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WCHA 21-22 Season

pgb-ohio said:
So let's say a new reporter comes along and refers to "Minnesota State, St. Cloud." It's a dignified phrase. What's the problem? Simple. The Huskies didn't choose that moniker, and no professional media outlet has a right to force it on them.
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Then let's say that same reporter refers to them as "St Cloud" instead of St Cloud State: are fans of the Huskies going be upset by it and feel 'disrespected'?

First, I doubt it. Second, if they did, I'd have the same "get over yourselves" reaction.
 
pgb-ohio said:
Looks like USCHO got it right. Good for USCHO.

What many of the comments are missing is that broadcasters and media have an obligation to use the name(s) the schools choose for themselves. As a matter of professionalism. Again, I'm glad USCHO gets it.

You brought up the three schools in the Minnesota State system, so let's work with that. If I get some detail of this wrong, I'll be happy to be corrected. But here's the story as I understand it. The school based in Mankato, MN specifically wanted to be known as Minnesota State, Mankato. As is their right. And the Mavericks are widely known as such. But the schools based in St. Cloud, MN & Bemidji, MN wanted no part of having Minnesota State as part of their sports identity. Their reasons don't matter; they shouldn't have to justify their decision. And in any event, St. Cloud State & Bemidji State work just fine.

So let's say a new reporter comes along and refers to "Minnesota State, St. Cloud." It's a dignified phrase. What's the problem? Simple. The Huskies didn't choose that moniker, and no professional media outlet has a right to force it on them.

I won't risk a joke this time. (Embarrassed Emoticon Here)
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Okay, look, it seems at least possible to me that if we actually were acquainted in real life that we could be cordial, possibly affable and all of the other things that pass in the modern world for "friendly". When you post about hockey I appreciate your position as an Ohio State fan.

But when your posting moves outside of the glass I am put off by your tone and I am not amused. I do not need you to tell me whether or not USCHO gets it.

Get over yourself.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
I actually liked your pun and you can bring up the "meat-chicken"/"yuckeye" rivalry anytime you wish. And don't hold it against me if as an outsider I root for mutual destruction between yuse two. :-)
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I've always thought your "yuckeyes" reference was clearly good-natured and kind of funny. Normal group dynamic; some of us are on similar wavelengths, others not so much.

Offsides Guy said:
No need to apologize! Your post was very relevant to the “Ohio” vs “Ohio State” topic. And I was actually also thinking that some might use “Ohio” just to get under OSU fans/teams skins. It reminds me of when pro football players say where they went to college by saying, for example, “THE Miami University” as a way of making fun of OSU players always saying THE Ohio State. I see this a lot while watching pro football.
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Appreciate this a lot; especially your willingness to see things from the other guy's point of view.

And you give me an opportunity to agree that players and fans aren't held to the professional obligations that apply to broadcasters & journalists. Mind you the classy choice is always a good option. (winking emoticon) But of course there's a place for banter.
 
ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Okay, look, it seems at least possible to me that if we actually were acquainted in real life that we could be cordial, possibly affable and all of the other things that pass in the modern world for "friendly". When you post about hockey I appreciate your position as an Ohio State fan.

But when your posting moves outside of the glass I am put off by your tone and I am not amused. I do not need you to tell me whether or not USCHO gets it.

Get over yourself.
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I can understand a desire to stick with hockey. It's a little more challenging for those of us who follow the Women's game in that there's no separate Cafe. This did turn into a Cafe-type conversation.

So you're going to trip over posts you dislike; everyone on the board experiences that. Familiar quote: You can't please all of the people all of the time.
 
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robertearle said:
Then let's say that same reporter refers to them as "St Cloud" instead of St Cloud State: are fans of the Huskies going be upset by it and feel 'disrespected'?
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I'm not close enough to St. Cloud to know for sure, but my guess is that they would not be upset.

There's no history there. The fact that it's on ARM's USCHO list probably has more do to do with USCHO wanting a consistent style sheet, as opposed to any SCSU objection. In contrast, SCSU would be upset by "Minnesota State, St.Cloud," because there is a history. Or at least their senior administrators & marketing people would be upset. (winking emoticon)

Context indeed. It seems to me that you invoke context when it suits you, and try to push it under the rug when it doesn't suit. "Confusion in the sports marketplace" isn't only thing that qualifies as context. History matters too.

First, I doubt it. Second, if they did, I'd have the same "get over yourselves" reaction.
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At least using the plural makes the criticism coherent. When a poster stands up for their school or their coach, it's not because the individual thinks he or she is individually brilliant. It's standing up for the team. Sometimes loyalty to a team or fan base is warranted; sometimes not. That's case-by-case. But it has nothing to do with individual self-promotion.
 
robertearle said:
Then let's say that same reporter refers to them as "St Cloud" instead of St Cloud State: are fans of the Huskies going be upset by it and feel 'disrespected'?

First, I doubt it. Second, if they did, I'd have the same "get over yourselves" reaction.
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This is a joke, right?
 
Lindsay said:
Hill I will die on: people here can call Ohio State whatever they want. Friend did a nice job but the right thing to do from a production standpoint is to educate her that the school is referred to as Ohio State.
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So she really just referred to OSU as Ohio during the broadcast? Either it was intentionally done as a cut or she simply is not that smart. I'd love to hear her side of the story. At any rate, you are 100% correct.
 
Meanwhile, back to WCHA vs ECAC matters...The "Trembling Chihuahua's" take on "Crimson and Clover" and the "Sinners" take on the "Fighting Nurses". Good natured disrespect intended.

Respect:

The University of Minnesota Duluth (UMD) needs to step it against Harvard. UMD was not great against Minnesota State Mankato University (MSMU) in the WCHA tournament and they did not play well against the University of Minnesota Twin Cities (UMTC) in the semi-final. They need to step up their game and I think they will.

The University of Wisconsin at Madison (UW) has been working through issues with a depleted lineup and not being able to put the puck in the net. Clarkson University (not to be confused with Clarkson College) is also going through a rough patch. Go Wisconsin?
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
UMD and Wisconsin advance vanquishing 2 ECAC opponents. Wisconsin, to me did not look very good in their game. UMD played very well.
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Shutting down UMD's first line is obviously extremely difficult, but if somehow achieved the odds of Minnesota advancing in the tournament are very much in their favor. It will be interesting to see what strategies Coach Frost will employ, including last change line matchups and which D to have out there, to hopefully limit their effectiveness.
 
Mixed bag so far for the WCHA. Minnesota and Wisconsin crapped the bed. Good job by UMD.

Ohio State has definitely outplayed Quinnipiac but due to some goaltending lapses and a boneheaded play by Rosenthal (I think it was her) OSU gave up the tying goal. Bonus hockey coming up.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Mixed bag so far for the WCHA. Minnesota and Wisconsin crapped the bed. Good job by UMD.

Ohio State has definitely outplayed Quinnipiac but due to some goaltending lapses and a boneheaded play by Rosenthal (I think it was her) OSU gave up the tying goal. Bonus hockey coming up.
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It was. Fittingly, the OSU late attempt was not a goal, because the officials couldn't see the puck under the goalie pads. Sound familiar?
 
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