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Whale Wars
- Thread starter gojackets
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Foxton
Banned
Re: Whale Wars
I haven't really looked at their cause besides it's "save the whales", and they probably say buy only organic food, so they're probably equally ill-informed about the whales thing as well.
They are stupid.
I haven't really looked at their cause besides it's "save the whales", and they probably say buy only organic food, so they're probably equally ill-informed about the whales thing as well.
gojackets
New member
Re: Whale Wars
The Minkie Whales they kill aren't the endangered ones. They kill Fin whales also which are endangered. They said on tonights episode that they basically make a million dollars per fin whale killed.
As far as the number of whales killed. They have said on the show several times that the Japs have a 90,000 whale quota. I'm guessing they don't get there and i'm sure they fudge the numbers since they are not regulated at all--to further their "research" cause.
I'm guessing hunting Minkes is probably not illegal in non-protected waters. The problem is that the Japs are hunting them in a whale preserve.
The Minkie Whales they kill aren't the endangered ones. They kill Fin whales also which are endangered. They said on tonights episode that they basically make a million dollars per fin whale killed.
As far as the number of whales killed. They have said on the show several times that the Japs have a 90,000 whale quota. I'm guessing they don't get there and i'm sure they fudge the numbers since they are not regulated at all--to further their "research" cause.
I'm guessing hunting Minkes is probably not illegal in non-protected waters. The problem is that the Japs are hunting them in a whale preserve.
XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: Whale Wars
If that were a good reason for wanting someone dead, about the people on this board might as well start marching themselves into their coffins.
If that were a good reason for wanting someone dead, about the people on this board might as well start marching themselves into their coffins.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
gojackets
New member
Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: Whale Wars
If by research they're looking into "how tasty whale tastes" or "how can we make Japanese people eat whale again" or "how can we kill as many whales as inhumanly as possible," then yes it's research.
If by research they're looking into "how tasty whale tastes" or "how can we make Japanese people eat whale again" or "how can we kill as many whales as inhumanly as possible," then yes it's research.
Dirty
#BanBiddy
Re: Whale Wars
If the crew of the Steve Irwin wore referee shirts, who would you cheer for?
If the crew of the Steve Irwin wore referee shirts, who would you cheer for?
Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: Whale Wars
How could I root against her?
How could I root against her?
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Whale Wars
If her last name was Hochuli?
How could I root against her?
Re: Whale Wars
I agree that "can" and "should" are two very different things. But the Japanese have their own gods and other beliefs and so I am not sure how this argument even applies to them.
I agree that "can" and "should" are two very different things. But the Japanese have their own gods and other beliefs and so I am not sure how this argument even applies to them.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Whale Wars
What I meant with the > was that he should be helping starving people with the millions he is spending on saving whales. A human life is more important that a whale's.
It was funny how on last week's episode, they had no idea how to deal with the Jap's new tactics. I'd send out the small boats and have them run interference on the kills ships that are persuing the whales or have them try and screw up the transfer process. Try and get some acid right on the dead whale while they are transferring it. Or why not use the helicopter to drop the acid onto the ship's decks? You'd have to get pretty low, but that would work as well. Suck it up and adapt. Geez.
What I meant with the > was that he should be helping starving people with the millions he is spending on saving whales. A human life is more important that a whale's.
It was funny how on last week's episode, they had no idea how to deal with the Jap's new tactics. I'd send out the small boats and have them run interference on the kills ships that are persuing the whales or have them try and screw up the transfer process. Try and get some acid right on the dead whale while they are transferring it. Or why not use the helicopter to drop the acid onto the ship's decks? You'd have to get pretty low, but that would work as well. Suck it up and adapt. Geez.
Terrierbyassociation
Fight Cancer, Wherever You Find It
Re: Whale Wars
The Japanese do whatever they want. When it comes to whaling, they ignore their own religious tenets.
Shintoism is a religion with respect for nature. Buddhism is a religion with respect for life.
So let's not bring God into this. The Japanese aren't following God on this one. It's not their religious belief. It's the same cultural ego that spurns them forward that their culture is the best culture and the right culture and they should do whatever they want despite what international law says.
Whatever the rest of the world says about us in Iraq for international law violations, Europe sticks their finger in the air to overfish and break international law that way, and Japan does the same with whaling.
It's just annoying because they're such hypocrites. Apparently them breaking international law is A-OK.
The Japanese do whatever they want. When it comes to whaling, they ignore their own religious tenets.
Shintoism is a religion with respect for nature. Buddhism is a religion with respect for life.
So let's not bring God into this. The Japanese aren't following God on this one. It's not their religious belief. It's the same cultural ego that spurns them forward that their culture is the best culture and the right culture and they should do whatever they want despite what international law says.
Whatever the rest of the world says about us in Iraq for international law violations, Europe sticks their finger in the air to overfish and break international law that way, and Japan does the same with whaling.
It's just annoying because they're such hypocrites. Apparently them breaking international law is A-OK.
Re: Whale Wars
Even assuming that there is a way to quantify whose life is worth more, by your logic nobody should ever give to any charity that did anything but save starving children. We should not fund any arts or culture, no animal rescue, boy scouts/girl scouts, no wilderness preservation, etc.
I was thinking the same thing about the helicopter. There must be some agreement that they cannot use it for anything other than observation.
It also seems that they have self-imposed a rule that they must hand throw the acid. Otherwise why not some sort of launcher to increase the range and accuracy?
They are trying to adapt. They are also trying not to cause injury to themselves and the whalers. It's easy to criticize from our living rooms. What would you have them do?
Even assuming that there is a way to quantify whose life is worth more, by your logic nobody should ever give to any charity that did anything but save starving children. We should not fund any arts or culture, no animal rescue, boy scouts/girl scouts, no wilderness preservation, etc.
I was thinking the same thing about the helicopter. There must be some agreement that they cannot use it for anything other than observation.
It also seems that they have self-imposed a rule that they must hand throw the acid. Otherwise why not some sort of launcher to increase the range and accuracy?
They are trying to adapt. They are also trying not to cause injury to themselves and the whalers. It's easy to criticize from our living rooms. What would you have them do?
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Whale Wars
In the US you're not allowed to throw anything out of an aircraft if it can cause damage to persons or property. There may be a similar international regulation in place...
Foxton
Banned
Re: Whale Wars
Religion isn't a big part of day to day life in Japan today. Rituals are observed but it's not the same as the modern Abrahamic religions for impact on day to day life.