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Welcome folks, to the Biden administration!

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Kepler said:
Data spills do happen. There are probably several billion classified documents in the DC area alone. It's good that they responded according to process. That's what you do: self-report, comply with process, and take the hit.

The atrocity of Dump wasn't the data spill, it was them stonewalling and lying. That type of action would get a regular person a hefty fine and possibly even jail time.
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100% correct.
 
Swansong said:
Is it a big deal? This strikes me as something that happens with literally every Presidential transition. What made Trump's situation an issue was the volume, the level of classification of the documents taken, the obstruction and the enormous and real security breaches.

I would bet that every single President has at least some incorrectly-taken documents, and that many of them are returned following the process Biden is using.
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It was also that the Trump people skirted around the correct process for doing this at the end of his administration. There are volumes of (at the time boring) news stories about all previous administrations of both parties gathering all of their documents into one large spot (like HW's former bowling alley) so that the proper people can review what goes where before some docs stay in DC and other go to their respective libraries. The Trump people half-assed it and just threw stuff together; Biden and Obama did it properly; it's possible in that process that the reviewing people even missed a few things, out of the thousands upon thousands they process. The Biden people years later noticed and immediately notified the proper people; the Trump people continued to hold what they stole even after the folks at the Archive noticed, continually refused to return it, then purposely returned only part. The situations are day and night.
 
psych said:
Whoever sat on this information for a while figured now was the time to reveal it.
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Or, the lease is up and these documents were found when they were closing the office up and moving sh** to Hoffman Estates to be digitized for the Obama library?

*Edit* Also, the National Archives weren't looking for these documents. The Biden team self-reported themselves.
 
aparch said:
Or, the lease is up and these documents were found when they were closing the office up and moving sh** to Hoffman Estates to be digitized for the Obama library?

*Edit* Also, the National Archives weren't looking for these documents. The Biden team self-reported themselves.
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Yep. And the optics still suck. Why? Cause Orange Fucktard's issue put it on everybody's mind. I am convinced at this point that Republicans purposely do everything wrong and fucked up so it's in the news just so they can whine about Democrats doing anything similar even though it's hypocritical and false equivalence.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
So garland has already appointed special council.
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Appointed a special counsel for Biden when Biden did nothing wrong and still hasn't indicted the criminal that occupied the White House for (4) years, and has been out for over (2) years. Sounds about right.
 
It was the right thing to do. And he appointed a former Trump administration person.

They'll spend 9 months "investigating", probably find a handful of other boxes, probably find that there was nothing of actual security value, and release a report. The Right Wing jerkofosphere will either scream about the deep state when it's released, or just ignore it altogether because they've moved on to some other stupid thing to bleat about.
 
Handyman said:
And the truth is, it is a big deal. Not the same deal as what Trump did in any way, but it still is not good and they're is no way to deny that.

Why is this happening? How is it this day to misplace classified docs?
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Cause it's not this day, it's a day from who knows how many years ago?

And who moved these documents there? Joe himself? His COS or someone else who worked for him as VP and carted these docs over to his new work place? And how seriously classified are these docs, are they top secret, or are they like the "classified" material contained in butter emails.emails?

In any event, once discovered, they handled them in the manner that such situations are supposed to be handled. No whining about " but they're mine!!!", or, " I declassified them just by taking them from the White House." No obstructing about returning them, no delay in doing so, no ignoring subpoenas for them, or suing to keep them.

Unless there's evidence Joe stuffed them down his pants and walked out of the WH with them, this is a big nothingburger for everyone who isn't a MAGA fucktard.
 
Kepler said:
Data spills do happen. There are probably several billion classified documents in the DC area alone. It's good that they responded according to process. That's what you do: self-report, comply with process, and take the hit.

The atrocity of Dump wasn't the data spill, it was them stonewalling and lying. That type of action would get a regular person a hefty fine and possibly even jail time.
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Oh of course, that is why the equivocation is ridiculous. Biden is following procedure Trump is friggin trying to get it all back!

I still don't line it though. I get it happens, but it still is disconcerting.
 
I'd guess a lot of classified documents aren't really all that important. I mean we have things decade's old still classified that are not national security risks.

So, id be more interested in if the document was actually important. I assume at least some of them are.
 
I don't want to dismiss this as "they were probably not actually classified" because that's what the Trumpists claimed when that story broke. It was irrelevant then as it is now.

I think Frenchy likely nailed it. Of the tens of thousands of pages of documents sifted through in 2017 when Biden left office, some were erroneously sent with him. He learned of it and followed procedure for notification and return.
 
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