whatever reason.

It was Lee Brown, then police chief in Houston, who put an end to the Blue laws there. During the Christmas season one year, Brown annoounced that his department would not be investigating or responding to complaints of Blue law violations. And the thing just sort of died.

Before the end of this nonsense, stores that would be open 7 days a week, like Walgreen's, had to contend with a list of goods that couldn't be sold on consecutive weekend days. Like paint, but no paint brushes, baby formula but no bottles, batteries but not flashlights, etc. You'd go into a store on Sunday and whole sections would literally be roped off. It was irritating and stupid and pointless. It's been 25 years now since the Blue law has been dead and forgotten and I don't think Houston has lost its soul (at least not because you can buy formula and bottles on any day you d*mn please).

The leading proponant of the Blue laws in those days was the Houston Retail Merchants Association, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Foley's department store chain. They simply didn't want to have to make the business decision of whether or not it would be in their best interest to open their stores on Sundays, so they encouraged the state government to continue making the decision for them (and, co-incidentally, their competitors). Foley's is history and so is the Blue law.
 
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You might not be forced to shop but the thing that disturbed people around here was you could be forced to work on Sunday and not have an exclusion for religious reasons. It went to court and the women that brought the suit wanted Sunday to go to church. The court upheald the store's right to expect them to work. Of course that was years ago. Now you just know if you work retail you most likely will not get to church every week.
 
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You might not be forced to shop but the thing that disturbed people around here was you could be forced to work on Sunday and not have an exclusion for religious reasons. It went to court and the women that brought the suit wanted Sunday to go to church. The court upheald the store's right to expect them to work. Of course that was years ago. Now you just know if you work retail you most likely will not get to church every week.

That IS a different matter. I'm guessing different employers have different attitudes about that as I am also certain there are employees who used to spend Sundays watching the NFL who, faced with working on Sundays, suddenly found religion. I think most of us would favor an accomodation for religious expression. And I'm guessing (emphasize guessing) that most employers could work out a system for their workers which would allow those who wished to worship on Sunday (or Friday) to do so. It's not that complicated. And in retail, it's not like we're talking about Manhattan Project physicists. Swapping Mary for Bob on Sundays isn't exactly rocket science. But the pressure of business these days compels businesses to be open and their stores need to be staffed and I'm not comfortable minting a new right to have Sundays off to go to church. When push comes to shove, if you can't fulfill the job description, perhaps you should find another place to work. My bottom line is that we should avoid using the law to enforce religious doctrines and preferences--which Blue laws certainly do.

In Houston, the phony issue advanced by the Merchants Association was that people would be required to work 6 or 7 days a week and more than 40 hours. The fact that every state has a wage and hour board which would make that practice either illegal or very expensive didn't enter into the discussion. What the death of the Blue law did was create thousands of part time jobs.
 
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We were sitting in a miles-long traffic jam on I-80 in the Poconos today when it hit me -- what I wouldn't give for a CB radio.

All of this cell technology and we didn't know how long the backup was and what happened. With a CB, we'd have known from oncoming traffic that a semi had driven off the highway and the cab dropped over the edge of an overpass. We could have avoided the mess and gotten home an hour earlier.

On a distantly related matter: anybody else remember the long lines at the gas pumps and stations out of gas during the energy crisis in the late 70's? I was a kid but I vaguely remember you could only get gas on certain days (based on your license plate # IIRC).
 
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On a distantly related matter: anybody else remember the long lines at the gas pumps and stations out of gas during the energy crisis in the late 70's? I was a kid but I vaguely remember you could only get gas on certain days (based on your license plate # IIRC).

At the time, Uncle Sam printed up billions of gas coupons, in case we went to rationing. Thank God THAT didn't happen. I read a while ago that those coupons are in storage somewhere, in case we need them.
 
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At the time, Uncle Sam printed up billions of gas coupons, in case we went to rationing. Thank God THAT didn't happen. I read a while ago that those coupons are in storage somewhere, in case we need them.

Related: $1/gallon of gas.

Unrelated: How the villians have changed in movies. Growing up it was almost always Russians. Maybe the occasional Libyan (thanks, Back To The Future!), but it was rare. Nowadays, it's almost always Arabs of (name your country) and the occasional Russian.
 
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That tends to happen. I bet a lot of people remember them usually being Germans.

They are the fallback option, of course. But I liken that to Godwin's Law in a way. Only resort to that if you have to. And you probably still lose. ;)
 
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My favorite candy when I was kid was Bonkers.

Loved Bonkers!

I also loved Chuckles... I think they are still around somewhere. Oh, and only the yellow and green Chuckles. The black chuckles were gross.
 
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Loved Bonkers!

I also loved Chuckles... I think they are still around somewhere. Oh, and only the yellow and green Chuckles. The black chuckles were gross.

Agree on all counts.

The Giant Sweet Tarts (they were chewy) were awesome too.
 
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On a distantly related matter: anybody else remember the long lines at the gas pumps and stations out of gas during the energy crisis in the late 70's? I was a kid but I vaguely remember you could only get gas on certain days (based on your license plate # IIRC).
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Old Pio= in regard to accommodations for the religious exemptions- the attitude of the company that refused is majority. I am unaware of anyone who has the ability to achieve getting Sunday off. In fact it would be considered a strike against you by the employer. I have seen this as an issue for nurses, retail workers. No one is going to be able to change every week. Not possible around here. Like I said, if you work retail you miss church a lot.
 
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Old Pio= in regard to accommodations for the religious exemptions- the attitude of the company that refused is majority. I am unaware of anyone who has the ability to achieve getting Sunday off. In fact it would be considered a strike against you by the employer. I have seen this as an issue for nurses, retail workers. No one is going to be able to change every week. Not possible around here. Like I said, if you work retail you miss church a lot.

I remmber the long lines in 1973. I don't recall the later one as being a big inconvenience.
 
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Loved Bonkers!

I also loved Chuckles... I think they are still around somewhere. Oh, and only the yellow and green Chuckles. The black chuckles were gross.

I'll gladly take the black ones off your hands. :D
 
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