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WCHA 21-22 Season

ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Okay, here's one that would work: Calculate in decimal the proportion of points won against each of the other teams in the conference for games played and then total them. Undefeated, untied season would be 7. It would not matter if you played one game or four against any opponent, the impact of the season series against each opponent would be equal to the impact of the season series for every opponent.
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That is the current method used in the Pairwise to determine the winner of the 'Common Opponents' component. They changed to that 'sum of percents' method from an overall winning percent in 2013 (and it cost Wisconsin a trip to the tournament, in favor of North Dakota).

I don't really see how one is better than the other. I guess that most of the time, they'll turn out the same, but - as per the example - every now and then, they won't.

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Adding, your idea also assumes that there will be at least one game between each pair of teams. What happens if, for example, the other series between Wisconsin and St Thomas also gets cancelled: does Wisconsin get zero because there was no game played?
 
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I agree it won't work unless every team plays every other team at least once. That was just off the top of my head and I will try harder. I am frustrated by the conference deciding the use again this year the standings method which last year ranked UMD third and Minnesota fourth. As I am sure you recall Minnesota had played mostly Wisconsin and Ohio State, mostly unsuccessfully at that, while UMD fattened up on the dregs of the conference and lost both games played head to head against Minnesota. This so called third place in the conference no doubt played a large role in UMD being selected for the NCAA tournament while Minnesota was left out.
 
Email just now saying one of the UW vs St Thomas games will be made up on Monday Jan 31, making for a long weekend after UW games at St Cloud on Friday and Saturday, 28th and 29th.
 
robertearle said:
That is the current method used in the Pairwise to determine the winner of the 'Common Opponents' component. They changed to that 'sum of percents' method from an overall winning percent in 2013 (and it cost Wisconsin a trip to the tournament, in favor of North Dakota).

I don't really see how one is better than the other. I guess that most of the time, they'll turn out the same, but - as per the example - every now and then, they won't.
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The records being compared are significantly different and the methods of comparison are significantly different when viewed in that perspective.

The Pairwise comparison is for teams that mostly don't play each other and mostly have a small number of games against common opponents.

Within the conference they usually have all played each other (you recently note that even the Wisconsin v. Saint Thomas cipher is being erased) and have all played a very large number of games against common opponents, the other members of the conference.

Most of the times they will turn out the same but the method I have proposed seems at least to me to more equitable, by which I mean to say that UMD won't get recognized as third best for beating Saint Cloud, Bemidji and Mankato while Minnesota is penalized and relegated to fourth for being third best of the Wisconsin, Ohio State, Minnesota triumvirate.
 
Heading in to this weekends play, Hughes and Giguere of UMD are #1 and #2 in the country in points per game.
 
Interesting thing about Ohio State and Duluth, both teams are missing their first-string goalies, both off to the Olympics.

So, of course, it's 0-0 after one period.
 
Bulldogs trailing 3 - 1 with 5 minutes left. Now a final. Split at Ohio St. See how the Gophers fare now.
 
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Dogfight in Minneapolis. 3 - 2 Minnesota after 1 period. Wisconsin with the first goal, but looks like the Gophers came to play today. Lot's of game left!
 
I am happy to see that the WCHA is doing everything possible to get all the previously scheduled games played. It is a credit to them, and to the schools involved that it looks like we will see a full season of games played. I love seeing the new dynamics taking place with an eight team conference again. Maura Crowell at Duluth has been an outstanding addition to the our league. I feel the chippiness and gooning that some teams thrived on in the past has decreased noticeably. I am excited by the parity at the top of the league, and have genuine excitement for remainder of the season. Let the best team win it all!
 
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Steamboat said:
I am happy to see that the WCHA is doing everything possible to get all the previously scheduled games played.
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They have not done everything possible. There was a lot of wasted opportunity the first few weeks in January where more could have been done instead of nothing.

Are we in for more shocking results this week?

UMTC at tOSU. Guessing split.
UMM at UMD. UMS sweeps.
WI at St. C and St. T. WI gets at least 1 win.
St. T at BSU. BSU gets more pts but not all.
 
Timothy A said:
They have not done everything possible. There was a lot of wasted opportunity the first few weeks in January where more could have been done instead of nothing.

Are we in for more shocking results this week?

UMTC at tOSU. Guessing split.
UMM at UMD. UMS sweeps.
WI at St. C and St. T. WI gets at least 1 win.
St. T at BSU. BSU gets more pts but not all.
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I'm joining you out on that limb. Wisconsin will not come out of these games empty handed!
 
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