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WCHA 2014-15: Semi-colons make things seem important

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That law will get passed. I know Kent (where Seattle plays), Everett, and Spokane spent good money building those teams arenas. Plus Tri-Cities is a big deal there (they fought hard to keep the team there).

Otherwise that solves the ECHL problem...
 
Seawolf Fan said:
The WHL is asking the Washington state legislature to pass legislation exempting the league from some labor laws.
If they don't get the legislation they seek they say the teams will have to abandon the state.

Edit: may not have said that correctly.
While Washington’s four teams in the Western Hockey League are investigated for child labor practices, the state Legislature is considering a league request to exempt amateur athletes from state labor laws.
In a hearing before the Washington state Senate’s Commerce and Labor Committee Wednesday, officials from the state’s WHL teams and the league office said the Seattle Thunderbirds, Spokane Chiefs, Tri-City Americans and Everett Silvertips might have to leave or shut down if state law isn’t changed to consider amateur athletes non-employees.

The state’s Labor and Industry department has been investigating all four teams since a complaint was filed in 2013 over working conditions for their players, who range in age from 16 to 20 years old.

“If the bill is not passed, it could negatively impact our ability to operate and would force us to move or not operate in the state,” Silvertips general manager Garry Davidson told the Senate committee.


2nd edit: Whose definition of "amateur athletes" ?
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If the WA four leave, you can bet Portland will leave as well.
 
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Well, six teams are now in the playoffs, and it's down to UAH, LSSU, and UAA to battle it out for the final two spots. UAA's schedule is just really hard, and I don't see them making it.

GFM
 
gfmorris said:
Well, six teams are now in the playoffs, and it's down to UAH, LSSU, and UAA to battle it out for the final two spots. UAA's schedule is just really hard, and I don't see them making it.

GFM
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I thought UAA would make it in but they have completely derailed. Some of the UAA posters here probably know better, but from the outside looking in it looks like there's more going on there than just a young team cutting its teeth.

Of course all this means they'll look like the 2011 Bruins on March 6-7.
 
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Playing with the pairwise predictor. If BGSU wins out the regular season and the first series of the playoffs, I have them in at 13. I have NMU the 4th team, assuming Bemidji loses a couple going forward, If Bemidji gets a split with Mankato and so does Tech, it knocks Mankato out of number 1 to no 2. I had Tech getting splits the next two weekends and still can finish third in the pairwise, depending on Miami, Omaha, Duluth, Denver results who I also had splitting..
I think you have to figure, other than Robert Morris, some team is going to get an autobid that is not in the top 15 now. Meaning 14 and 15 are not safe.
If St Cloud splits the rest of the way I have them out.

I think based on the way things went this weekend, that the final 5 will be very good.
 
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I think that I got everything in terms of the tiebreakers and their relevance: http://blog.wchaplayoffs.com/2015/02/22/2014-15-wcha-tiebreakers-and-their-relevance/ The UAA-LSSU and BSU-NMU-FSU sections are pretty long.

In short:

· McNaughton rides on next weekend
· BG is a virtual lock for third
· It'll be hard for FSU to pass Northern AND Bemidji
· Bemidji beats Northern
· UAH can't make 6th but it's pretty hard for them to miss the playoffs
· UAA can get to some decent spots if they tie LSSU, which means that they do well against BG.

GFM
 
gfmorris said:
I think that I got everything in terms of the tiebreakers and their relevance: http://blog.wchaplayoffs.com/2015/02/22/2014-15-wcha-tiebreakers-and-their-relevance/ The UAA-LSSU and BSU-NMU-FSU sections are pretty long.

In short:

· McNaughton rides on next weekend
· BG is a virtual lock for third
· It'll be hard for FSU to pass Northern AND Bemidji
· Bemidji beats Northern
· UAH can't make 6th but it's pretty hard for them to miss the playoffs
· UAA can get to some decent spots if they tie LSSU, which means that they do well against BG.

GFM
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Whoa there, Geof. A split between Kato and Tech would leave the Mc Naughton VERY much up in the air. Bemidji and NMU are both playing well
 
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purpleinnebraska said:
Whoa there, Geof. A split between Kato and Tech would leave the Mc Naughton VERY much up in the air. Bemidji and NMU are both playing well
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Yes, the least stable position is a split between the two teams that keeps them a point apart, but anything else makes the system less dynamic.

GFM
 
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In keeping with the title of this thread, in just five days...

; ; ; ; ; ;Michigan Tech Huskies @ Minnesota State Mavericks ; ; ; ; ; ;
 
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gfmorris said:
I would argue that the series of the season was Northern sweeping BG and keeping the McNaughton race down to two teams.

GFM
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Considering that BG still would have needed to sweep UAH for them to have a shot at the MacNaughton Cup, does that mean you have already conceded the 4 points in Ohio?
 
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John J. MacInnes said:
Considering that BG still would have needed to sweep UAH for them to have a shot at the MacNaughton Cup, does that mean you have already conceded the 4 points in Ohio?
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I've done the math, and yes. There's about a 6% shot that we take points and 2% that it's a win. Our only chance for points this season is probably on our home ice. I was hoping that there would be momentum from the Lake State series, especially considering how many players had the flu last weekend and are better now. Is Ferris better than Lake? Sure, but UAH had picked up a win in Big Rapids. This weekend was disappointing for us, because we could've put both Lake AND Ferris between us and missing the playoffs, and that would've been wonderful.

GFM
 
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gfmorris said:
I've done the math, and yes. There's about a 6% shot that we take points and 2% that it's a win. Our only chance for points this season is probably on our home ice. I was hoping that there would be momentum from the Lake State series, especially considering how many players had the flu last weekend and are better now. Is Ferris better than Lake? Sure, but UAH had picked up a win in Big Rapids. This weekend was disappointing for us, because we could've put both Lake AND Ferris between us and missing the playoffs, and that would've been wonderful.

GFM
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I'm not too worried about you guys missing the playoffs....UAA is 8 different colors of dog**** right now. You're going to run into a buzzsaw in Houghton or Mankato though, can't help you much there.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I'm not too worried about you guys missing the playoffs....UAA is 8 different colors of dog**** right now. You're going to run into a buzzsaw in Houghton or Mankato though, can't help you much there.
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Indeed. My goal for the boys is another crack at the apple. Win one and have fun.

Okay, so I've sent a bunch of tweets out on @wchaplayoffs, but I'll save you the skimming.

Based on the model (which I am thinking about tweaking), comparisons (all numbers in % if not stated):
· Tech wins the McNaughton 61-37, with 2% a tie. As noted, the ties get complicated. https://twitter.com/wchaplayoffs/status/569989147429089280 has the probabilities for this weekend.
· BGSU gets the #3 seed 100% of the time.
· Ferris passes Bemidji and Northern about 5.5% of the time.
· Bemidji is ahead of or equal with Northern 98.23% of the time.
· UAA passes UAH and LSSU into 7th about 2.5% of the time, and I'm surprised that it's that high. That said, the model favors home teams.

Let me know if you have another comparison to consider.

GFM
 
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gfmorris said:
Indeed. My goal for the boys is another crack at the apple. Win one and have fun.

Okay, so I've sent a bunch of tweets out on @wchaplayoffs, but I'll save you the skimming.

Based on the model (which I am thinking about tweaking), comparisons (all numbers in % if not stated):
· Tech wins the McNaughton 61-37, with 2% a tie. As noted, the ties get complicated. https://twitter.com/wchaplayoffs/status/569989147429089280 has the probabilities for this weekend.
· BGSU gets the #3 seed 100% of the time.
· Ferris passes Bemidji and Northern about 5.5% of the time.
· Bemidji is ahead of or equal with Northern 98.23% of the time.
· UAA passes UAH and LSSU into 7th about 2.5% of the time, and I'm surprised that it's that high. That said, the model favors home teams.

Let me know if you have another comparison to consider.

GFM
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Wow! That's a sweet rundown! How do you do that? Be an engineer?
 
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