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WCHA 2017-18 Season

Re: WCHA 2017-18 Season

ARM said:
If there was an award for best forecheck (or best backcheck, for that matter), then the Badgers would win that handily. Wisconsin is where it is because it plays the best team game. Which would argue for Coach of the Year, but how many of those awards does Johnson really need?
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How many COTY has MJ won? He did do a lot this year with a lot of new faces on the team, but Muzzy is deserving.
 
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ARM said:
He's won 7. I'm not saying that he is not deserving, but at a certain point, we get it -- the guy can coach.
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Um yeah, this year Muzzy deservedly gets the nod, next year it will be Frosty The Abominable Gopher vs Mr. Miracle.
 
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Still Eeyore said:
Most Gopher fans I talk to are pretty bemused by this, too.
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I'm happy for Baldwin but this award always leaves me with more questions than answers. I guess the fact it was voted on by the coaches says it has more value than those selected by the media or fans. I'm not even sure I agree on the 4 finalists but congrats to all of them & Syd particularly.

WCHA Vice President and Women’s League Commissioner Katie Million:
Each of the four candidates had remarkable seasons, but Sydney’s all-around contributions were truly special. To be among the nation’s leading scorers on defense, while also topping the country in blocked shots, being a part of both special teams units and serving as a co-captain for an NCAA tournament team, is worthy of every accolade in the book. Congratulations, Sydney!
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ne7minder said:
I guess the fact it was voted on by the coaches says it has more value than those selected by the media or fans.
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There isn't really any reason to give greater credence to the selections of the coaches. They don't have the time to watch many games aside from their own and the tape they are sent by the league office for scouting their next opponent, and they are rarely watching it with the goal of being able to fill out their ballots.

In the end, awards are going to be handed out based upon published data and anecdotes passed around, no matter who is doing the voting. In most professional sports, the quality of the published data has improved dramatically over the past couple of decades. That's less true in women's college hockey.
 
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Timothy A said:
What?! A stinking rodent wins?! You've got to be kidding me. Of all the low down good for nothing stupid idiotic choices..... ;)
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Are we helpless observers, buffeted by the winds of oppression, unable to battle injustice and make wrongs right? No, no we are not.

I propose an unofficial USCHO Seventeen Posters WCHA Player of the Year Award.

My vote is Emma Maltais of The Ohio State University.
 
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Leather helmet said:
Are we helpless observers, buffeted by the winds of oppression, unable to battle injustice and make wrongs right? No, no we are not.

I propose an unofficial USCHO Seventeen Posters WCHA Player of the Year Award.

My vote is Emma Maltais of The Ohio State University.
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If I am so honored as to be a part of the 17 Posters group, I vote for Campbell, her numbers, though admittedly on a great defensive team, are just so much better than anyone else's in the WCHA it's hard to ignore them.
 
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shelfit said:
Last weekend the 7th place team beat the 2nd place team in their quarter-finals because #7 put one good weekend together after not putting a good regular season together. Do we really want a team like that getting lucky in one weekend and knocking off a top team?! I don't think so. The top teams should be rewarded for their efforts all season long. In this example, they should only let 6 of 9 teams into the playoffs and give #1 and #2 a bye into the semi-finals and go from there.
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If OSU got a first round bye and just lost to Minnesota, instead of picking up two more wins against #7 seed Mankato, I'm not sure OSU would be playing next week-end.
 
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EastFan1 said:
If OSU got a first round bye and just lost to Minnesota, instead of picking up two more wins against #7 seed Mankato, I'm not sure OSU would be playing next week-end.
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Two wins over Mankato probably made a difference in OSU's RPI that's indistinguishable from zero. They would have been in anyway.
 
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Still Eeyore said:
Most Gopher fans I talk to are pretty bemused by this, too.
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I'm staying out of the Gopher thread where there seems to be campaign by Gopher fans to move the Final Face-off to Madison.......

.........I will say when I saw the four finalists I kind of expected Baldwin to win. But yes, I am bemused by it. Congrats to Sydney, though, and she does have a bucketful of skill and talent :)
 
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KTDC said:
I'm staying out of the Gopher thread where there seems to be campaign by Gopher fans to move the Final Face-off to Madison.......

.........I will say when I saw the four finalists I kind of expected Baldwin to win. But yes, I am bemused by it. Congrats to Sydney, though, and she does have a bucketful of skill and talent :)
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Add me to the bemused group, but the mere thought of her not being back there on defense this year gives me the willies. I wrote weeks ago that I thought she was the Gophers most valuable player this year and I still think so. Congratulations Sydney!
 
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Still Eeyore said:
Two wins over Mankato probably made a difference in OSU's RPI that's indistinguishable from zero. They would have been in anyway.
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I'm no math wizard, but Cornell had a SOS of 1 and OSU had a SOS of 10. As close as they are in winning percentage, if you drop OSU by two wins, I'm not sure you are correct.

Maybe TTT can help here.
 
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EastFan1 said:
I'm no math wizard, but Cornell had a SOS of 1 and OSU had a SOS of 10. As close as they are in winning percentage, if you drop OSU by two wins, I'm not sure you are correct.

Maybe TTT can help here.
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Just about the entire difference between Ohio State and Cornell in "QWB adjusted RPI" is Ohio's 'quality win bonus'. Assuming the two games against Mankato did little one way or the other - yes, they are wins, but wins against a team with a win percentage on the low end of things - Ohio State beats Cornell on QWB. And that large difference in QWB wouldn't be affected by two games more-or-less against Mankato. Put it another way, sweeping Wisconsin in early Feb likely got/kept Ohio State in the NCAAs.

Remember, RPI has three components: won-loss, opponent's won-loss, and opponents-opponents won-loss. A win over Mankato raises your won-loss percent some, likely drops your "opponent's won-loss" some, and has little effect one way or another on "opponents-opponents", because by the end of the season Ohio's opponents-opponents are largely the same as Mankato's.

But yes, Grant might be able to run actual numbers.
 
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