WCHA First Round - Minnesota Hosts UAA (Let's call it the vengeance series)

[uaafanblog]

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I think the Gophers should really seize this opportunity and really work on things to get ready for next week's opponent.

Maybe even just send out 4 guys a few times to work on their penalty kills and stuff like that.

Yes!! Joe Miller should get double shifts.

 

[ski]

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I can't tell if you are joking or not..?

 

[Hal9K]

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Or not. Below is an attached note in the emailed weekly release from UAA ...

I get FS North on cable so not worried about GCI ch 1.

 

[Happy]

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Low enough to raise the titanic but that's still 3 feet above Happy.

Dead deer rapists and sugar beet farmers hate me. I do excellent work.

 

[Tiggsy]

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Dead deer rapists and sugar beet farmers hate me. I do excellent work.

I am impressed.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Why some MN hockey fans berate Scheid and Docken for going to AK?

cross cheque is a Halos fan and no one else mocked it.

 

[vizoroo]

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Seawolves beating the gophs 2 years in a row in the playoffs would be simply delicious.

 

[HarleyMC]

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Why some MN hockey fans berate Scheid and Docken for going to AK? Both are sound players. UAA need more MN kids like these 2 IMO.

The only thing consistent at UAA since joining the WCHA is staying under .500 EVERY year. To me that speak volumes, not regarding the relative accessibility of recruiting pools in surrounding Canadian leagues, but about the AD and coaching staff at UAA. This was one of the worst season's in Shyiak's seven year tenure as coach. Granted the team is young, but rebuilding how? UAA needs to get serious about its leadership or, with the occasional exception of players like Curtis Glencross, it will continue to be a stop for promising young players to lose their momentum and vision.

 

[uaafanblog]

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The only thing consistent at UAA since joining the WCHA is staying under .500 EVERY year. To me that speak volumes, not regarding the relative accessibility of recruiting pools in surrounding Canadian leagues, but about the AD and coaching staff at UAA. This was one of the worst season's in Shyiak's seven year tenure as coach. Granted the team is young, but rebuilding how? UAA needs to get serious about its leadership or, with the occasional exception of players like Curtis Glencross, it will continue to be a stop for promising young players to lose their momentum and vision.

Lovely analysis. And by lovely, of course I mean as intellectually lazy as analysis can get. All four UAA coaches have relatively the same winning percentages. The factors that contribute to UAA's overall record are more complex. So um ... stick to analyzing something else.

 

[HarleyMC]

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Lovely analysis. And by lovely, of course I mean as intellectually lazy as analysis can get. All four UAA coaches have relatively the same winning percentages. The factors that contribute to UAA's overall record are more complex. So um ... stick to analyzing something else.

Your lame attempt at sarcasm, with nothing substantive or intelligent to add, is the only thing I see as "kee kiet". Classy scholarship...and you write a blog for UAA? Christiansen was a decent UAA coach as D1 Independent with an above .500 record every season (his '92 team was outstanding).

Then UAA enters the WCHA and proceeds to do an under .500 belly flop for 19 years in row! Now tell me what the problem is, sparky?

UAA leadership needs to decide if they want to realistically compete in the WCHA or continue with their infamous "doormat" status. I would not recommend any player go to UAA for men's hockey until the AD and coaching staff at UAA get serious about resolving their perennial ineptitude.

 

[The Rube]

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Your lame attempt at sarcasm, with nothing substantive or intelligent to add, is the only thing I see as "kee kiet". Classy scholarship...and you write a blog for UAA? Christiansen was a decent UAA coach as D1 Independent with an above .500 record every season (his '92 team was outstanding).

Then UAA enters the WCHA and proceeds to do an under .500 belly flop for 19 years in row! Now tell me what the problem is, sparky?

UAA leadership needs to decide if they want to realistically compete in the WCHA or continue with their infamous "doormat" status. I would not recommend any player go to UAA for men's hockey until the AD and coaching staff at UAA get serious about resolving their perennial ineptitude.

I will somewhat disagree. UAA is a team where they can say: do you want to be a first line star on a crappy team, or a fourth line grinder on a team like MN/UND/MI/BC/BU? There's the rub.

 

[HarleyMC]

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I will somewhat disagree. UAA is a team where they can say: do you want to be a first line star on a crappy team, or a fourth line grinder on a team like MN/UND/MI/BC/BU? There's the rub.

Some very talented hockey players have passed through the UAA system who could have seen lots of ice time with more focused NCAA hockey D1 programs built on visionary leadership (e.g. MTU). What you've done here is referenced one of the bivariate correlations which simply proves my point. UAA upgraded their conference status to the WCHA in 1993, but has failed to upgrade their leadership approach and strategy to win (or at least .500) in the WCHA for 19 years. That's an unjustifiable and pathetic program record. This type of consistent perennial failure starts at the top, not with the players.

 

[uaafanblog]

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Your lame attempt at sarcasm, with nothing substantive or intelligent to add, is the only thing I see as "kee kiet".

I have a long history of discussing the complex set of geographic, institutional and operational challenges that have long contributed to UAA's status at the bottom of the WCHA.

Classy scholarship...and you write a blog for UAA?

No again. I write a blog for UAA fans. It's about UAA hockey. It's called the UAA Hockey Fan blog. Lots of the above noted discussions have occurred there over the years. So um ... really the last thing needed is to attempt to address some drive-by critique from someone who's first assertions get no deeper than the shallow end of the pool.

Now tell me what the problem is, sparky?

No.

UAA leadership needs to decide if they want to realistically compete in the WCHA or continue with their infamous "doormat" status.

Yeah um .... one of the many contributing factors fixes itself after next season; the current and future WCHA are quite different animals. Another subject on which I've expressed myself at length both here and on my blog.

I would not recommend any player go to UAA for men's hockey until the AD and coaching staff at UAA get serious about resolving their perennial ineptitude.

Best of luck in your quest. I'm sure you'll manage to keep lots of fine players from attending UAA with your excellent posts here.

 

[HarleyMC]

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I have a long history of discussing the complex set of geographic, institutional and operational challenges that have long contributed to UAA's status at the bottom of the WCHA.

Operational challenges...that's funny. Institutional challenges? Geographic challenges? That's total BS blogman and you know it. These were not covariates when UAA was NCAA D1 Independent.

No again. I write a blog for UAA fans. It's about UAA hockey. It's called the UAA Hockey Fan blog. Lots of the above noted discussions have occurred there over the years. So um ... really the last thing needed is to attempt to address some drive-by critique from someone who's first assertions get no deeper than the shallow end of the pool.

No.

Ok blogman.

Yeah um .... one of the many contributing factors fixes itself after next season; the current and future WCHA are quite different animals. Another subject on which I've expressed myself at length both here and on my blog.

I suspect the UAA outcome in the new, downgraded WCHA will be roughly the same until the leadership is changed for the better. Write it down.

Best of luck in your quest. I'm sure you'll manage to keep lots of fine players from attending UAA with your excellent posts here.

FYI, there's a difference between not recommending and a "quest". I wouldn't expect you to know that though.

 

[The Rube]

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Some very talented hockey players have passed through the UAA system who could have seen lots of ice time with more focused NCAA hockey D1 programs built on visionary leadership (e.g. MTU). What you've done here is referenced one of the bivariate correlations which simply proves my point. UAA upgraded their conference status to the WCHA in 1993, but has failed to upgrade their leadership approach and strategy to win (or at least .500) in the WCHA for 19 years. That's an unjustifiable and pathetic program record. This type of consistent perennial failure starts at the top, not with the players.

Wow.You are nuts. Totally missed the point.

 

[HarleyMC]

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Wow.You are nuts. Totally missed the point.

No, you totally missed the initial point...leadership. So UAA should stay crappy to give players a chance to play on the first line? You're an idiot.

 

[uaafanblog]

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No, you totally missed the initial point...leadership. So UAA should stay crappy to give players a chance to play on the first line? You're an idiot.

Your subjective gauge of what crappy is, is wholly influenced by it's relative nature. It's likely a product of being a fan of a megalithic program. Your experiences as a fan (and/or whatever it is you think you are) of it are inadequate with regard to the subject.

 

[Stauber1]

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Now there's the Harley none of us have missed this season.

 

[HarleyMC]

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Your subjective gauge of what crappy is, is wholly influenced by it's relative nature. It's likely a product of being a fan of a megalithic program. Your experiences as a fan (and/or whatever it is you think you are) of it are inadequate with regard to the subject.

Your best shot at trying to write something intelligent and you still soiled yourself.

BTW "crappy" was not my term, it was used by a drunken poster who attempted to construct a interpretable post...try to follow along. Personally, I would use a stronger pejorative term to describe UAA's abysmal train wreck of a hockey program. FYI, anyone with a heartbeat would concur that UAA's 19 years of documented below .500 failure in the WCHA is "objective", not subjective. You're the one making the lame, but entertaining excuses for this colossal disaster.

UAA has: 1) access to a large recruiting pool of Canadian Juniors, USHL and other recruiting markets exists, 2) showed consistent success as a D1 Independent, 3) a reasonably strong fan base, and 4) more than adequate hockey facilities. Given these factors exist, their consistent dismal record is generally a failure of the leadership to adapt to the unique challenges and forecast investment in the program.

Just think...next year UAA will celebrate two full decades of total incompetence! You could run a special edition blogman! Of course, when the new, downgraded WCHA begins this will all come to an unfortunate end. It's a good thing Sullivan has lots of space for future banners.

 

[HarleyMC]

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Now there's the Harley none of us have missed this season.

"none of us"? So you're a representative of the "I don't understand big words" contingent? You even fail at being a smart***.